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Your Religion, What is your religion?
ilauqh
post Jan 1 2006, 10:56 PM
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I'm Roman Catholic but I think that the Catholic's are pretty strict with being against a lot of things and people while they also say that God doesn't judge anyone. But I don't know.. Maybe I'll convert to Protestant when I'm older. ermm.gif
 
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post Jan 1 2006, 11:22 PM
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Proud Catholic.
 
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post Jan 1 2006, 11:22 PM
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Catholic.
 
Babi3xFoOlish
post Jan 1 2006, 11:41 PM
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im a christian
 
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post Jan 2 2006, 04:26 AM
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just half a million other hispanics...guess what people...i fit the stereotype...im catholic
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post Jan 2 2006, 02:02 PM
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im sikh, from india, live in the states now
 
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post Jan 2 2006, 02:02 PM
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i`m christian.
 
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post Jan 2 2006, 02:08 PM
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post Jan 2 2006, 03:06 PM
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I'm also Buddhist, part of the sect of Sanmitsu Shugendo.
 
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post Jan 2 2006, 03:12 PM
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my family's catholic, but i don't of myself as that anymore. don't really consider myself anything cuz religion isn't one of my things anymore but i guess you could say im atheist
 
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post Jan 2 2006, 03:47 PM
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I'm Roman Catholic
 
31miracles
post Jan 2 2006, 04:04 PM
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ghetto is part of my religion...
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post Jan 2 2006, 06:19 PM
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I'm non-religious, atheist.
 
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post Jan 2 2006, 08:57 PM
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Nadroj Inc.
post Jan 3 2006, 01:13 AM
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FoxBandCutie08
post Jan 3 2006, 04:29 PM
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My religion is agnostic. I don't believe in any "higher power" when you die, be that heaven or hell.
 
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post Jan 3 2006, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE(FoxBandCutie08 @ Jan 3 2006, 4:29 PM)
My religion is agnostic. I don't believe in any "higher power" when you die, be that heaven or hell.
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... agnosticism isn't religion. mellow.gif
 
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post Jan 3 2006, 09:50 PM
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Also, neither heaven nor hell are powers, much less higher. They are places. That's why you can go there.
 
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post Jan 3 2006, 09:57 PM
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Yes, I know agnosticism isn't a religion, but that's already been stated in here and many other people have put this. It is already known.

In "higher power", I mean along the lines of God and Satan, people who are the leaders or heaven and hell.

Sorry for not being more complete in my first entry.
 
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post Jan 4 2006, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Jan 1 2006, 9:54 PM)
I did not say that agnostics cannot be theist or atheist, I said, in short, that agnostics do not have to be categorized as theist or atheist because many of them are unsure of either. I, myself, am atheist sometimes, and theist at random. It makes sense to me that God created the universe and it also make sense that there isn't a God and that the universe came to be on its own. Will you elaborate more about why I must be atheist or theist? Agnosticism is an epistemological position and the consequence does not contend that an agonostic must be theist or atheist.

You defined, in your article, that agnosticism, in layman's term, is without knowledge, yet you force agnostics to have knowledge of whether they are theist or atheist with no in-betweens. Does this not defeats the concept of agnosticism altogether? Hmm, I understand that there is a case of weak and strong agnosticism that may define agnostic theist and agnostic atheist, but it seems you don't think belief in between the two can exist.

Also, within the full context of the short quote you took from Huxley, agnostics can accept that which can be proven to be true. Agnostic theists then, have probable cause to believe that a god may exist and this may be proven and the opposite is true for agnostic atheists. But what of agnostics who do not have probable cause for either?  ermm.gif
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The Law of the Excluded Middle
The Principle of Bivalence
The Law of Noncontradiction
 
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post Jan 4 2006, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Jan 4 2006, 3:47 PM)
Three things:
The Law of the Excluded Middle
The Principle of Bivalence
The Law of Noncontradiction
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Could the proposition be undecidable?
 
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post Jan 4 2006, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE(mipadi @ Jan 4 2006, 3:54 PM)
Could the proposition be undecidable?
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With the propositions we are considering. I don't believe so. Given that it is belief towards an existential question. It seems you either do or don't. If you do, it's true that you believe and false that you don't. If it's false that you believe, it must be true that you don't.

I think people still have a problem with the idea that being an atheist somehow means that you are making a positive affirmation that no god, whatsoever, could ever exist. This is not what atheism is. That is a far too narrow definition. I'm an atheist, I don't believe in God. However, I still believe that there is a minimal possibility that a god could exist. This does not make anything but an atheist. I still do not believe in any gods.
 
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post Jan 4 2006, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Jan 4 2006, 4:00 PM)
With the propositions we are considering. I don't believe so. Given that it is belief towards an existential question. It seems you either do or don't. If you do, it's true that you believe and false that you don't. If it's false that you believe, it must be true that you don't.
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What proposition are we considering? Is it "Do you believe in a god?" or "Do you believe the existence of a god is knowable?" And is everyone on the same page with this selection?
 
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post Jan 4 2006, 04:20 PM
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Well, the proposition would be: "You believe in God."

I'm sure everyone would be on the same page with the selection. To apply this to the laws I presented earlier. Imagine that "You believe in god." is P.

So, under these laws it is true that (P or not-P)
It is also true that P is either ture or false, not both.
It is also true that if P is true, then not-P is false.
If not-P is true, then P is false.

Note also that when I say "god," I mean any religious representation of a higher power or spiritual interpretation of above.

Babies are atheists. Cute ones, sometimes.
 
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post Jan 4 2006, 08:24 PM
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QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Jan 4 2006, 3:47 PM)
Three things:
The Law of the Excluded Middle
The Principle of Bivalence
The Law of Noncontradiction
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Only Black and White, no Grays. Hmm. In that logic, my friend, can you explain how it is that I am both theist and atheist at random? It's alright if you say because it is illogical, but I need an explanation as to why it would be.

Those laws, while applicable to facts and mathematics, do not always apply to decisions based on feelings or take into consideration of the human condition among other things.

Allow me to use an off-topic, completely made-up, example of income. Lets say that my family of five make $24,000 a year and to be qualified for government assistance for low-income families my family must make $23,500 or less for a household of five. That means my family doesn't fit the bill because we're off by $500. If the world operates with just black and white and no shades in between according to the laws you presented in this discussion, wouldn't you say that my family just got screwed?

According to the laws, because my family makes $24K, we obviously do not make $23.5K and shouldn't be qualified. Right? But what of proximity to $23.5k? That should be ignored?
 

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