modding: what does the job entail Options

[sadolakced acid]

what does the job of being a mod require you to do?

[*incoherent*]

helping out.
being nice.
not starting fights.
not really sure, mods should voice their opinions since non of us are mods besides in here.

[sadolakced acid]

i think it should be, for people staff:

close and move topics.

warn members not following rules.

[*incoherent*]

yeah, those are part of it as well.

[sadolakced acid]

yea, but i think those should be the only ones.

[KissMe2408]

yea, but i think those should be the only ones.

Yah, but i think there is much more to a mod then just closing and moving topics and warning members.
You need to have good judgement as a mod and also be helpful.
I mean when you close someone's topic you need to help them. Like sometimes they have a need for something or other, and if you just close it, then they are still stuck in the dark. As a mod you atleast need to pull up some similiar topics with answers, or pm them with extra help if they need it.
Mods are there to serve the community and make sure things don't get out of hand.
With that comes responsibility.
Mods also are entrusted with the entire community section, i think as a mod you should ATLEAST go into the forums you normally wouldn't go into, just to see if something needs to be moved or closed. If you normally don't go into anime or sports or something, just take 5 minutes to see if someone needs help, you know what i mean

[sadolakced acid]

oh sure, those are nice things for mods to do, but then again, any old member can do it.

i dont' think mods have mod powers so they can be the nice squad.

[*mzkandi*]

^Who ever said that? You dont have to be kiss ass nice to be mod. You say any old member can do it but just any old member cant become a mod. If that was the case, we'd give the job to anybody.

[*disco infiltrator*]

Yes, you can't be a troublemaker and someone who continuously has "beefs" with multiple members and be People staff. People staff is for those integrated with the Community with good People skills.

Anywho.
To get the gist of a Myspace/Xanga/LJ staffer:

Being a Myspace mod, I have to check the skin database (and if there's acceptances, I have to upload the images, check the code to make sure it's not jocked, resize screenshots if they're not the right size, etc., which can all be quite enough for one day depending on the number of acceptances), check if there is any scripts submitted to accept/reject, go through Myspace Help and see if there are any topics I can answer, close, move, etc., check through Myspace Showcase and do the same....and that's only the Myspace forums. I also have the Webmaster's Corner that I moderate. Plus, I'd also like some time to use Createblog for what I really love about it - the whole community. Not only the community forums, but just to interact. Then I have to check Backstage as well.

I can post on Design too, if you want, since I've been that as well as People.

[Retrogressive]

I've been looking around, how do you BECOME a mod? I know it's not easy, do people suggest you or (as I've heard) you fill out an entry form?
<sorry for being so niave I just got back to the forums a week ago>

[*disco infiltrator*]

You apply and hope you get chosen.

[demolished]

I think.
1. Don’t start being a total bitch and start calling names.
2. Friendly most of the time
3. Be Patient
4. Reply all the time until they know you're playing stupid games w/ them.
5. Generous
6. Don’t show grudges against someone who’s different. In other words, be more tolerance to others.

At least, I saw someone who seems to be like that.

[racoons > you]

I've been looking around, how do you BECOME a mod? I know it's not easy, do people suggest you or (as I've heard) you fill out an entry form?
<sorry for being so niave I just got back to the forums a week ago>

you cant at th emoment, you have to wait for an announcement... dont worry, you arent missing anything obvious

-- i agree that mods, as they are representing the members backstage in discussions about new forums, rules etc. do need to be involved with the community and talk to people to find out what is going on, and what the opinons are

if their job was solely to close/move/etc, then they shouldnt be called PEOPLE staff... something like 'tidying up staff' would be more appropriate

[sadolakced acid]

my point is you dont' need mod powers to be nice.

the only things a people staffer can do that i can't is move and close topics, and warn people.

the other stuff, being nice, etc. is all good and stuff, but you don't need mod powers to do that.

[*mipadi*]

I almost completely agree with Justin. In my mind, a moderator's job is to maintain order on the boards. Being responsible and mature is an important quality, although it is more of a quality than "something the job entails" (which I think of as duties). Being nice and friendly and welcoming is good, too, but I don't think it's the job of the moderators to make sure every new member is welcomed. The job of a moderator is to keep things from getting out of hand, which generally entails moving/locking topics, warning members, and generally making sure rules and guidelines are followed.

[technicolour]

I almost completely agree with Justin. In my mind, a moderator's job is to maintain order on the boards. Being responsible and mature is an important quality, although it is more of a quality than "something the job entails" (which I think of as duties). Being nice and friendly and welcoming is good, too, but I don't think it's the job of the moderators to make sure every new member is welcomed. The job of a moderator is to keep things from getting out of hand, which generally entails moving/locking topics, warning members, and generally making sure rules and guidelines are followed.

Amen.

I think that people put mods on a pedastool that's a bit too high.

-- i agree that mods, as they are representing the members backstage in discussions about new forums, rules etc. do need to be involved with the community and talk to people to find out what is going on, and what the opinons are

I feel there is a slight glitch though. If they're supposed to be representing the people, then why don't the people get to "elect" them? I mean, there was the thread saying who the people wanted as their mods and it was just there. Ugh, i'm making no sense.

Basically i'm saying is, why cant the people vote for who they want represented?

[I think I just got soo far off topic]

[Kenado]

^Because if just people in the community voted on who they wanted on staff it would just turn out to become a popularity contest, and it's not fair to those who have not so many votes get only like 5 when they really deserve the position while osmeone with like 16 shouldn't get promoted since they probably showed no way they can contribute.

[technicolour]

^ Yes..but we'd still be saying who we'd like to do the job.

So many other people deserve more than just being your "plain old member".

[*disco infiltrator*]

That was the point of that thread in the lounge, to say who you wanted..

We had one backstage for mods too. But, this is a topic for the hiring thread.

But really...being someone who interacts with the community is a mod duty. If you're a big bitch all the time, how are you supposed to represent the community in decisions? How are you going to expect people to listen to you when you set the rules? How are you going to expect people to look up to you and follow your example? I mean, you don't have to sugar-coat things and make everything seem peachy keen, but you can't be rude for no reason without provocation and you can't go around starting unnecessary fights. That is a requirement.

Of course you don't need mod powers to do that, but what do you think happens to the people who do? .... Generally, they get hired. You don't need mod powers to do a lot of things, but you have to do it to be a mod.

[sadolakced acid]

i propose two groups of mods.

one group wields the mod powers and it's more of the "bad cop". they're not really involved with many decisions- they're the deputys, officers, etc. they don't even need to be that active, as long as they don't abuse thier power.


the second group's job is to keep in touch with teh community, and is more of the "good cop". they would have no mod powers, but would be able to access backstage. they would make important decisions, like who to hire, and would help out newbies.

cus there are people who would do a really good job with the keeping order on the forum, but don't really connect with the members.

and there are people who would love to be able to help with discussions and decision making, but could care less about closing topics and such.

[*disco infiltrator*]

Well...that's what the feedback forum is for, is it not? Modding involves both jobs.

People still need a good attitude when closing/moving/whatnot. Members often PMed me back when I close a topic (well, when I was People Staff) with something along the lines of:

UHHHH BITCH Y DID U CLOSE MY TOPIC?!?!?!!??

Or something to that effect.
People need to be able to respond with tact and fairness.

[Spirited Away]

i propose two groups of mods.

did you have to call it "good cop, bad cop"? LOL.

Anyway, I think People staff is very capable of being both. If there are people who'd truly love to help with discussions for the sake of helping, the title of "staff" wouldn't/shouldn't improve their helpfulness, I think, so why should they get the job when another person is capable of both being nice and can lay down the rules when needed? I'm a little confused.

[sadolakced acid]

feedback forum is more for starting ideas, not making decisions on them...

the two groups of mods could form an upper and lower house, if wanted.

[*disco infiltrator*]

Edited last post.

[sadolakced acid]

i don't really see why the two should be linked...

it's asking mods to be the axe man and the PR rep at the same time...

[*disco infiltrator*]

Relate it to policemen.

They do the same, no? They have to keep the peoples' respect and still enforce the law. They know the people and interact with them, still punishing those who deserve it.

[Spirited Away]

i don't really see why the two should be linked...
it's asking mods to be the axe man and the PR rep at the same time...

and i don't see why they must be separated. i understand where you're coming from. you're saying that it's more efficient to place a person who's good at socializing in the position to socialize, and a person who's good at laying down the rules should work on laying down the rules. but why do that when cB can have a person who has more merit, thus more deserving, because he/she is good at doing both at the same time?

[sadolakced acid]

in policemen, aren't there the beat cops, whose job is to walk around and know the place, and aren't there the swat cops, whose job is to do a specific, more dangerous, less nice job?

and i don't see why they must be separated. i understand where you're coming from. you're saying that it's more efficient to place a person who's good at socializing in the position to socialize, and a person who's good at laying down the rules should work on laying down the rules. but why do that when cB can have a person who has more merit because he/she is good at doing both at the same time?

who says you can't have that person too?

don't have to completely seperate... you could have people in both groups.

but i think it'd be more efficent to have one person good at socializing, and one person good at the rules than one person good at both, simply because one person can only be online so much.

[*disco infiltrator*]

Well yea, there's the tough job guys, but I'm talking about your local cops. Your town doesn't have its own SWAT team, does it?

[sadolakced acid]

well, we have the cops we drive around in patrol cars and we only see when they pull us over, and then we have the cops to go to schools and talk and walk around the mall and help escort funerals...


some cops will, of course, do both. but there is some degree of seperation...

[*disco infiltrator*]

The cops that drive around in the cars are the cops that go to schools and do talks. They're the same people. They just separate when they do which.

And even when pulling someone over, they don't provocate the people into fighting, do they? No, they have to be respectful while still enforcing the law.

[Spirited Away]

who says you can't have that person too?
don't have to completely seperate... you could have people in both groups.
but i think it'd be more efficent to have one person good at socializing, and one person good at the rules than one person good at both, simply because one person can only be online so much.

Of course you can, but rememeber that the number of staff is limited. why give the job to two people when one can happily fufill it? as for the problem of inactivity, a person of "merit" would be one who is dedicated enough to be on as much as he/she can.

[sadolakced acid]

why should the number of staff be limited, exactly?

would it really hurt tohave 50 mods?

[*disco infiltrator*]

But why would you have 50 when you don't need to? Why can't we just appoint people who do both? Why is it so necessary to separate?

[Spirited Away]

*rubs imaginary beard*... Hmmmmmmmm. 50 mods...

[sadolakced acid]

But why would you have 50 when you don't need to? Why can't we just appoint people who do both? Why is it so necessary to separate?

you could reduce the number of cops in a city by forcing them all to work overtime...

look, i'm just trying to make the modding job a little less of a chore, as it seems like now, that way mods can enjoy cB a little more.

[*disco infiltrator*]

Usually people who actually dislike the job quit.

Those of us who stay don't really dislike it. There's just some aspects of things we don't like, but it's the same with any other thing. If we really didn't want to do it and it was a chore, we'd quit.

[sadolakced acid]

and some good people have quit over the times.

why have 12 people when you could have 24?

[*disco infiltrator*]

Why have 24 when you could have 12?

Hot damn this moves faaast.

[sadolakced acid]

because you're more likely to have someone online with 24.

[*disco infiltrator*]

Or you could just hire 12 people who vary with the times they're on.

[sadolakced acid]

but why bother?

[*disco infiltrator*]

Well let's see, it's 1 AM...

And I'm on.

We have people in school not on from 8-3 on weekdays, but then we have people in college who are on during the day.

We do have people who vary. Why have more just to cover EVERY SINGLE MOMENT of time? We don't need it. Everything gets covered, and if it doesn't, it's not cause of the times of the day that people are on.

[sadolakced acid]

why not have more?

what's it hurt, really?

i don't see that as hurting anything. if tehre are qualified candidates, why not?

[*disco infiltrator*]

1) What's it hurting not having more? Why does it have to change?
2) There aren't that many qualified cantidates, certainly not enough to double us all.
3) Did you read my earlier point about having to still be respectful/nice even when enforcing, with the PMs back and whatnot?

[sadolakced acid]

yea, i read that...

i'll take that into consideration... tommorrow. i have to go now. got stuff to do.

but i think anyone who meets the qualificationsn and is agreed would make a good mod should be modded.

cus really, inactive people staffers don't hurt anyone.

[*mzkandi*]

I mean, sure there will times when there arent as many mods online at certain times, but see there is thing called "having a life" and well not everyone can spend all their time on cB like its some alternative universe (something that has overstated many times). I see what you are saying by simplying stating that it would nice to have forums moderated all times but with the current staff we have now, the forums are well moderated and we dont have a zillion people on staff, it simply isnt neccessary and you cant seriously think that any like that would implicated. Because as part of the committee I will be the first to say I wont support it.

[Heathasm]

i don't see a problem with the number of mods we have now and their jobs...before the new mods were hired we were noticabley short handed due to step downs and the such but with a good 4 new people staffers a mod is on at almost all times.

i've never been to a large forum that had a really large amount of mods...i doubt we could pick THAT many trustworthy people and not have some sort of riot like when cb was hacked before, i really do

[KissMe2408]

I almost completely agree with Justin. In my mind, a moderator's job is to maintain order on the boards. Being responsible and mature is an important quality, although it is more of a quality than "something the job entails" .... The job of a moderator is to keep things from getting out of hand, which generally entails moving/locking topics, warning members, and generally making sure rules and guidelines are followed.

Yes, and the "moving/locking topics, warning members, making sure rules and guidelines are followed," That does take responsibility to do that job, no?

.
But really...being someone who interacts with the community is a mod duty. If you're a big bitch all the time, how are you supposed to represent the community in decisions? How are you going to expect people to listen to you when you set the rules? How are you going to expect people to look up to you and follow your example? I mean, you don't have to sugar-coat things and make everything seem peachy keen, but you can't be rude for no reason without provocation and you can't go around starting unnecessary fights. That is a requirement.
.

^exactly.

ah, and that whole "2 groups" of mods, thing. ah....don't you understand? you shouldn't have to have 2 groups, the mod should be both of those combined. and upper and lower house...man, i won't even start. and 50 mods? that's just way too many...too many cooks in the kitchen....there is no NEED for 50 mods. And usually we have enough mods on at the same time, i think this place is pretty well run.

[sadolakced acid]

lack of need is not a good reason.

what i see is an arbirary limit on the number of mods.

wouldn't it be better if you weren't shorthanded when a few mods step down?

what would it hurt to have 5 extra people staff?

i very often hear mods complain that they have lives and such and they can't be online all the time.

will more mods, it would provide a little leeway.

and as far as grouping mods, i can see how that might not work, but i can also see how it would work.

[*disco infiltrator*]

Why would we put something into effect when the system we have now works fine? Why are you so eager to change everything? Seriously..some things are fine the way they are. There's no problem with what we have now. We have our late night people and we have our early people and we have our day people..etc. etc. There's rarely a time when not one single mod is on. Besides, usually if the mods aren't on, the members aren't on too much either since we are all people and all have other things to do, like sleep and school.

[KissMe2408]

Why would we put something into effect when the system we have now works fine? Why are you so eager to change everything? Seriously..some things are fine the way they are. There's no problem with what we have now. We have our late night people and we have our early people and we have our day people..etc. etc. There's rarely a time when not one single mod is on. Besides, usually if the mods aren't on, the members aren't on too much either since we are all people and all have other things to do, like sleep and school.

^EXACTLY. Everything doesn't have to change. It's not like all hell is breaking loose and the members are all out of control and the system we have now is failing.

[Heathasm]

lack of need is not a good reason.

yes it is, if you have too much of some thing its deffinately prone to cause problems later down the road. why have 5 cookies when you're full with 2?

what i see is an arbirary limit on the number of mods.

we use what works...when there is an obvious lack of mods online new ones will be hired. right now do you honestly notice not enough mods online?

wouldn't it be better if you weren't shorthanded when a few mods step down?

yeah, which is why they hire more people

what would it hurt to have 5 extra people staff? 

you can't just be like "oh...we want this many mods" and suddenly that many qualified people turn up(for example we needed more myspace mods BADLY and still weren't able to find any one qualified and trustworthy enough for the job. ), just be smart about it and thats it...

i very often hear mods complain that they have lives and such and they can't be online all the time.

are their lives really effecting their perfomance THAT much? i dont think so...

will more mods, it would provide a little leeway. 

leeway for what? it seems pretty lax to me, and i've heard the mods complain more about having lives in this section because apparantly they aren't online enough? it really seems like thats what is being implied

[sadolakced acid]

well, i'm not really familiar with the way mods are hired,so can i ask

do you just hire everyone you think would be a good mod, or is there a limit?

[*disco infiltrator*]

Didn't you read the topic?

There was a limit of 4 more People because..we already had a lot of people. Point is, that number of people should be able to cover the Community forums (which I think they do pretty well) and if not, they are fired and we hire more.

There was other numbers for the other positions, but I don't remember.

[sadolakced acid]

i didn't read the hiring topic.

well, why not hire all who it's decided would make a good mod? first off, it'd give some extra buffer if some mods quit, and you wouldn't have to turn away capable people who might not apply next time.

i don't see what's bad about having extra mods.

and it means you have to hire less, and go through the selection process less, and there's always the chance they won't apply the next time.

[*mzkandi*]

Well then those people who wont apply will replaced by people that will. Simple as that.

Sure there will be times when all qualifed applicants may not be hired, thats life, and it happens everywhere you go. They can try again next time. Why not hire all the qualifed staff? Well once again that leads to the problem of overstock. Like Heather said, why have 4 cookies when you're full with 2. There is no need to hire more than we need. Right now, the forums are very well moderated, so what would be the need of having 5 to 10 additonal staff members just hanging out. If it is determined that there is a need for more staff, due moderators stepping down, more forums etc, then that would be the time to beef up staff.

[sadolakced acid]

mods aren't paid, right?

there's no physical space limitation...
so why exactly should be there a limitation?

can someone tell me what troubles that would cause?

[*disco infiltrator*]

Modding is a privelege given to a select few. We don't want just everyone to be mods because then it's not a privelege. If we have a lot of mods, some mods won't even get the chance to mod anything and feel like they don't need to come. We'll then have to fire mods, in turn hiring more anyway. We only want to have as much mods as are needed and we want to make sure we only take the top ones, not just anyone who might be a good mod. We need to make sure we only get the top people in our system.

[KissMe2408]

mods aren't paid, right?

there's no physical space limitation...
so why exactly should be there a limitation?

can someone tell me what troubles that would cause?

Talk about the mess of having 50 people staff. Pretty soon most of the members that actively post would all have modding powers. I mean you want no limit right? Might as well make everyone a mod in that case.

[sadolakced acid]

oh, well, if you want to keep modship something special, why didn't you say so in the first place?

here was i, thinking about what would be the most efficient...

[*incoherent*]

alright katie, this is supposed to be a discussion. yeah, you oppose everything he says, but think about it this way. if you didnt just get modded, im sure your views would be different. not that you being on staff is a bad thing, but you just seem to be degrading against the whole discussion and what we as a committee think should be changed. agreed, there will be different opinions, but im not really seeing where you're coming from. justin and everyone else is just trying to prove a point. theyre not saying that was should add all members who apply to staff, its just a generalization that maybe we need more staff. no, cB will not fall apart if this isnt done, but its just to keep cB running.

granted, not 50 mods are needed, but maybe a couple more here in there will keep us going and growing.

[*tweeak*]

oh, well, if you want to keep modship something special, why didn't you say so in the first place?

here was i, thinking about what would be the most efficient...

I assumed it was implied. It would be chaos with too many mods.

[sadolakced acid]

i'm really not seeing why it'd be chaos with 5 extra mods...

[*mona lisa*]

There's nothing wrong with having five extra mods if we find any qualified candidates. You said something about having nothing to lose if we had 50 mods. If you meant 5 instead of 50, you should have said that.

[*tweeak*]

No, 5 extra mods would not equal chaos. But you were throwing out larger numbers...

[sadolakced acid]

ah, but i meant 50 also.

logistics? mayhaps a problem. the mod system would have to be reorganized a bit, with a more developed hierarchy and specific jobs.

but of course, you're not going to find 50 qualified people.

i think if you hire all that are qualified, you don't have to hire as much, and that would provide a buffer amount of mods, and would reduce the need for so many selection times.

[*incoherent*]

^
thats a good point. im not just saying that because i ran, but it also decreases a persons chance of getting turned down. now thats not a very logical reason, but it would also help in running more smoothly with time zones and everything. i just think maybe adding 4-5 more would be sufficient.

[sadolakced acid]

well, not really a set number.

just every time your hiring, hire everyone who's qualified.

which leaves you with excess mods, which means it will take longer to dwindle down, which means you have to hire less often.

[*mipadi*]

Yes, and the "moving/locking topics, warning members, making sure rules and guidelines are followed," That does take responsibility to do that job, no?

But responsibility is a quality, not a duty that the job entails.

[*disco infiltrator*]

Spencer, just as you said, this is a discussion, so do you think you could also consider our opinions? We're not opposing every single thing you say, but we oppose what we oppose and that is that. You're not the only one who's right. It's just opinions. Even if I wasn't a mod, I wouldnt want to just hire everyone qualified.

You mentioned the fact that just cause you applied isn't why you're saying this..have you ever thought that maybe you weren't as qualified as you thought? Not everyone is qualified. We're not gonna just hire everyone with potential. We want to hire people that prove themselves that they are almost guaranteed to do a good job. We do not want a large number of mods. We only hire the most qualified, not just anyone who may do well.

[sadolakced acid]

it appears we have reached an impass of views. one of mods as a privilaged elite peacekeeping force, the other of mods as serving group for peacekeeping.

it doesn't look like we'll convince each other, so why don't we just ignore it?

don't address the number of mods.

[*disco infiltrator*]

Well, I do agree we shouldn't have had a set number of people to hire, just hire those we really thought stood out, but it wasn't my choice to say whether we had one or not. That was Jusun.

[*mzkandi*]

Ok, now that the number of mods business is out of the way (since we were getting no where with that), whats the next order of business? You know what, until I just looked at the topic title: modding: what does the job entail, I didnt know what the heck the purpose of this thread was, we've gotten that much off topic; but I think the basics of the jobs of a mod has been pretty much covered or no?

[*incoherent*]

sammi, i didnt say anything about me being as qualified. all i said was i just never get where shes coming from. i was just trying to prove that justin saying we should add 50 mods is just a suggestion. he really doesnt mean to add 50 mods and all that, hes just trying to prove that having 50 mods isnt a problem. yes, i also agree 50 mods is too much, but like i said earlier, 4-5 more wont hurt.

[*mzkandi*]

^ You cant just add 4-5 mod more if there arent 4-5 more that are qualified. And even if there are, its still a bit much, imo. Ughhh....wait I think what Justin suggested was best, lets get off the numbers issue.

[*Guest*]

im not signed in, but its spencer.

so i guess they do have to be qualified. i dont know. lets just get off the number issue as stated and move on to what this is really about.

This post has been edited by incoherent: Oct 18 2005, 12:16 PM

[*mzkandi*]

Job description of People Staff: Overview from I've read from the thread
1. Maintain order of the boards
2. Includes moving, closing, merging, splitting, and warning members, and making sure the forum rules are followed.
3. Responsible and mature
4. Practices good judgement
5. Friendly and welcoming - Some may argue that this not necessarily a requirement for moderators in general, however, at createblog we have people staff moderators, so being good with people, welcoming, and helpful is a major plus.
6. Interact with the community
7. Includes moving, closing, merging, splitting, and warning members, and making sure the forum rules are followed.
8. Be taking a job as a moderator, you agree to be active around the community, give input on things that would make createblog better, and lend a helping hand when needed.

add more if you want......

[racoons > you]

perhaps representing the views/problems of members in disucssions backstage?

[*disco infiltrator*]

Well, that's not specific to only People. That's everyone.

[sadolakced acid]

i think most those 'duties' are just things to make mods the nice squad.

good qualities to look for, but not a duty.

i think...

maintain order of the boards is the only job needed.

[KissMe2408]

Spencer,
Yah, ur right, this is a discussion. Justin has his opinions, and I have mine. I'm not trying to oppose to everything he says. I just happen to think differently on alot of the things he was saying. To say that my views would be different if I just didn't get modded is very insulting. I'm not degrading against the whole discussion, and i'm not going "against" the committee in any way. I think there are things that do need to be changed. I'm sorry you don't see where i'm coming from, you don't exactly have to see eye to eye with me on this subject. You sound like ur saying i'm trying to go against what everyone is saying. "Justin and everyone is trying to pove a point"...yes, i know. I'm trying to put in my point too. I really regret even saying the phrase, "Cb..falling..apart". Your point was that you thought generally there should be more staff. My point was generally that i think the staff numbers are just fine. AND NO, i'm not saying that because i just got modded. That has nothing to do with it at all. That really was low of you to say that about my views and opinions. And just so you know, i do respect Justin and his views and everyone elses, but that doesn't mean i have to agree. I'm not the kind of person that just sits back and agrees with everyone when really inside i don't think it's a good idea.
So i'm sorry, really i am.

[sadolakced acid]

someone with mod powers close this thread and open a new one.

it's too far off topic.

[Heathasm]

or how about we just get back on topic form kiera's post

Job description of People Staff: Overview from I've read from the thread
1. Maintain order of the boards
2. Responsible and mature
3. Practices good judgement
4. Friendly and welcoming - Some may argue that this not necessarily a requirement for moderators in general, however, at createblog we have people staff moderators, so being good with people, welcoming, and helpful is a major plus.
5. Interact with the community
6. Includes moving, closing, merging, splitting, and warning members, and making sure the forum rules are followed.
7. Be taking a job as a moderator, you agree to be active around the community, give input on things that would make createblog better, and lend a helping hand when needed.

add more if you want......

i like these rules, its basically the summary of what a people staffer is and i can't think of any thing else to add

[KissMe2408]

I agree with Keira's post. I can't think of anything else to add either

[racoons > you]

Well, that's not specific to only People. That's everyone.

most of the attitude3 ones are necessary to a degree for design staff as well, but they are still worth including

i think the representing thing shoul dgo in, but if no onme else agrees, fine

[*disco infiltrator*]

Well, I think that's sort of a known unwritten rule.

[*incoherent*]

Spencer,
Yah, ur right, this is a discussion. Justin has his opinions, and I have mine. I'm not trying to oppose to everything he says. I just happen to think differently on alot of the things he was saying. To say that my views would be different if I just didn't get modded is very insulting. I'm not degrading against the whole discussion, and i'm not going "against" the committee in any way. I think there are things that do need to be changed. I'm sorry you don't see where i'm coming from, you don't exactly have to see eye to eye with me on this subject. You sound like ur saying i'm trying to go against what everyone is saying. "Justin and everyone is trying to pove a point"...yes, i know. I'm trying to put in my point too. I really regret even saying the phrase, "Cb..falling..apart". Your point was that you thought generally there should be more staff. My point was generally that i think the staff numbers are just fine. AND NO, i'm not saying that because i just got modded. That has nothing to do with it at all. That really was low of you to say that about my views and opinions. And just so you know, i do respect Justin and his views and everyone elses, but that doesn't mean i have to agree. I'm not the kind of person that just sits back and agrees with everyone when really inside i don't think it's a good idea.
So i'm sorry, really i am.

i guess someone deleted my post. im sorry i offended you. i was just mad that this wasnt going anywhere.

my apologies as well.

[racoons > you]

Well, I think that's sort of a known unwritten rule.

thats fine, but then do we need to include 'practices good judgement' by the same reasoning?

and spencer, we are going somewhere... slowly but surely. have faith, everyone

[*disco infiltrator*]

No, I suppose that's pretty much implied as well..

Let's not include things that don't really have to be included as a rule..I think we're all competent enough to realize we're supposed to use good judgement and act responsibly and whatnot.

[*mipadi*]

Yes, I agree; we should keep the list of duties to a minimum, so as to be as simple as possible.

[*incoherent*]

and spencer, we are going somewhere... slowly but surely. have faith, everyone

i said that because everyone was off topic and not doing anything but fighting about whats right and whats wrong.

we'll need a temporary subforum during the creation of the bylaws. one pinned topic with the most current working copy of the bylaws.

do we have that or have we just not really decided anything yet?

[sadolakced acid]

i think the only duty should be to maintain order in the forums.

[racoons > you]

a nit picky point:

in kiera's rules, shouldn't number six really come directly after number 1, as it basically clarifies what was meant?

[*mzkandi*]

^ I wasnt trying to write them in a certain order, but yeah it should. *editted*