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[illyria]

yeah, i'm just wondering when createblog.com became stuck-up. or rather, controlled and administrated by such stuck-up people.

StanleyThePanda Skin Submission Rejected, Sep 22 2005, 10:41 AM

Group: Myspace Staff
Posts: 2,299
Joined: Jul 2004

Hi,
I'm sorry, but your skin submission has been rejected. By all means, this does not mean we hate you, or you're not welcome here, we just feel that the skin doesn't meet our minimum quality standards at this time. Don't be discouraged by this - everyone has to start somewhere. Keep on creating and submitting new skins - all the while refining your skills - and one day, with perseverance, I'm sure we'll see your skins in the database soon enough! 

excuse me but i've been a member since april 2004. and, i don't need to be treated like a child being given "advice" about "one day, with perserverance... [my] skins [will be] in the database." i already have 5 skins in the database. and, the two i submitted were damn good. what? is createblog.com simply an anime skin site now?? you know, some people don't like anime. you would think since the forums are now overflowing with anime layouts, you'd mix it up a bit so other people would have different choices.



okay, granted, this one is a bit plain but, some people like that!! instead of all the cluttered things on some skins, some people just like it simple. you would think that createblog.com would be trying to appeal to EVERYONE not just anime fans.



and this one, maybe it wasn't accepted because it is about gay people and maybe you're a little prejudice towards gay people but, straight, gay, lesbian and bisexual people like queer as folk. it's not necessarily geared towards gay people. it's a really good show with a very big fanbase and again, it should've been approved to try and appeal to everyone's interests.

and that last one is anything but plain. so please do not insult my skins. and do not treat people like children. i used to love this site because everyone was welcome and accepted but, now it's changed. everyone used to be able to submit a skin. if ppl didn't like it... then they didn't have to use it. it's not that difficult of a complex to understand. i strongly suggest that you broaden the horizon of the types of skins you accept. because a skin that you might hate, someone else might absolutely love.

[*mipadi*]

Don't take it so personally--each mod likely give a fairly standard notice when the skin is rejected.

[illyria]

how are you not supposed to take it personally when someone (maybe not directly but indirectly) suggests that they are better than you. or rather their skins. that's definitely personal. thanks for the reply though.

[b0st0ngrl]

Ok, well,
1. They didn't personally write that letter for you. They probably just copy and paste it.
2. They're not all Anime. Seriously. Go look.
3. Just because you've been a member since last April doesn't mean you get special treatment.

[*mipadi*]

how are you not supposed to take it personally when someone (maybe not directly but indirectly) suggests that they are better than you. or rather their skins. that's definitely personal. thanks for the reply though.

I don't think the moderator suggested his were better necessarily--he just rejected your skin. Keep in mind that there's always room for improvement; even if you have been around a long time and have been designed a long time does not mean that your skins are always going to get accepted without question. To me, I feel that the email was polite. It's clearly targeted to new designers, yes, but I'm assuming that the mod probably just sends out the same note to each rejected submitter.

[illyria]

to b0st0ngrl, i wasn't suggesting that since i've been here since last april that i get special treatment. i think mipadi interpreted that right: i was saying that because that's how long i've been making skins. and i'm not saying they're all anime. but a majority of all the skins sumbitted "lately" are anime. it gets boring after a while. but, that's my "personal" opinion. and i think i'd rather have a personal email or rejection rather than the one i got because he made it sound like i'm a new designer and i'm not. and, it also suggested that i've never had a skin submitted and i have. so, it probably bothered me more that it wasn't personal. and for the fact that everyone keeps talking of improvement but how are you supposed to improve if you're not told what needs improvement?? and yes mipadi, you are probably right. that's probably the same rejection letter that they send to everybody. i'm aware of that. i just think it's stupid to sit there and insult the "quality" of your skins but then not tell you why...








thanks for the replies. even if they are to insult me. feedback is feedback.

[starlette]

I like them. And I agree, there are soem skins in the cB database that are not even that good. I don't see why now yours arent getting accepted, when there are some that are the same thing over and over again, and really arent even original. I'd use yours if I used xanga skins :)

[illyria]

I like them. And I agree, there are soem skins in the cB database that are not even that good.  I don't see why now yours arent getting accepted, when there are some that are the same thing over and over again, and really arent even original.  I'd use yours if I used xanga skins :)

thanks for your comment.

[*xcaitlinx*]

i agree with danelle...i don't see what's wrong with your skins.

it seems to me that they rejected your skin based soley(sp?) on the fact that you don't have many posts. eh..maybe i'm wrong, but i'm trying to figure out a reason why they were deleted. maybe you should PM the person who rejected your skins so that you can get a legitimate(sp?) reason as to why they weren't accepted.

[illyria]

i agree with danelle...i don't see what's wrong with your skins.

it seems to me that they rejected your skin based soley(sp?) on the fact that you don't have many posts. eh..maybe i'm wrong, but i'm trying to figure out a reason why they were deleted. maybe you should PM the person who rejected your skins so that you can get a legitimate(sp?) reason as to why they weren't accepted.

i already PMed them but i've yet to receive a reply yet.
thanx for the comment.

[*mzkandi*]

i already PMed them but i've yet to receive a reply yet.
thanx for the comment.

Maybe you should have waited to recieve a reply before posting this.

[b0st0ngrl]

to b0st0ngrl, i wasn't suggesting that since i've been here since last april that i get special treatment. i think mipadi interpreted that right: i was saying that because that's how long i've been making skins. and i'm not saying they're all anime. but a majority of all the skins sumbitted "lately" are anime. it gets boring after a while. but, that's my "personal" opinion. and i think i'd rather have a personal email or rejection rather than the one i got because he made it sound like i'm a new designer and i'm not. and, it also suggested that i've never had a skin submitted and i have. so, it probably bothered me more that it wasn't personal. and for the fact that everyone keeps talking of improvement but how are you supposed to improve if you're not told what needs improvement?? and yes mipadi, you are probably right. that's probably the same rejection letter that they send to everybody. i'm aware of that. i just think it's stupid to sit there and insult the "quality" of your skins but then not tell you why...
thanks for the replies. even if they are to insult me. feedback is feedback.

I didn't mean to insult you, but that's how I interperated what I read. I can't hear the tone of your voice, but when I read it, it sounded different to me than what you were proabably trying to say.

[illyria]

I didn't mean to insult you, but that's how I interperated what I read. I can't hear the tone of your voice, but when I read it, it sounded different to me than what you were proabably trying to say.

lol. that's okay. i know sometimes it comes across differently when you read it then how it was intended. i was just clearing it up on what i really meant.

Maybe you should have waited to recieve a reply before posting this.

i also wanted to get other people's feedback. not just the feedback of the person who rejected the skin. thanks for the suggestion though.

[Spirited Away]

Hi,
I'm sorry, but your skin submission has been rejected. By all means, this does not mean we hate you, or you're not welcome here, we just feel that the skin doesn't meet our minimum quality standards at this time. Don't be discouraged by this - everyone has to start somewhere. Keep on creating and submitting new skins - all the while refining your skills - and one day, with perseverance, I'm sure we'll see your skins in the database soon enough! 

that is the standardized reply for all rejected skins. it's as polite, without sugar coating, as it gets, in my opinion.

i also don't think that it's fair for you to accuse the moderator of not accepting your second skin because it's about gay people. though you said you wanted the opinions of other members, you accused a moderator of discrimination without evidence. no, rejecting your skin alone isn't evidence, not credible evidence.

i like your the image title of your first skin and if you blended the "queer as folk" skin—good job, but the overall look of the layouts are lacking in that they're too plain. I understand that there are people who'd prefer plain, but moderators have the right to be choosy when it comes to accepting skins. after all, it's their job to accept quality skins for the cB public. what "quality" is varies from person to person, moderator to moderator. some mods just don't think "plain" is "quality".

about personalized rejection PMs. that's not a bad idea and if i were submitting a skin—which i've done before—i'd appreciate one, too. But though you may appreciate it, others may not. a lot of people just can't take constructive criticism and will be offended as you are now or even more so. feelings may be hurt. i think all that needs to be done is if someone wants to request a constructive or personalize answer as to why his/her skin was rejected, he/she should pm the moderator who rejected it and wait for an answer.

[illyria]

that is the standardized reply for all rejected skins. it's as polite, without sugar coating, as it gets, in my opinion.

i also don't think that it's fair for you to accuse the moderator of not accepting your second skin because it's about gay people. though you said you wanted the opinions of other members, you accused a moderator of discrimination without evidence. no, rejecting your skin alone isn't evidence, not credible evidence.

i like your the image title of your first skin and if you blended the "queer as folk" skin—good job, but the overall look of the layouts are lacking in that they're too plain. I understand that there are people who'd prefer plain, but moderators have the right to be choosy when it comes to accepting skins. after all, it's their job to accept quality skins for the cB public. what "quality" is varies from person to person, moderator to moderator. some mods just don't think "plain" is "quality".

about personalized rejection PMs. that's not a bad idea and if i were submitting a skin—which i've done before—i'd appreciate one, too. But though you may appreciate it, others may not. a lot of people just can't take constructive criticism and will be offended as you are now or even more so. feelings may be hurt. i think all that needs to be done is if someone wants to request a constructive or personalize answer as to why his/her skin was rejected, he/she should pm the moderator who rejected it and wait for an answer.

you just gave me constructive criticism and i appreciate it. thanks. and i don't think both of my skins are plain but i respect that you think they are. and, even if they were, they're are plently of plain skins that have been accepted and will continue to be accepted. furthermore, about the accusation that my skin wasn't excepted because it's about a gay show, i put "maybe". i didn't say that was the reason. i said that might've been the reason and then gave my reply if that was indeed why it was rejected.

thanx for the feedback

[*digital.fragrance*]

When I submitted my skins today, I got them rejected.... and I"m not complaing about them being rejected, but the manner in which they were. Here they are: (click on the image to visit the sites if you want)




No offense, but I think these are pretty good.... I spent a lot of time... A LOT. I'm not new to submitting, and I'm not asking for special treatment -- I do have a few layouts in the xanga layout section.

When it was rejected, I realized that I hadn't submitted the required 500 x500 screenshots, so I PMed the person and told him that. I explained I had resubmitted it with the required information and more detailed instructions, and that I knew that resubmission was against the rules. I just thought that if I supplied the correct information it could get accepted. I also asked what else could have been wrong so as to do better in the future on other layouts I might submit.

I got this reply: Resubmission is against the rules. period.

Geez.... I didn't mean anything bad. I wish moderators would give a litle more feedback in their PM's, even if it is harsh. I'd learn from that.

[Spirited Away]

you just gave me constructive criticism and i appreciate it. thanks. and i don't think both of my skins are plain but i respect that you think they are. and, even if they were, they're are plently of plain skins that have been accepted and will continue to be accepted. furthermore, about the accusation that my skin wasn't excepted because it's about a gay show, i put "maybe". i didn't say that was the reason. i said that might've been the reason and then gave my reply if that was indeed why it was rejected.
thanx for the feedback

to address the problem of plain skins. if you'll notice, a lot of the more plain skins that were accepted in our database are old ones. they probably date all the way to when you're first joined. i think cB's tastes have become somewhat more refined.

by the way, saying "maybe" doesn't mean the accusation wasn't laid out loud and clear. it was, and that's why i called it an "accusation".

digital.fragrance, i like the first layout a lot though it did take a while to load even with my dsl pro (supposedly same speed as cable). hmm, i wonder why that one's rejected.

[*disco infiltrator*]

1. I highly doubt Kara would have rejected your skin because it was about gay people.
2. Most of the moderators have been designing just as long (if not longer) than you, so I wouldn't be so stuck up about your own skins either.
3. Yes, standards have gotten much tighter since more and more people design and each person keeps getting better. Why not let only those skins we think are exceptional in?
4. Just because our skins aren't of the greatest standard doesn't mean we can't reject skins that also aren't. It's our job to reject skins we don't think are good enough for the current standards, not to judge skins based off of our own ability.
5. We can't personalize the PM. We reject a skin, and it sends it automatically. Sorry. Oh well. We can't do anything about it.

Personally, I would have rejected the first because it looks like a default-layed-out Xanga with altered colors and a banner, pretty much. That's not quite up to par with the many div layouts submitted nowadays, imo.

I can't see the rest of the second so I wouldn't know, but from the looks of it, I would have accepted it.

You can't always expect your skins to get accepted just because you think they're good enough. It's the moderator's choice. If they reject it, then that's too bad. Try to improve it and resubmit it.

I'm sorry for being so blunt, but after modding for over a year, I'm sick of people complaining about their skins being rejected. All of us went through the same thing.

[illyria]

When I submitted my skins today, I got them rejected.... and I"m not complaing about them being rejected, but the manner in which they were.  Here they are: (click on the image to visit the sites if you want)




No offense, but I think these are pretty good.... I spent a lot of time... A LOT.  I'm not new to submitting, and I'm not asking for special treatment -- I do have a few layouts in the xanga layout section.

When it was rejected, I realized that I hadn't submitted the required 500 x500 screenshots, so I PMed the person and told him that.  I explained I had resubmitted it with the required information and more detailed instructions, and that I knew that resubmission was against the rules.  I just thought that if I supplied the correct information it could get accepted.  I also asked what else could have been wrong so as to do better in the future on other layouts I might submit.

I got this reply:  Resubmission is against the rules. period.

Geez.... I didn't mean anything bad.  I wish moderators would give a litle more feedback in their PM's, even if it is harsh.  I'd learn from that.

i think those are really good.

[*digital.fragrance*]

i think those are really good.

Thanks, though I guess it really deosn't matter now...

[*tweeak*]

The first doesn't work for me. That may have something to do with it.

[*digital.fragrance*]

The first doesn't work for me. That may have something to do with it.

It works for me.... but here, this will work. Copy and paste into address bar.
http://xanga.com/dfrikku
http://xanga.com/ysmustang05

[illyria]

1. I highly doubt Kara would have rejected your skin because it was about gay people.
2. Most of the moderators have been designing just as long (if not longer) than you, so I wouldn't be so stuck up about your own skins either.
3. Yes, standards have gotten much tighter since more and more people design and each person keeps getting better. Why not let only those skins we think are exceptional in?
4. Just because our skins aren't of the greatest standard doesn't mean we can't reject skins that also aren't. It's our job to reject skins we don't think are good enough for the current standards, not to judge skins based off of our own ability.
5. We can't personalize the PM. We reject a skin, and it sends it automatically. Sorry. Oh well. We can't do anything about it.

Personally, I would have rejected the first because it looks like a default-layed-out Xanga with altered colors and a banner, pretty much. That's not quite up to par with the many div layouts submitted nowadays, imo.

I can't see the rest of the second so I wouldn't know, but from the looks of it, I would have accepted it.

You can't always expect your skins to get accepted just because you think they're good enough. It's the moderator's choice. If they reject it, then that's too bad. Try to improve it and resubmit it.

I'm sorry for being so blunt, but after modding for over a year, I'm sick of people complaining about their skins being rejected. All of us went through the same thing.

please don't apologize. i like constructive criticism. and honestly, i know the first one is plain and i didn't really expect it to get accepted. but, i didn't really understand why the second one was rejected. but, like you said, it's all up to the moderator so there's nothing i can do about it now. i do feel like creatblog.com used to be nice and cared and now, since there's so many people, everyone's kind of blunt and uncaring. when really, if it wasn't for the users, this site wouldn't be so popular. and i'm not saying accept everyone's skin because that's unrealistic, and i'm sure there can't be a pm sent to everyone who's rejected. it'd just be nice to actually feel like the moderators care. but, maybe they're not supposed to. maybe they're just here to do what their name suggests, moderate. it doesn't mean moderate nicely or moderate like you care about the people so that's fine. i just miss the way it used to be.

and to Spirited Away. an accusation is ACTUALLY ACCUSING SOMEONE OF SOMETHING. i "suggested" that the reason might've been because it was about gay people. having "maybe" in that sentence does not make it an accusation.

to put it in a pretty basic, yet disturbing, example: "when you accuse someone of rape you have to say 'you raped me' for it to be an accusation and for it to be tried in court. you can't say 'maybe you raped me' and have it considered an accusation."

we're bickering over small technicalities here. you think it's an accusation. i don't. i think it was a possible reason of why my skin was rejected. i NEVER ACTUALLY SAID THAT WAS WHY. honestly, i'm sure that it had nothing to do with that, but you never know now-a-days and incase it was, i've already stated my reply. and, i also wanted to let people know that queer as folk is not just a gay/lesbian show. its fanbase includes all kinds of people with different sexual preferences. i wanted to state that as well incase it wasn't approved because someone might've thought it was just directed at gay/lesbian/bi people.

[Spirited Away]

and to Spirited Away. an accusation is ACTUALLY ACCUSING SOMEONE OF SOMETHING. i "suggested" that the reason might've been because it was about gay people. having "maybe" in that sentence does not make it an accusation.

to put it in a pretty basic, yet disturbing, example: "when you accuse someone of rape you have to say 'you raped me' for it to be an accusation and for it to be tried in court. you can't say 'maybe you raped me' and have it considered an accusation."

by the way, saying "maybe" doesn't mean the accusation wasn't laid out loud and clear. it was, and that's why i called it an "accusation".

for example, lets say i got a D on a test. and you saying something like "maybe you should have studied for it" is an accusation that i didn't prepare for it. the "maybe" is trivial and the intent of the response is clear. you may think you're suggesting that I didn't study, but obviously that's the same as accusing me of not studying. i'm sorry if that's not how you meant others to understand it, but that's how i understood it and that's my opinion alone.

using the same example as you:

You: maybe the moderator raped me
Me: are you accusing the moderator of raping you?
You: no I'm just suggesting that he/she may or may not have raped me
Me: if you're not accusing him/her of rape, then why bring it up? Just for fun?
You: no, just for the sake of suggesting
Me: suggesting what? that the moderator raped you? isn't that the same as accusing him/her of raping?

what would be your answer?

and "tried in court" isn't the kind of accusation being discussed. obviously.

seriously though, i wouldn't know if the moderator was actually discriminating your work. i just have faith that he/she wasn't. our mods aren't that immature.

[racoons > you]

can i just observe that this thread really isnt worth the argument it's causing?

unless you intend to leave this open as an example of sorts, then it really does fall under the 'no threads bitching about skin rejection' rule... and as such should be closed...

also, i woul dalso point out that one of those skins took FOREVER to load... it was insanely irksome

[Spirited Away]

don't ruin my fun james.. i haven't been here all that much.


eek. never mind.

edited> WHERE'S ISSUE 4 huh?!?!? huh!??!

This post has been edited by Spirited Away: Sep 22 2005, 05:03 PM

[illyria]

honestly, i'm sure that it had nothing to do with that

i've already stated it probably had nothing to do with the gay thing.
enough with this accusation b.s. opinions on that will vary. so just leave it alone. i know what you believe is an accusation so that's great. thanks for telling me you're opinion. continuing to argue about it is not going to make either one of us right or change each other's opinion. thanks for sharing yours.

[Spirited Away]

i just don't understand. if you think it had NOTHING to do with the rejection.. WHY ON EARTH BRING IT UP in the first place? it seems you're changing your mind now and if you are, never mind about my opinions.

[illyria]

can i just observe that this thread really isnt worth the argument it's causing?

unless you intend to leave this open as an example of sorts, then it really does fall under the 'no threads bitching about skin rejection' rule... and as such should be closed...

also, i woul dalso point out that one of those skins took FOREVER to load... it was insanely irksome

that wasn't necessarily the point of the post. if it was i would have titled it different. i really was talking about how createblog has changed, in my opinion, and how i think it has changed. my skins rejection was just an example of why i think that. if you want to close the post that's fine. do what you have to.

[illyria]

i just don't understand. if you think it had NOTHING to do with the rejection.. WHY ON EARTH BRING IT UP in the first place? it seems you're changing your mind now and if you are, never mind about my opinions. 

you're right. maybe i shouldn't have brought it up at all. i wanted to say all of that stuff about the gay thing, in case that was the reason. but, now it's being interpreted that i'm accusing that i was discriminated against when really that's not what i meant at all... but whatever...

[*digital.fragrance*]

that wasn't necessarily the point of the post. if it was i would have titled it different. i really was talking about how createblog has changed, in my opinion, and how i think it has changed. my skins rejection was just an example of why i think that. if you want to close the post that's fine. do what you have to.

Ditto, illyria... I think the thread is here to point out that perhaps createblog.com needs to offer a little constructive criticism on the subject of rejected skins when asked, like... error in code, innappropriateness in the design, wrong information submitted, plain... etc. Not detailed criticism, but I think we would all like a reason for why our skins were rejected..

[racoons > you]

oh. this is an ACTIVE argument. how exciting

fae, i have no ide awhere issue 4 is, as i stepped down. i dont think anyone noticed me going.

meh.

that wasn't necessarily the point of the post. if it was i would have titled it different. i really was talking about how createblog has changed, in my opinion, and how i think it has changed. my skins rejection was just an example of why i think that. if you want to close the post that's fine. do what you have to.

you didnt do it well.
i just sounded like whining to me.

[illyria]

you didnt do it well.
i just sounded like whining to me.

actually i happen to think i constructed my opinion very maturely. but thanks for sharing your opinion. but that's just what it is, your opinion. frankly, i do not care.

[racoons > you]

^
if my dear, you truly didnt care, you wouldnt have found it necessary to inform us

[illyria]

^
if my dear, you truly didnt care, you wouldnt have found it necessary to inform us

i meant, i don't care about your opinion in particular. guess i should've explained it better for you to understand.

[Gypsy Eyes]

First of all, personalized rejection pms would be insane. So many skins are submitted (30 something is usually a lower number) and it would take way to much time to personalize rejection pms.

Honestly you first skin isn't very good, as someone stated earlier it's plain. However just because you think your skin is good enough and it was rejected is no reason to suggest it was because it involved gay people. Maybe it just wasn't that good.

[*digital.fragrance*]

Okay.... there is too much "bashing" members in here... Let's just state the problem, and discuss our opinions on it.
I think this is beyond just one person's skins being rejected. Maybe it's asking too much for constructive criticism on skins being rejected, but it would be so nice.
For example, I put almost 20 hours into one of mine, to get it rejected with nothing to explain why except for that generic message. I am in no way complaining over my skins being rejected, but I am complaining over the lack of infromation or civility. Does this make sense?

[*mzkandi*]

From both sides of the argument, your points have been taken so just drop already.

[Gypsy Eyes]

that does make sense. if it meant to much you should have pmed a moderator to get a reason. It's happened before, then you could just change what was wrong with it and resubmit

[racoons > you]

i meant, i don't care about your opinion in particular. guess i should've explained it better for you to understand.

i know what you meant.

I think this is beyond just one person's skins being rejected. Maybe it's asking too much for constructive criticism on skins being rejected, but it would be so nice.

child, please. you arent xanga staff. you have NO IDEA the number of skins which get submitted daly, and which have to be rejected. it simply IS NOT POSSIBLE TO GIVE INDIVIDUAL FEEDBACK

[*mzkandi*]

child, please.

ahahaha You reminded me of my mom just there.

[*digital.fragrance*]

child, please. you arent xanga staff. you have NO IDEA the number of skins which get submitted daly, and which have to be rejected. it simply IS NOT POSSIBLE TO GIVE INDIVIDUAL FEEDBACK

I realize that it would be hard... I'm not asking for EXTENSIVE criticism. earlier in this topic, I stated that I replied to the rejection PM asking for feedback and didn't even get my question anwsered. I got "Resubmitting is against the rules. period." ...not exactly nice. At least, if criticism isn't possible on the rejection PM, I think that at least if you replied to the person and saked for criticism, you could get a little something.

[talcumpowder]

It's different if we accept it and you find something wrong. and ask us to fix it. Then, if the admins can't do anything we ask you to resubmit and then we delete the other skin.
But if you submit it, we reject it, and you resubmit it than that's against the rules - no matter the circumstances. Which mod was it, in any case?
[ http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=77054 ]

edit// &your sig is too tall.

[*digital.fragrance*]

It's different if we accept it and you find something wrong. and ask us to fix it. Then, if the admins can't do anything we ask you to resubmit and then we delete the other skin.
But if you submit it, we reject it, and you resubmit it than that's against the rules - no matter the circumstances. Which mod was it, in any case?
[ http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=77054 ]

edit// &your sig is too tall.

I understand the resubmitting thing, and okay, I'll edit my sig. I"ll PM you the name of the mod because I don't want to offend anybody.

[illyria]

i know what you meant.
child, please. you arent xanga staff. you have NO IDEA the number of skins which get submitted daly, and which have to be rejected. it simply IS NOT POSSIBLE TO GIVE INDIVIDUAL FEEDBACK

maybe this is completely impossible and not a good idea but maybe, when submitting a skin, there can be something saying "if your skin is rejected would you like feedback" and then they're can be a yes or no box (default on no) so then if it matters to the person to have a reason they can say so. simply an idea.

oh, and given the fact that you and digital.fragrance are the same age i find it very amusing that you call her a "child" and talk to her like an idiot.

and in response to gypsyeyes, frankly i'm surprised that the minimum is 30. i thought it'd be way more that. and yes, a personal pm to EVERY rejection is indeed insane. but i think the idea i suggested wouldn't be as time-consuming as you think. plus, i would think the createblog staff would want to please the users and offer feedback if that's what they wanted. but, i don't know. maybe not.

[*jooleeah*]

maybe this is completely impossible and not a good idea but maybe, when submitting a skin, there can be something saying "if your skin is rejected would you like feedback" and then they're can be a yes or no box (default on no) so then if it matters to the person to have a reason they can say so. simply an idea.

Xanga staff simply has no time to do that. They have a lot of skins coming in, and don't really have the time to provide feedback to every person who wants it.

[DaTru KataLYST]

This thread is one of the reasons why the feedback forum shouldn't have been created. ;O I'm just so sorry to everyone that I made it happen. Rawr!

Did stanleythepanda's name change?
I hate name changes! <-- hypocrite statement.

[sadolakced acid]

here's a solution: mods can just not tell you if your skin's rejected.

really. it a one-size-fits-all message offends you, i don't see how you can get through life.

[DaTru KataLYST]

here's a solution:  mods can just not tell you if your skin's rejected.

really.  it a one-size-fits-all  message offends you, i don't see how you can get through life.

that was thy early system! the staff continued to receive dozens of PMs about if their skin was rejected or not.

I do believe it was irking the staff, esp if the submitter began PMing 1 hour after they submit the layout! Or worse, right after they submit it! Aiya!

[sadolakced acid]

or, how about a 'rejected skins' catagory, so people can go and say how much they suck or what they need to improve with.

[*digital.fragrance*]

that does make sense. if it meant to much you should have pmed a moderator to get a reason. It's happened before, then you could just change what was wrong with it and resubmit

I did.... and it was rejected again.

[*tweeak*]

holy shit, how did this get to 3 pages?

they use to not send rejection PMs at all. deal with it

[lbjshaq2345]

im just pointin this out but 59 posts doesnt command too much respect with ppl in the thousands

[xklipse]

^I think so too, especially the 2nd one. But when first I sent mine, they're aren't 500x500 though...

[demolished]

^
That would be interesting !

[illyria]

im just pointin this out but 59 posts doesnt command too much respect with ppl in the thousands

lol. so basically, i should "respect" people who have more posts than me? honey, just because i don't post as much as everyone else doesn't mean anything. i have refered a lot of people to this site when they were looking for quality skins (which apparently i'm incapable of making now) and i've been around for a long time. i'm not going to respect someone simply because they have more posts than me. what an idiotic suggestion. i respect someone for what they say or believe in, or what they do. not because of how many posts they've accumulated. and this further proves my point that a lot of people are so stuck up now. having more posts does not make you better. it also shouldn't earn you more respect like you suggest. respect needs to be based on other qualities. more important qualities. and, everyone's, and i mean EVERYONE'S, opinion matters. just because people have more posts doesn't mean their opinion matters more. and just because i'm a full-time college student and work 35 hours a week and don't have time to get on here everyday and post random comments, do not insult me. we're all the same and how many posts we have doesn't measure how much we should be respected.

[illyria]

I was here in April 2004 too but I already submitted about 20 layouts and some were rejected but I still tried. Maybe you just need to make more and keep trying. That's what I did...

thanks for the suggestion. i appreciate it.

[Spirited Away]

lol.    so basically, i should "respect" people who have more posts than me? honey, just because i don't post as much as everyone else doesn't mean anything. i have refered a lot of people to this site when they were looking for quality skins (which apparently i'm incapable of making now) and i've been around for a long time. i'm not going to respect someone simply because they have more posts than me. what an idiotic suggestion. i respect someone for what they say or believe in, or what they do. not because of how many posts they've accumulated. and this further proves my point that a lot of people are so stuck up now. having more posts does not make you better. it also shouldn't earn you more respect like you suggest. respect needs to be based on other qualities. more important qualities. and, everyone's, and i mean EVERYONE'S, opinion matters. just because people have more posts doesn't mean their opinion matters more. and just because i'm a full-time college student and work 35 hours a week and don't have time to get on here everyday and post random comments, do not insult me. we're all the same and how many posts we have doesn't measure how much we should be respected.

i don't think he meant it that way. the member tried to state his opinion as a fact that others will respect you if you have a lot of posts, which is false. erm, he's not saying that you should respect those who have more posts than you.

lbjshaq2345, everyone was a newbie with few posts to account for. it's how you present yourself that commands respect.

[illyria]

i don't think he meant it that way. the member tried to state his opinion as a fact that others will respect you if you have a lot of posts, which is false. erm, he's not saying that you should respect those who have more posts than you. 

lbjshaq2345, everyone was a newbie with few posts to account for. it's how you present yourself that commands respect.

thank you. you actually said something i agree with.

[yellowgurl]

your skins are fine.. actually i quite like them.. especially the plainer ones.. im a big fan of less cluttery ones.

[KissMe2408]

Hmm....
Although I don't see anything exactly "wrong" with your layouts, I am no expert, and i am not on the staff that accepts or declines them

So even though your layouts weren't accepted for the database, you still need to be respectful of the people who look over them and be respectful of the staff's judgement. Because they probably have alot more experience in that area of work then you do. You said in one of your posts, "i respect someone for what they say or believe in, or what they do." ok, if that is true, Then Respect the staff for doing their job.

when you make up a topic calling the staff member and administrators "Stuck up" it doesn't come off good, and it makes you look worse. Also, it doesn't matter WHEN you join createblog. Or how many posts you have. That doesn't show the degree of talent you have or your maturity level. As you can see.

If you don't learn how to take rejection (rejection that isn't even personal!) how will you succeed? "i'm a full time college student and work 35 hours a week" you said. Ok, so do you do this to your professors everytime they don't like your paper, or do you treat the people you work with like this because they don't agree with you? Wherever you go in life, whatever you do, at one point or another someone is going to reject your work. It happens. Yes. And you should know that by now.

Createblog has many layouts that aren't anime by the way. SInce you've been here since "April 2004" you should know that by now.

yes, i think ur skins up there are very nice. But they weren't accepted, i'm sorry. Hold your head up high, and keep trying. Keep learning and improving your talent. Don't sulk in a corner and call everyone "stuck up". Learn from this.

[micron]

sorry for the late reply. on the next rewrite of cb, ill include a custom rejection letter. also planning to make the accept/reject process more team oriented, where skins need 3 votes to be accepted or rejected. this way we "even out" personal biases.

thanks for all the great feedback! since i think the topic served its purpose, im going to close it.