physical education, requirements too high Options

[sprezzatura]

PE is the most hated class in my school because we do lots of running and stretching. The standards of passing that class with an A is too high that only one or two students from the whole class of 50 something people could fulfill.
Push-ups are a killer to all students. Many student's strength aren't strong enough to do 15 push-ups to get an A. Most people could only do 2-3 push-ups.
Running is harsh too. For the mile run, the passing grade is 8 minutes (guys) and 10 minutes (girls). Same thing, almost nobody can make it on time.
Sadly, George W. Bush is the one who set those standards.

Should the standards of PE be a bit lower (or at least based on effort, not how physically strong you are) so that everybody can fulfill it?

Most students at the school could only meet the "C" requirementsfor PE. And the "A" in high school is really important for students who wanted to get into a good university.
IT MATTERS. MANY HONORS STUDENTS (like me) GET STRAIGHT A's EXCEPT FOR PE. Academic and social abilities are much more important than physical strength (you don't need to run fast/do push-ups in order to get into a good college, but of course, we need exercisng, but we can decide on how much running/push-ups we can do based on our strength).

People from my school take AP courses because they want to bring up their GPAs due to PE.

I try my very best in PE, but still my grade isn't good at all.

PE grade should be based on your effort, not your physical strength.

This post has been edited by peggysturr: Oct 1 2005, 09:33 PM

[Gigi]

Maybe your school is harder. Our school believes in students getting the recommended 20 minutes of cardio a day and for them to try their best at stuff. Skill is only worth something like 5 percent of a mark. Participation, effort, etc, are huge chunks of the course.

So when I suck at something (er...everything), I pretend like I'm working hard to try ny best. All 3 years of high school, I've gotten 90 and above averages.

Yeah. Our system makes more sense to me.

[*xcaitlinx*]

in my school we have to run 3/4 of a mile every friday...and if we don't get under 10 minutes then we get a zero. i think it's unfair because there are some overweight/out of shape people that can't physically run it that fast...and that shouldn't affect their grade. it should be about the EFFORT, not how FAST they are.

[*mipadi*]

Well, first of all, there's no reason that everyone should get an A; an A represents a group of students at the top of their class, which isn't everyone.

Secondly, the requirements don't seem that high. 15 push-ups? That's certainly not an unreasonable amount. If someone can only do 2-3, then he should be working hard in order to increase that.

8 minute mile, or 10 for girls? That's a bit strenuous--it is a pace of 7-1/2 miles per hour--but it's not overly difficult for just one mile.

[sprezzatura]

Well, first of all, there's no reason that everyone should get an A; an A represents a group of students at the top of their class, which isn't everyone.

Secondly, the requirements don't seem that high. 15 push-ups? That's certainly not an unreasonable amount. If someone can only do 2-3, then he should be working hard in order to increase that.

8 minute mile, or 10 for girls? That's a bit strenuous--it is a pace of 7-1/2 miles per hour--but it's not overly difficult for just one mile.

Most students at the school could only meet the "C" requirementsfor PE. And the "A" in high school is really important for students who wanted to get into a good university.


IT MATTERS. MANY HONORS STUDENTS (like me) GET STRAIGHT A's EXCEPT FOR PE. Academic and social abilities are much more important than physical strength (you don't need to run fast/do push-ups in order to get into a good college, but of course, we need exercisng, but we can decide on how much running/push-ups we can do based on our strength).

People from my school take AP courses because they want to bring up their GPAs due to PE.

I try my very best in PE, but still my grade isn't good at all.

PE grade should be based on your effort, not your physical strength.

This post has been edited by peggysturr: Oct 1 2005, 09:31 PM

[*mipadi*]

Most students at the school could only meet the "C" requirementsfor PE. And the "A" in high school is really important for students who wanted to get into a good university.

An A in high school PE isn't a huge deal to colleges; at any rate, the excuse "students need A's to get into college" is what makes grade inflation at high schools such a problem. In the end, an A means very little.

Like it or not, a C is average, and there's no reason everyone should get an A in every class for doing a mediocre amount of work--including physical education. Getting top grades means putting some work into something; if you can't do 15 pushups or can't run an 8-minute mile but need the grade, start doing pushups every day or running a mile everyday for practice. You shouldn't get an A for doing no work outside of class, just because you need it to get into a good college. A school or teacher is not obligated to give you an A, just so you get into the college of your dreams.

[silver-rain]

Ehh, I don't think those requirements are too hard...My school doesn't really have requirements, and a 10 minute mile isn't that hard to do.
And, like mipadi said, colleges don't really care about your PE grade, it doesn't even factor into my school's transcript averages.

[Gigi]

Here, we get to pick 5 courses to be averaged for colleges.

Oh, and we get 20 minutes to run a few blocks. XD

[HongKongDong]

PE is the most hated class in my school because we do lots of running and stretching. The standards of passing that class with an A is too high that only one or two students from the whole class of 50 something people could fulfill.
Push-ups are a killer to all students. Many student's strength aren't strong enough to do 15 push-ups to get an A. Most people could only do 2-3 push-ups.
Running is harsh too. For the mile run, the passing grade is 8 minutes (guys) and 10 minutes (girls). Same thing, almost nobody can make it on time.
Sadly, George W. Bush is the one who set those standards.

Should the standards of PE be a bit lower so that everybody can fulfill it?
EDIT: Don't know which forum it belongs to, so I will just put it here. A mod can move this if it is in the wrong section.

15 push-ups... all it takes is 15.... you cannot be serious... out of 50 your saying only TWO of them are able to do 15, and that most can only do 2 or 3.... WOW

I'm sorry but this just adds in to why america is being seen as one of the more lazy countries.

I guess I can see the mile run part, there are those who have the stregnth but may not have the endurance for such.

The standards for my school were higher, 30 pushups, 6 min. for guys and 8 for girls on the mile run. Most were able to make it. There were only a few unable to pass.

but like others have said... it doesn't really factor in for colleges. Come on though... only 15 pushups... my brother can double that and hes 7!!!

[WindSorcerous]

PE shouldn't be in High Schools. It should only be in Elementary schools and Middle Schools. It's a pointless class that hurts many people's GPA.
We get graded if we change for gym, and if we participate...the whole time. And the gym teachers are these sexist men who don't care if a girl is feeling well for obvious reasons...It's really annoying. I don't have a problem with the workout because I can do a lot of pushups and crunches, but I can't run. I'm a slow runner and I have trouble breathing when I run. I hate it completely. The best time I ever got was 8:30 on the mile. Everything else was between that and 9:45, so I just make it for 10 minutes.

Seriously though, "Those who can't teach, teach gym." That's what everyone says in my school because our gym teachers can't teach...they're horrible people and they have no lives! Ugh...I hate gym...

[WindSorcerous]

An A in high school PE isn't a huge deal to colleges; at any rate, the excuse "students need A's to get into college" is what makes grade inflation at high schools such a problem. In the end, an A means very little

It matters for your GPA in my school. Everyone should get an A in gym for at least trying...heck, we shouldn't have it anyway like I stated above. It just hurts your grade.

[*RiC3xBoy*]

I really don't like that schools care so much on MANY you do and not HOW HARD you try. For instance, I can do about 30-40 CORRECT push ups which honestly doesn't seem alot, but I know some people who say they do at least 100 a day and yet I have much more muscle in the arms and abs.

[*tweeak*]

I took online PE. The mile (the one thing we did at school) was essentially a participation grade, and you just had to write about whether or not your time improved and made your goal or something like that. But, so, uh, both times I cheated and still wound up with times in the 10- and 11-minute range. I just stopped a couple laps early, because no one could prove otherwise and I lost count. I walked nearly all of it, though, because I found someone to talk to, and neither of us gave a damn and didn't even pretend to tie.

But a 8 minute mile just to pass? No f**king way. I'd fail. I can't run worth anything. It could actually kill me.

[PinkTrash]

Again, Im Canadian. Standards are different.
First, for us; it would not affect getting into a good university. They won't look at your phys. ed marks, and you can drop the course in grade 10.
Our standards aren't as high either, participation and enthusiasm is most important. Your athletic ablility is still part of it, but you won't be penalized as much for it. Even with these low standards a lot of people happend to fail phys. ed by not showing up, skipping class, etc. -.-

[*mipadi*]

It matters for your GPA in my school. Everyone should get an A in gym for at least trying...heck, we shouldn't have it anyway like I stated above. It just hurts your grade.

Just out of curiosity, how much running or pushups do you do outside of class?

[*tweeak*]

Uh, it helped my GPA. For us, it doesn't matter if you do it well, just so long as you do it. (and that's on and offline. it's pretty easy to get away with faking things either way)

[Teesa]

I think the curriculum is just fine for physical education. Although I think yours is harder, I personally love the class. It's seriously an easy GPA booster and you get exercise.

[rinchan089]

In my P.E. class this year, we have so little people we get to create our own lesson plans and walk around the track on tuesdays.

It's so awesome...

Rin-chan

[*salcha*]

I think that's why you work for it.

[meleonade]

Wow, your school standards are a tod bit too harsh for u guys. At our high school, we just have to run without stopping the whole time and we get full marks no matter how far we ran.

[miz_sunshine]

Our school requirements are harder! We have to do at least 20pushups(girls)35(guys), 45situps(girls)50(guys)3pullups(girls)6pullups(guys) a mile in 8min. for girls and 7minuts for guys. sometimes we even have to do two miles in one day! We do lunges around the school yard and we have to do the "chair" which is when you act like your sitting without a chair below. IT all counts for your grade.

[AngryBaby]

Is your PE class coed? because at my new highschool PE is coed =/
and if the guys cant get 15 pushups thats....erm lol
when i was a freshman in my PE class(at my old school), we had to do at least 35 pushups in 35 seconds. for testing.
we'd run a mile for even talking. same went for my girl cousin who went to the same school.

Now im not in PE. im in Jv basketball, and they let basketball practice(as well as any other athletics) take place of your last class period(which is the best idea ever!) because at my school class periods are an hour and a half long. since we have a "divided schedule". and now that i look back on PE i wish we had it as easy as they do lol. because you run a mile every day in basketball for warm up=/. and have to get at least 6:30. and then run one after weight training.I'll admit, i puked in a trash can my first day lol along with others. but now, im starting to like it. because im getting in really great shape. so whats my point? STOP WHINING.
you dont have it bad at all, and you should get in shape somehow.

^ It factors into our averages.
--
Are you serious?

A passing grade for girls in the mile run here is 8 minutes and for guys it's 6 and 1/2.

I can run a mile in 6 minutes so it's not that big of a deal to me, but I can understand how that could be unfair..

and of course i agree with Suzzette. you might think we go to the same school or something ha.

[o0olaalaa]

omg they made us run 2 miles it was horrible

[Endless_Love ...]

Consider yourself lucky mine is way worse than that! Every week we have a 25 minute run where you have to run around the track for 25 minutes and the grading scale is:

6 laps: D
7 laps: C
8 laps: B
9 laps: A-
10 laps: A

When we do mile runs (which is a very happy time when we do) you have to get under 8 minutes (both girls and guys) but just about everyone does.

For pushups we have to do 25 (girls) and 30 (guys) and crunches 50 (girls) 60 (guys)
And this is only middle school! High school has 40 minute runs...

[x1_krazie_ladie]

oh my that sucks...well at my school we have like fitness tests every term...and well we have to run like 6 laps around our 400m thingy and we have to get around uner 13 mins for an A and then pushups...its around i ono cuz in my school it depends on ur age(its called the canadian fitness something something =S)..if u're 13 then its like 21 push ups for A under 14 to be an A? im not sure =S but that mile thing i think it is kind of harsh...maybe they just want u guys to work harder? build muscles so u can be fit and stuff?

[Jeng]

I HATE GYM THIS YEAR.reason why- because we have to do a gym report every term.

[sprezzatura]

I HATE GYM THIS YEAR.reason why- because we have to do a gym report every term.

Same here.

[aera]

i dont mean to be mean... but those requirments are pretty low. i'm in middle school and even though our standards are lower, our average is much, much higher (than the standards).

[it's all out of a minute]

Standards for eight graders:
Pushups: 14+ for boys and 11+ for girls
Mile: 7-8 minutes for boys and 9-10 for girls
Situps: (i forget)

Average for eigth graders(in my school):
Pushups: 30+ for boys and 25+ for girls
Mile: 8 minutes for both boys and girls
Situps: 35+ for boys and girls

since you're high schoolers, the standards should be higher...

[BOLIN_Vee]

it doesn't bother me, because our coaches are tough and the school focuses more on pe and sports more than acedemics it feels like...so everyone in my grade is pretty athletic and we just do what were tolled and suck it up.

our standards are like 35 push ups (for everyone) no knee push ups
100 crunches (for everyone)
20 sit ups (everyone)
5 pull ups (in a row) everyone
2.5 minut invisible bench against the wall
sprint a lap, walk a lap, sprint 2 laps, walk a lap, sprint 3 laps...PE OVER!!!

i'm only in pe this semester because i dont wanna be on soccer and i'm waiting for lacrosse

and we dont have fitness tests we just have this daily routine everyday xept tuesday wich is block day.

[DaTru KataLYST]

Well I'm horribly unathletic.

But I got A's in PE.

Same set standard, same ballbustin teacher.

But you just gotta bust some balls right back for that A for the GPA!!!


FOR THE GPA!!! ARGHH!!

[vash1530]

i think that if you spent some time working on your fitness outside of school or join a team you will do much better.

[Oranite]

This proves that american's are very obese. Everyone should be able to meet does standards.

[Gigi]

This proves that american's are very obese. Everyone should be able to meet does standards.

Um. That proves nothing.

Just because someone can't perform to a certain athletic ability, doesn't make them obese. Your BMI makes you obese.

And I totally disagree with people being able to meet these standards. Everyone is different, everyone has their own capabilities. To make a generalization or expectation that we all need to be able to do it properly...I find that hard to agree with.

That's also why I disagree with the strict requirements in P.E. I think that, as long as the students are making an effort to improve their life by being more active and having a healthy lifestyle, it's sufficient. The whole purpose of P.E. (to me, anyway) is to educate us about exercise and being active, since so many North Americans are overweight. We're not training for the freaking army here.

[vash1530]

i think these standards dhould be lowered but are a positive way to combat the problem of overweight teens in america.

[_sarcastic_]

my school's PE requirement is that all you have to take is freshmen year PE and you're done for the rest of your Highschool life

[klumzy]

dang those are some tough standards to meet, considering not everyone's gonna grow up to be a pro athlete -.-

but could be because theres a lot of fat people in the US, a long time ago i heard over half of the us population is obese... thats scary o.O

[MrElsewhere]

PE is the most hated class in my school because we do lots of running and stretching. The standards of passing that class with an A is too high that only one or two students from the whole class of 50 something people could fulfill.
Push-ups are a killer to all students. Many student's strength aren't strong enough to do 15 push-ups to get an A. Most people could only do 2-3 push-ups.
Running is harsh too. For the mile run, the passing grade is 8 minutes (guys) and 10 minutes (girls). Same thing, almost nobody can make it on time.
Sadly, George W. Bush is the one who set those standards.

Should the standards of PE be a bit lower (or at least based on effort, not how physically strong you are) so that everybody can fulfill it?

the running is a bit harsh. I can do under 10 minutes pretty easy. I started running an average of 7:55 for my miles near the end of last term.

However, 2-3 pushups is pretty damn weak. My 10 year old brother can do more than that. If you do 5-6 sets of 8 pushups everyday for a month, you should definitely see results. Also, it's better to exercise in a group.

Your standards are pretty normal to me.

Oh, and if you're trying your hardest everyday in PE, shouldn't you improve? If you call trying your very best trying hard on only a few days a week, and slacking the other days, then I can see why you have a low PE grade.

I don't consider myself to be exceptionally athletic, but I go out there and I give it everything I've got everyday. And I know a lot of kids that do too. But then there's a lot of kids that don't even try.

[edit]

in my school we have to run 3/4 of a mile every friday...and if we don't get under 10 minutes then we get a zero. i think it's unfair because there are some overweight/out of shape people that can't physically run it that fast...and that shouldn't affect their grade. it should be about the EFFORT, not how FAST they are

I used to do that in middle school. My friend who is overweight and has asthma managed to speed-walk and partially run it in under 10 minutes.

[Crich323]

I probably shouldn't be saying this but I would like my school to make us run for 25 minutes a day.
We doing nothing in our gym class and the most we run is 3 minutes!
In gym I would like to GET FIT, not play games.
My school does have it much easier though.

[KissMe2408]

Wow, if your mile run is 10 minutes to get an A then consider yourself lucky. You basically are just doing light jogging to get to the end in 10 minutes. So no I don't think Physical Education has too high of standards. I actually think they are too low. Too many kids are getting fat, lazy, and out of shape. If a kid has asthma or something, then that's a different situation, but a teenager should be able to do more then 2-3 pushups.
Those standards that are set are pretty average. Most kids should be up to that level.
But that's just my opinion.

[voguelove]

no.

between the ages of 10 and 13 has an 80 percent chance of becoming an obese adult.

i think its good. we only have to take pe one year which is kinda bad for excersizing because for the kids that dont do sports, they have no physical activity. and lots are lazy to go run laps at a nearby school or jog with the dog.

[*Blow_Don't_SUCK*]

My school is like that too! And not only do they physically make us struggle they would make us watch this "physically educational" movie and write a report about it with requirements that aren't necessary. Then the PE teacher corrects the papers in such a way that you could tell they don't know what they're doing when it comes to grading papers!

[eternalyfe]

Well, it's scary how my high school only has a two year requirement for PE. Out of four years, students are only obligated to take two years of it. In fact, there is no PE 3, or PE 4. So we can't take any more than two years.
Seeing as how important physical fitness is becoming and how abused exercise is now, PE's requirements shouldn't be dropped. The rate of obesity is, I believe, higher than the rate of people at a normal weight or even underwight. It's definitely important that physical education be taken seriously. So no, don't drop the requirements for the kids who can't fit them because of their eating and exercising habits.

[Rachel]

While I agree that gym should be graded on effort, not ability, 15 pushups isn't that bad.

The only thing I hate is running the mile. It is just annoying. If I wanted to run, I'd do track mkay.

[Anielka]

I would do ANYTHING to get out of PE. Anything, no joke. The day before that tri comes I always consider doing something to myself so that I won't have to go. It's the worst class ever. *sniffle*

[rainbowish]

I have never been in a P.E. class in my life, and I am a junior in high school. They dont make me do it because I f**ked my ankle up really bad when I was younger so I dont have to do it. HAHAHA!

[jnukes]

lower the p.e standards ? well wouldn't that increase the population of obese people even MORE ?



though, i do agree, it should be based on effort, but then it shouldn't . i know people in my classes that just copy off homework and get A's without any effort, but people that DO put in effort and stuggle with a C or a B .


I have thoughts on this topic, but it's too hard for me to explain it all out.


But really though, 15 push ups is NOT A LOT, in my p.e class last year, in 8th grade, all you had to do was ONE PULL UP TO GET A PASSING GRADE , BUT MOST PEOPLE COULDN'T EVEN DO IT. this is probably why other countries are so advanced than the US, our standards are so low.

[angelrevelation]

here you only have to do PE for 2 years in high school to fulfill graduation requirements. the 1st year (usually 9th grade) is in junior high, so they don't make it too hard. and the last year is mostly health, so i dont think it's working out or anything.

but i think it's kind of the same with any other class- some ppl just can't do it (ex. math or art), but it doesnt mean that they should lower the standards

[dani41790]

Yeah I agree. The standards are way to high. It's not fair to grade students on your physical ability. People should atleast be graded on effort. Your school's standards are not as bad as mine though. In my school you gotta be able to run 2 miles in 15 minutes, do atleast 20 pushups, try to get to 80 crunches and be able to do atleast 10 pull ups. Crazy stuff really. Had several people in my class pass out from all the strenuous workouts.

[yukichan]

The standards for P.E are fine.
If you can't reach a certain criteria, work on it so you can.
At my school, our grade is based on how much we improve.
15 pushups is little..We have to do about 36 pushups, 36 situps, etc.
We have to do portfolios, which is 60% of our grade, so many of us get A's...

[symphomaniac]

Our school's requirements are easy.
At least, the summer school P.E. class that I took was. The mile was actually a mile and a half, though, so the coaches were lenient. I think I got sixteen minutes? Haha. I hate running. Summer School P.E. is easily ace-able, even if you're physically inept.

[seriouslynikki]

I agree, PE should grade us by our efforts and not our physical strength
But i also agree that we should be able to do at least 10 push ups.
At least my parents don't care about PE. At least im fit, they'll be okay.
It's not that hard to do. PE IS a class. Practice everyday for homework.

[..:loveee.NuTTii]

At my school, the PE grade is based on effort and it's pretty fair, but even then a lot of people don't pass. I dunno...I guess our gym teacher is just evil. Still, I'm glad I don't have to do push-ups to pass PE.

[simx]

[color=]I took PE during the summer and it rained a lot so we didn't couldn't really do much.... but yea our requirements for PE are about the same. *shrug* I don't think it's that unreasonable... I didn't mind.[/color]

[misoshiru]

PE is the most hated class in my school because we do lots of running and stretching. The standards of passing that class with an A is too high that only one or two students from the whole class of 50 something people could fulfill.
Push-ups are a killer to all students. Many student's strength aren't strong enough to do 15 push-ups to get an A. Most people could only do 2-3 push-ups.
Running is harsh too. For the mile run, the passing grade is 8 minutes (guys) and 10 minutes (girls). Same thing, almost nobody can make it on time.
Sadly, George W. Bush is the one who set those standards.

Should the standards of PE be a bit lower (or at least based on effort, not how physically strong you are) so that everybody can fulfill it?

well, maybe it's only your school. at our school, what we were graded on was on our effort and participation. but, by looking at the standards of your school, i personally think that it's much different than those in schools outside of the U.S. personally, i can do more than 15 situps AND can run the mile in under 10 minutes. when i took p.e., guys could do over 50 pushups and run the mile at around 6-7 minutes. and, i've never gotten anything below an A in p.e.

[stellery]

o_o. i got an a+ in gym&i like walked the mile.
and i got like 10 push-ups which really sucked.

[Looow]

Those requirements don't seem too harsh..

10 minutes for a run isn't hard at all.
15 push ups? It's really not that much either.

[aubbob]

we have to run a mile almost every other day
pretty gay
to top it off if our class doesn't finish in under 10 mins
all together we do it again.
private school... rawr

[Classical Twist]

I have to agree with everyone that said these requirements aren't too hard.

Honestly, if someone really does work at it to improve their weaknesses, meeting these requirements is not hard. Last year I had an obese friend who couldn't finish the mile in less than 13 minutes, so I worked with her practically everyday in my neighborhood. We would walk/jog for 30-45 minutes for 3-4 times a week. She improved gradually, and eventually she was able to finish the mile in less 10 minutes.

I couldn't pull ups or push ups. So everyday I would head to this park nearby and hang on a monkey bar for as long as possible to build up arm strength. And I did push ups according to day(ex: February 12 = 12 pushups), and now I can do pushups no problem in perfect form.

I remember in 4th grade my teacher used to make us run 3 laps everyday during recess before we could play. And you know what? Everyone in my class had a great mile time, superior to the other 4th grade classes, who weren't required to do so.

[VintagexCore]

2 miles every Friday.
ughh.

[*Statues/Shadows*]

motherf**king GEORGIA WANTS TO MAKE 30 MINUTES A DAYS OF PE FOR GRADES K-5 AND 45 MINUTES DAILY FOR GRADES 6-8. THIS WILL VIRTUALLY ELIMINATE MUSIC EDUCATION IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS, AND GREATLY RESTRICT ALL OTHER FINE ARTS CLASSES AS WELL. THEY'RE VOTING ON THE BLL THIS WEEK. IT'S THE MOST ABSURD THING EVER AND IT CAN'T f**king GO THROUGH. AS IF I DIDN'T NOT BELIEVE IN PE IN THE FIRST PLACE, IF THIS PASSES, WE WILL ALL RESENT IT COMPLETELY ARGHHHH

[misoshiru]

^oh my, but our P.E. classes are 90 minutes long.

then again, our school goes by block periods.

[AnnahhbeL]

we do dancing in my school.
and we always have to be prepared, or else...FAIL!

we dance hip hop cause we have lessons and we have to do track, volley ball, soccer, basketball, tennis, wall climbing..etc..

[BOLIN_Vee]

at my school if u do a sport u dont have to do PE
but the sports are even more hardcore than PE
i do lacrosse and our school is really big on atheletics and they get all these coaches to push us out of our minds we work so hard. and i can hear acrose the feild the boys coach yelling at his group telling them to shut the hell up and run faster. but the PE group all they do work out with the track team...wich isnt too easy either

[BrokenDream]

o___O

I can do 1 mile runs in 4 minutes or so.
Anyway your school is probably harder then others.

P.E. is a important class to me. I don't take P.E. I take Athletics. They have P.E. for a reason -to strengthen your muscles, and keep you moving. If it wasn't for P.E. classes, we would probably be un-healthy. Everyone needs some excerise (sp?).

[jenniez618]

argg...pe sucks at my school, first quarter we had to run a mile, second quarter we had to do gymnastics, and third quarter, which is what i'm currently in i have to do sqaure dancing, it's soo retarded!

[misoshiru]

^ but that doesn't sound tiring at all

[vash1530]

i think ppl who hav trouble in PE shud treat it like an academic class.
To pass u need to study, so to pass fitness test, u shud train. I think its good for schools to hav higher standards of fitness and if students work hard to stay in shape it will ultimately benifit them.

[lilith]

doesnt sound very hard but i agree its not really fair cus people have diffrent ability and strength. but this is y folks, get in shape! im sure ur young..

[timeflies51]

Our PE grade is based on effort, participation, preparation, and attendance.

Participate? Good.
Give a decent amount of effort? Good.
Wear your uniform, wear sneakers, and take off all jewelry? Good.
Attend every class (except you can be absent for one)? Good.

You just got an E.


I wore my earrings twice during the swimming unit (because I just got them pierced) and I got an S. I was kind of ticked, but it didn't piss me off that much. I just thought it was kind of stupid.

We have physical fitness testing and stuff, but I think it's just for statistics and for your own idea of how in-shape you are. It doesn't count towards your grade.

If schools actually do that... I'd definitely protest or something!

[flc]

At my school, I don't think you ARE graded on how fit you are. People do get good grades for effort.

But I do think our final is way too difficult. We had to run a mile in 10 minutes and under. It sounds like a long time, but for people like me, it was way too hard. My legs were like jello, I felt sick and dizzy. I don't think we practiced running enough to accomplish something like that, we wasted so much time doing stupid stretches at the beginning of class.

I don't think anyone who isn't ready for that should be forced to run. They should be given an alternative.

[waccoon]

Although they should grade you on effort.. anyone who can't do 15 pushups is in sorry shape and probably deserves a low grade. ;/

[lostkitsune]

In my highschool, the standards aren't really that high, but what kills a lot of students is that we actually had a test in physical education that no one can pass. It's really unfair, especially when you get an A for participation and getting dressed for class. That the only problems I see with ours.. and that we play with all the grades.. So short little 9th grade girls (me) and really really extremely tall seniors in a basketball game... isn't always the best.

[magicfann]

oh god peggysturr, please kill yourself, i think your fat
i make mile in 6:30 and i can do at least 40 push ups straight

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damn i wish we had a swimming unit

[--x who0ps]

A= are for the over-achieving students
C= average

i dont see why performance is what counts in every class except PE. therefore, i dont think that effort should be what they grade you on.
besides, if you really put in the effort that "honor students" are expected to give, then, like mipadi said, you would be practicing pushups and running miles on your own time.

your pe standards arent that high anyway.
8 min mile run for boys and 10 min mile runs for girls? that's a joke.
in our school, it's 8min mile runs for girls and 6 for guys.
pushups are 30 minimum for girls.

those who arent as physically fit shouldnt be complaining anyway. because it's the same for stupid people in an academic class.
they're both disadvantaged&maybe they should be pitied. but as far as i know, stupid ppl in regular classes are just plain stupid, slow, and there's no sympathy directed towards them whatsoever.

[Smoogrish]

oh god peggysturr, please kill yourself, i think your fat
i make mile in 6:30 and i can do at least 40 push ups straight

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damn i wish we had a swimming unit

HE LIEEEEEEEEES! I've seen him run. He's over 7 minutes. Way over. I beat him.



Jeff, stop being mean to people.



P.E. is a ridiculously easy A.

[much2muse]

I dont think PE should be a grade at all unless you want to take it. JUST LET US BE FAT!

______

i got a B in gym, when i normally get straight A's, because i didnt pay my $2 fee. I was so mad. Like the stupid 2 dollars couldn't have waited to be paid until tomorrow!? My gym teachers a.. bad word.

[Gypsy Eyes]

I hate to say it but if people can't run a mile in 10 minutes they deserve what they get (unless they have asthma or something)

[iminlovewithTomD...]

my school grades on effort.. but i still only get a B... ehh who cares?? I'm not athletic.. wow reading your guyses posts makes me really greatful for my PE class

all have to do is 10 pushups and situps (even though i cant do like ANY push ups), run two laps around the soccer field at the beginning of each class, and then we usually do drills for some sport, and at the end of that sport's unit, we play an actual full game of the sport... except then there's fitness testing... which can suck...

but yeah, i can say im NOT jealous of you guys

[nevernothere]

PE is the most hated class in my school because we do lots of running and stretching. The standards of passing that class with an A is too high that only one or two students from the whole class of 50 something people could fulfill.
Push-ups are a killer to all students. Many student's strength aren't strong enough to do 15 push-ups to get an A. Most people could only do 2-3 push-ups.
Running is harsh too. For the mile run, the passing grade is 8 minutes (guys) and 10 minutes (girls). Same thing, almost nobody can make it on time.
Sadly, George W. Bush is the one who set those standards.

Should the standards of PE be a bit lower (or at least based on effort, not how physically strong you are) so that everybody can fulfill it?

PE is required for all 4 years here... No one gives a shit about PE though because it only counts for honor roll. It doesn't affect your GPA.... AND they grade partially on effort. Last year I took 9 weeks of swimming... and I am atrocious... yet I got an A. I must say, if only one or two students from your class of 50-something can do 15 pushups and run a mile in less than 8 or 10 minutes... that's pretty pathetic. We kinda get to pick what we do here... so I took 9 weeks of tennis, 9 weeks of volleyball, 9 weeks of weightlifting, and 9 weeks of cardiovascular games. It really ain't bad here... I think from our class of 40 something, roughly 5 kids couldn't meet those standards you mentioned.

[iminlovewithTomD...]

I dont think PE should be a grade at all unless you want to take it. JUST LET US BE FAT!

i agree... it's my own personal business how physically fit i am!!!

not that my school's PE Class is really tough anyway... i still hate it.

[snak3y3z1001]

Honestly imo its pretty sad that the majority of the student body in your school could do only 2-3 pushups. My last yr in hs, they started to give PE exams at the end of every semester. The min to pass was 20 pushups,36 situps and 1.5mile run in under 15:00. This was the min for the females, however I followed this min standards too since I was the only male in the class. XD Everyone passed.

[danginja]

I remember awhile the requirements for guys was 20 push ups..and had to run the mile, for boys, in 7:30 minutes. I passed with an A but yeah that was like in elementary school....

[Paradox of Life]

I think this would make a good debate topic. Don't worry, feel free to post still, but keep in mind your posts may be countered.

>Moved to Debate>

[AngelinaTaylor]

Fortunately, we only have to take P.E. in grade 9. Then it's optionable for 10, 11 and 12. All schools should do that..

And I do think it's ridiculous that they would have such high standards.. But it's not very hard to achieve it. At the end of grade 9, I did 40 push-ups and 100 sit ups, and we had to run 12 minutes and do about 5 laps of the field. The running part was a bitch..

But that's ok if it's in grade 9, because it doesn't matter for university. Only years 11 and 12 count in Canada.

[fameONE]

Physical Education requirements aren't high enough.

Too much of America's youth would rather scarf down a double cheeseburger, drink Starbucks and sti on the computer for hours at a time rather than work out.

Disgusting.

[forza]

^ you're right. The health problems in this country stem from grade school P.E. Whether people want to believe it or not. And frankly, the health condition in this country is deplorable. It all turns into a slippery slope.

People get out of shape >> people need health care >> people can't work >> the country loses money >> the next generation is screwed.

[AngelinaTaylor]

^ Sometimes it's not the person's fault for not being perfectly fit like everyone else. Some people have such busy schedules that they don't really have time to "get in shape".

[snak3y3z1001]

Physical Education requirements aren't high enough.

Too much of America's youth would rather scarf down a double cheeseburger, drink Starbucks and sti on the computer for hours at a time rather than work out.

Disgusting.

rawr. lol i still do that. :p however i can pass my PRT fine.

[Paradox of Life]

Physical Education requirements aren't high enough.

Too much of America's youth would rather scarf down a double cheeseburger, drink Starbucks and sti on the computer for hours at a time rather than work out.

Disgusting.

You know, even when kids exercise to pass a class, they'll still go home and scarf down cheeseburgers. And if they don't do it now, they will eventually when they are out of school.

I think that physical education shouldn't be as strict as it is now. I watch my weight, I do sports, etc, but I have asthma and depression which both limit my stamina, so it's hard for me to run two miles in 18 minutes which is the requirement to get an A. I can barely even run one.

[forza]

^ You don't see any problem with today's condition? Compare it to 50 years ago. I can guarantee you with great certainty that kids 50 years ago could handle twice as much on their PRT than kids nowadays.

Again, it's a slippery slope.

[cashmere deer]

Those requirements seem a tad off? At my school you're expected to get around seven minutes in the mile if you're a guy and about nine if you're a girl. AND 2 OR 3 PUSHUPS? ARE YOU SERIOUS? That's sad. P.E. is definately an easy A.

[fameONE]

^ you're right. The health problems in this country stem from grade school P.E. Whether people want to believe it or not. And frankly, the health condition in this country is deplorable. It all turns into a slippery slope.

People get out of shape >> people need health care >> people can't work >> the country loses money >> the next generation is screwed.

Agreed.

^ Sometimes it's not the person's fault for not being perfectly fit like everyone else. Some people have such busy schedules that they don't really have time to "get in shape".

There's a huge difference between being disgustingly out of shape and being perfectly fit but there's no excuse for people to be as fat as they are when they can control their physique.

You know, even when kids exercise to pass a class, they'll still go home and scarf down cheeseburgers. And if they don't do it now, they will eventually when they are out of school.

I think that physical education shouldn't be as strict as it is now. I watch my weight, I do sports, etc, but I have asthma and depression which both limit my stamina, so it's hard for me to run two miles in 18 minutes which is the requirement to get an A. I can barely even run one.

Just because you are in good shape doesn't excuse the fact that we are the fattest country on the globe and each generation is fatter than the one before.

^ You don't see any problem with today's condition? Compare it to 50 years ago. I can guarantee you with great certainty that kids 50 years ago could handle twice as much on their PRT than kids nowadays.

Again, it's a slippery slope.

Again; indeed.

[AngelinaTaylor]

There's a huge difference between being disgustingly out of shape and being perfectly fit but there's no excuse for people to be as fat as they are when they can control their physique.

That's true, but I still don't think their grades should depend on it.

[*ECD & C0*]

everyone should get an A

yeah its gym class god

[despite]

OMG! are you kidding me?! everyone passes gym at my school (unless we dont dress out) it is easy, the reasons the standards are how they are is because we live in an obese nation, when it comes down to it, americans are lazy, and I can easily say the same for myself, get out, be more active, and im sure gym will be easier. =)

also i really think you are making it up, the 2 out of 50, maybe 10 only 20 out of 50 dont get A's, or they arent trying cuz trying you should be able to get atleast 90%.

oh wait i just read the last half of your post. and yes atleast half of it should be effort, but also people should be responsible for their strength, but it should be for body type, such as a small frail girl shouldnt be accounted to be as strong as an athletic girl, ect.

[Ington]

That is the most pathetic thing I've ever heard. If you can't live up to that simple curriculum, you deserve to fail, honestly.

As far as I know, no one in my class failed gym because of classwork. Some did because they cut a lot, though.

I say gym should be even more strict. I wouldn't like it either, but they should be more strict. Its becoming necessary. They need to be tougher, and get us to work harder. That way, kids won't grow up fat and disgustingly out of shape, and maybe we'd have a shot at a healthy future. I mean, holy crap. I am disgusted.

[TaintedDesires]

PE is the most hated class in my school because we do lots of running and stretching. The standards of passing that class with an A is too high that only one or two students from the whole class of 50 something people could fulfill.
Push-ups are a killer to all students. Many student's strength aren't strong enough to do 15 push-ups to get an A. Most people could only do 2-3 push-ups.
Running is harsh too. For the mile run, the passing grade is 8 minutes (guys) and 10 minutes (girls). Same thing, almost nobody can make it on time.
Sadly, George W. Bush is the one who set those standards.

Should the standards of PE be a bit lower (or at least based on effort, not how physically strong you are) so that everybody can fulfill it?

An 8 minute mile is a reallly slow time. Most guys in my PE class can do it around 6 minutes. I think PE is the easiest class I've had.

[no-name]

PE is does not affect our GPA where i live. It is a good thing it doesn't because I failed PE 9 twice. Here we are required to only take 2 years of PE after that it is a choice.

[*Libertie*]

Seriously? Where I live, at least, I think PE requirements should be MORE strict. Students aren't even required to take it in order to graduate, in fact.

I agree with BrandonSaunders, PE standards aren't strict enough. There are too many health problems involved with lack of exercise (ask me for a source if you want, but I think that's a pretty obvious statement that I don't need to back up), and I think gym class is good for K-12 students.

Just deal with it and do your best, it could be one of the most important classes you have to take. Be glad your school requires that you take it.

So, if it's mandatory, how can they make sure students attend and participate? Give them a grade, just like in every other class. If they don't show up to class 90% of the time, they get an F. If they sit out almost every day because they're pretending to be sick, they fail. There are so many ridiculous things schools aren't allowed to do now because parents are so freaking protective of their children these days, but come on. Our poor little school children aren't gonna die if they're forced to run a couple laps because they were fifteen minutes late to gym class.

Just suck it up, when you're fifteen minutes late to work you get written up, and your mom can't get you a doctor's note to get you out of that.