school uniforms Options

[ComradeRed]

lol

[rnrn897]

i think only in schools that are havng huge clothing problems...
like ppl consistently wearing weird stuff...yea..

[EmeraldKnight]

i think only in schools that are havng huge clothing problems...
like ppl consistently wearing weird stuff...yea..

Define "weird".

Weirdness is entirely based on perspective.. the type of clothing that one person likes to wear may be decreed "weird" by another and vice versa.. so how could you determine which schools?

[jarnifer]

after wearing uniforms for 5 years...

i actually think no matter how "hideous" the uniform may be, people do eventually get used to it...

and really, it DOES eliminate a lot of problems (i.e. worrying about what to wear the next day, do i look "cool" enough, buying clothes ALL the time, comparing...)

of coz, people can still compare while wearing uniforms but then it is much less of a hassle.

And praise the Lord that I don't hafta see girls wear barely visible skirts or guys wearing pants that are like bed sheets...all the time (we have monthly dress down days)

[EmeraldKnight]

after wearing uniforms for 5 years...

i actually think no matter how "hideous" the uniform may be, people do eventually get used to it...

and really, it DOES eliminate a lot of problems (i.e. worrying about what to wear the next day, do i look "cool" enough, buying clothes ALL the time, comparing...)

of coz, people can still compare while wearing uniforms but then it is much less of a hassle.

And praise the Lord that I don't hafta see girls wear barely visible skirts or guys wearing pants that are like bed sheets...all the time (we have monthly dress down days)

EXACTLY.. Thanks a lot, we realli needed a perspective from another person that's worn uniforms

[ichiban]

If what we wear isn't harming anyone, whats the need fer uniforms?

[Spirited Away]

If what we wear isn't harming anyone, whats the need fer uniforms?

What you wear may not be bothering anyone, but what the person next to you is wearing, may.

[ComradeRed]

So why should we pass laws restricting EVERYONE as opposed to just those who are doing the harming?

We only pass laws to prohibit shooting PEOPLE, not shooting in general, for the same reason.

[Spirited Away]

So why should we pass laws restricting EVERYONE as opposed to just those who are doing the harming?

We only pass laws to prohibit shooting PEOPLE, not shooting in general, for the same reason.

Shooting people kill.

Wearing uniforms to school do not kill, or at least I've never heard of a case where a student would kill another person because he/she is wearing a uniform.

[SarahxJoy]

Adults say that uniforms are good, because then kids won't be judged. But either way, even if you take away the part of be critiscized because of your clothing attired, kids always find another way to put you down.


If I was going to be put down and made fun of, I'd rather be treated like that in my OWN, comfortable, clothes, not uniforms..what happened to self-expression?

[Spirited Away]

Pfft, if uniforms are going to hinder "self-expression" then I'd say you're not very expressive nor creative. If it comes down to kids wanting to kill themselves because they're not creative or if they're in depression because uniforms make them uncool, then I'd go back to normal clothes.

[i ami_am]

lets not have any clothes!!!!! like in school if your school has or hasnt uniforms you hafta write an essay about it!!!!! i written like 10!

[EmeraldKnight]

lets not have any clothes!!!!! like in school if your school has or hasnt uniforms you hafta write an essay about it!!!!! i written like 10! 

What the heck? I dont understand what you said beyond the not have clothes part..

Pfft, if uniforms are going to hinder "self-expression" then I'd say you're not very expressive nor creative. If it comes down to kids wanting to kill themselves because they're not creative or if they're in depression because uniforms make them uncool, then I'd go back to normal clothes.

It does partially limit "self-expression", there are many other ways to express yourself..

So why should we pass laws restricting EVERYONE as opposed to just those who are doing the harming?

We only pass laws to prohibit shooting PEOPLE, not shooting in general, for the same reason.

So you suggest just making the offending people wear uniforms as punishment?

And like uninspiredfae mentioned.. shooting people is a lot more severe than uniforms..

[sadolakced acid]

uniforms are rarely in good taste.

i'm not sure, but uniforms don't seem like good clothes... nothing i'd want to wear. they'd be the same for everyone, and you can't changed it.

[EmeraldKnight]

uniforms are rarely in good taste.

i'm not sure, but uniforms don't seem like good clothes... nothing i'd want to wear. they'd be the same for everyone, and you can't changed it. 

Well "good taste" is a matter of opinion

Why would they not be good clothes besides the fact that you may not be too fond of their appearance?

[jarnifer]

if people wear uniforms then it'll be ONE LESS WAY for others to judge you...

well, for one thing...when you meet a new person...you or the other person wouldn't be worrying if you look "cool" enough or attractive enough or whatever...

and i don't think you would like it if others judged you based on ur appearance, esp. ur clothes...

[EmeraldKnight]

if people wear uniforms then it'll be ONE LESS WAY for others to judge you...

well, for one thing...when you meet a new person...you or the other person wouldn't be worrying if you look "cool" enough or attractive enough or whatever

Exactly, good point.

and i don't think you would like it if others judged you based on ur appearance, esp. ur clothes...

*Sigh* Sadly enough.. too much of society's based on superficial judgments.. more often than not, people see the person outside rather than the person inside..

[ComradeRed]

Shooting people kill.

Wearing uniforms to school do not kill, or at least I've never heard of a case where a student would kill another person because he/she is wearing a uniform.

You miss the point.

Your observation: Wearing indecent clothes hurts people.
My observation: Shooting people hurts people.
Your argument: Therefore, we should have uniforms.
My argument: That is like saying, we should ban guns because some people use them to kill people. A better solution is to just target those who do dress indecently, instead of targeting everyone.

[Spirited Away]

You miss the point.

Your observation: Wearing indecent clothes hurts people.
My observation: Shooting people hurts people.
Your argument: Therefore, we should have uniforms.
My argument: That is like saying, we should ban guns because some people use them to kill people. A better solution is to just target those who do dress indecently, instead of targeting everyone.

My argument: "Wearing indecent clothes hurts people, therefore we should have uniforms" was only to oppose the argument that people will find other ways to judge each other in or out of unifoms, as someone has said.

With your argument, I would have to say that targeting only those who dress indecently is not enough. But lets say that it is, how, then, do we regulate/enforce that?

[sadolakced acid]

schools sole purpose is to serve the kids, to teach them.

why should the kids be the ones in the uniforms?

tell me one buisness where the customer has to wear a uniform.

[Spirited Away]

schools sole purpose is to serve the kids, to teach them.

why should the kids be the ones in the uniforms?

tell me one buisness where the customer has to wear a uniform.

Hmm, I wouldn't say that a school is like a business, would you? Well, obviously you do. But if you think that way then I guess I have nothing more to say, that I would still very much hope to have uniforms in school . If I'm paying for my children's education, then I better get the results I want, business wise.

[sadolakced acid]

but you see, the kids are the 'customers' without the students, the school would not suceed.

you're stressing that uniforms promote cleanliness, and other stuff
but a strict dress code could do that.

and about the worrying what you have to wear, if you don't likie to think about what to wear and would rather someone else make decisions for you, then you go do that.

[Spirited Away]

but you see, the kids are the 'customers'  without the students, the school would not suceed.

Students don't usually pay for their own education, unless they're in college. Parents are the paying customers, it should lie in the parents to make decisions regarding uniforms or no.

you're stressing that uniforms promote cleanliness, and other stuff
but a strict dress code could do that. 

How strict is strict? We could compromise.

and about the worrying what you have to wear, if you don't likie to think about  what to wear and would rather someone else make decisions for you, then you go do that.

Sure, I've done it before.

[abstracted]

you're stressing that uniforms promote cleanliness, and other stuff
but a strict dress code could do that.

Strict dress codes won't do it. That's supposing that everyone will follow it. My high school is trying to get more and more dress codes through. They even started a rule that students cannot wear all black--I guess that was supposed to stop the goths. But, it doesn't always work.

I've had to wear uniforms for two years, when I lived in India. And, it makes a difference. Of course, there's always that odd day when everyone can wear whatever he or she wants (in dress code). But, in general, it ends several problems.

and about the worrying what you have to wear, if you don't likie to think about what to wear and would rather someone else make decisions for you, then you go do that.

It's not making the decision that's the problem--it's wondering whether or not what you choose to wear will be 'right for you' the next day. With uniforms, you just wear the same thing without worrying if you already wore that shirt, or if someone had said that your jeans were horrible, or something. I mean, sure, uniforms tend to look...ugly. But, it makes things a LOT easier.

Self-expression??
That shouldn't have much to do with clothes, really! Express yourself through other things. Other clothes, while 'self-expressing', can give a different image. People tend to judge you by what you wear. If everyone wears the same thing, no one would care what you wore.

And...there's absolutely no way that you'll get the 'guilty kids' to wear uniforms, while everyone else wears whatever they want. That's just the perfect way to single those kids out just because they wore a short skirt or a pair of jeans ten sizes too big.

[Spirited Away]

^^ Yes, that's what I've been trying to tell these people. Haha Good job.