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post Jun 29 2004, 06:42 PM
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QUOTE(the_overachiever @ Jun 29 2004, 6:40 PM)
nono you guys. i didn`t write it.

I'm sure they're aware of it... I think they meant "good job" for bringing up the topic.
 
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post Jun 29 2004, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 29 2004, 6:42 PM)
I'm sure they're aware of it... I think they meant "good job" for bringing up the topic.

oOo okay.
 
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post Jun 29 2004, 06:45 PM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 29 2004, 7:42 PM)
I'm sure they're aware of it... I think they meant "good job" for bringing up the topic.

Yes, this is all over the internet and cB.
 
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post Jun 29 2004, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE(waccoon @ Jun 29 2004, 6:45 PM)
Yes, this is all over the internet and cB.

well, i`ve been a member for two days.
so i wouldn`t know. ermm.gif
 
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post Jun 29 2004, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE(the_overachiever @ Jun 29 2004, 6:46 PM)
well, i`ve been a member for two days.
so i wouldn`t know. ermm.gif

Don't worry about it.

But do you have anything more to add to the topic or questions for the responses?
 
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post Jun 29 2004, 06:52 PM
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none for now.
everybody (including me) is too stubborn to change their views.

but it would be interesting to have a chat room about this, no?
 
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post Jun 29 2004, 06:55 PM
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very...I LOVE DEBATES..anyways, i really think people should open their minds up, who is to say what is true and what is false on this Earth. it takes faith.
 
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QUOTE(the_overachiever @ Jun 29 2004, 6:52 PM)
none for now.
everybody (including me) is too stubborn to change their views.

Haha, so true. If you would look through the debate forum, there was a topic entitled "god" that lasted for more than 50 pages.

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but it would be interesting to have a chat room about this, no?


I don't think so, there shouldn't be anything chatting can do to that simple posts cannot. Erm, but I guess you can convince me of otherwise.

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it takes faith.


Faith, and respect for other faiths.
 
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post Jun 29 2004, 07:01 PM
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Faith, and respect for other faiths.


yep totally agree.
 
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post Jun 29 2004, 07:14 PM
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that was good! i dont have time to read all the comments right now, will edit later
 
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post Jun 29 2004, 08:12 PM
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LOL yeah that was gud...
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"Have you ever felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelt your Jesus. In fact, do you have any sensory perception of your God whatsoever?"

I feel Him everyday....when ppl hug u...it is like Jesus hugging u
when i eat the food God has provided, i taste Jesus...ALSO the Sacrement..the Body and Blood I eat and drink on Sundays and whenever we have Communion...I taste Jesus...so i think that IS sensory perception...but...we dunt need that to know He's real...yeah that 1st guy should have come to cb first
 
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post Jun 30 2004, 10:40 AM
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the most popular answer anytime i ask, can you see god?

people reply "can you see the wind"

no, but you can feel the wind. you and feel it on your skin.



anyways, evil is not the abscence of good. for those who have never felt pure evil, it is easy for them to say it is. but it's not. no, evil is something far greater in numbers. good is greater in strength.

do i belive? i don't know. i'm buddhist.

so, i ask you this:

1. if god is perfect, and god created everything, then why is what he created flawed?

2. the student (2nd one) failed to adress why god refuses to help people hurt, wounded, exc.

3. if the professer had asked the student, how many times has science saved your life? probably lots of times. maybe you needed a C section to be born. maybe you broke your bone once. maybe you had a bad infection that pennicilin cured.
science has saved million.
how many does god save?

4. you say god is just, exc. wel, i have asked people. and according to the bible, a completely good person who's only fault is they don't belive in god, they would burn for eternity, whereas the completely evil mass murderer repents 5 seconds before his death and gets baptise, he goes to heaven?
what kind of twisted god is this?

haha. i think i'll take a christianity class in college, just for the heck of it.
argue with the professor every day. ha.
 
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post Jun 30 2004, 12:37 PM
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i didnt like the story sorry.... but if the professors a preacher than so is the Christian child.... i dislike preachers.... but anyway im christian but i dont believe in the Christian theory what so ever.... and im not athiest
 
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post Jun 30 2004, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 30 2004, 10:40 AM)
the most popular answer anytime i ask, can you see god?

people reply "can you see the wind"

no, but you can feel the wind. you and feel it on your skin.



anyways, evil is not the abscence of good. for those who have never felt pure evil, it is easy for them to say it is. but it's not. no, evil is something far greater in numbers. good is greater in strength.

do i belive? i don't know. i'm buddhist.

so, i ask you this:

1. if god is perfect, and god created everything, then why is what he created flawed?

2. the student (2nd one) failed to adress why god refuses to help people hurt, wounded, exc.

3. if the professer had asked the student, how many times has science saved your life? probably lots of times. maybe you needed a C section to be born. maybe you broke your bone once. maybe you had a bad infection that pennicilin cured.
science has saved million.
how many does god save?

4. you say god is just, exc. wel, i have asked people. and according to the bible, a completely good person who's only fault is they don't belive in god, they would burn for eternity, whereas the completely evil mass murderer repents 5 seconds before his death and gets baptise, he goes to heaven?
what kind of twisted god is this?

haha. i think i'll take a christianity class in college, just for the heck of it.
argue with the professor every day. ha.

ok so i started to defend this and then realized this isnt the place, copy n paste this in the God topic n we can answer _smile.gif
 
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post Jun 30 2004, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 30 2004, 10:40 AM)
the most popular answer anytime i ask, can you see god?

people reply "can you see the wind"

no, but you can feel the wind. you and feel it on your skin.



anyways, evil is not the abscence of good. for those who have never felt pure evil, it is easy for them to say it is. but it's not. no, evil is something far greater in numbers. good is greater in strength.

do i belive? i don't know. i'm buddhist.

so, i ask you this:

1. if god is perfect, and god created everything, then why is what he created flawed?

2. the student (2nd one) failed to adress why god refuses to help people hurt, wounded, exc.

3. if the professer had asked the student, how many times has science saved your life? probably lots of times. maybe you needed a C section to be born. maybe you broke your bone once. maybe you had a bad infection that pennicilin cured.
science has saved million.
how many does god save?

4. you say god is just, exc. wel, i have asked people. and according to the bible, a completely good person who's only fault is they don't belive in god, they would burn for eternity, whereas the completely evil mass murderer repents 5 seconds before his death and gets baptise, he goes to heaven?
what kind of twisted god is this?

haha. i think i'll take a christianity class in college, just for the heck of it.
argue with the professor every day. ha.

eh im buddhist too. im confused dont we believe in a universal being (God)? hurmmmmm im not sure im a hardcore buddhist but i believe in God and that Buddha is a messenger of God. im so confused.
 
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post Jun 30 2004, 09:10 PM
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i'm not hard core buddhist either

but i do know this

christianity says all other religions suck
and buddhism says that other religions are just different interperetations of the same one. that they're all correct, in a way.

also, i hate it when people start preaching to me, people who try to "spread god's word" to me.

"i have my own religion, thank you very much, i don't need yours" except i'm meaner about it, so it come s out more like this, "_expletive deleted_ christians. leave your _expletive deleted_ missionary stuff in the church. i like my religion. _expletive deleted_ get away from me. ...

haha. well. i'm also trouble by jesus freaks.
 
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post Jun 30 2004, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 30 2004, 9:10 PM)
i'm not hard core buddhist either

but i do know this

christianity says all other religions suck
and buddhism says that other religions are just different interperetations of the same one. that they're all correct, in a way.

also, i hate it when people start preaching to me, people who try to "spread god's word" to me.

"i have my own religion, thank you very much, i don't need yours" except i'm meaner about it, so it come s out more like this, "_expletive deleted_ christians. leave your _expletive deleted_ missionary stuff in the church. i like my religion. _expletive deleted_ get away from me. ...

haha. well. i'm also trouble by jesus freaks.

haha thank u.... i agree with every word u said
 
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post Jun 30 2004, 09:47 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 30 2004, 9:10 PM)
i'm not hard core buddhist either

but i do know this

christianity says all other religions suck
and buddhism says that other religions are just different interperetations of the same one. that they're all correct, in a way.

also, i hate it when people start preaching to me, people who try to "spread god's word" to me.

"i have my own religion, thank you very much, i don't need yours" except i'm meaner about it, so it come s out more like this, "_expletive deleted_ christians. leave your _expletive deleted_ missionary stuff in the church. i like my religion. _expletive deleted_ get away from me. ...

haha. well. i'm also trouble by jesus freaks.

if u dunt like the Christian theology, ok. but plz notice that u r making a judgement and i think u r making one b4 u even look past 1 layer of the theology, b/c if u had, ur reaction wuld be differant...also, that is bashing my religion. its offensive, so please keep ur offensive comments to urself and dont post them here. _smile.gif
 
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post Jun 30 2004, 09:58 PM
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QUOTE(princess2113 @ Jun 30 2004, 9:47 PM)
if u dunt like the Christian theology, ok. but plz notice that u r making a judgement and i think u r making one b4 u even look past 1 layer of the theology, b/c if u had, ur reaction wuld be differant...also, that is bashing my religion. its offensive, so please keep ur offensive comments to urself and dont post them here. _smile.gif

He isn't bashing your religion much, Princess, he's bashing the people who serve under the religion.

I would say that you were offending other faiths in the "god" topic when you said that there is only one God.

There are two sides to every story, we know about yours, let us hear others tell theirs.
 
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 30 2004, 9:58 PM)
He isn't bashing your religion much, Princess, he's bashing the people who serve under the religion.

I would say that you were offending other faiths in the "god" topic when you said that there is only one God.

There are two sides to every story, we know about yours, let us hear others tell theirs.

He is, b/c when when we serve under our religion, we are representing the morals of our religion...so part of our religion

No, i was stating a fact, he is stating his opinion, yes i know u say "how do u know its a fact" my answer is u can wait n see if u want but ur not gonna be happy if u do..and ALSO it doesnt matter if i offended them, i stopped doing that n i asked him nicely not to bash my religion...AND this isnt the place for this to be going on just btw so they can tell their side of the story, w/o saying we suck so thank u very much
 
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QUOTE(princess2113 @ Jun 30 2004, 10:25 PM)
He is, b/c when when we serve under our religion, we are representing the morals of our religion...so part of our religion

Do you speak for every Christian? I should hope not because I know Christians who are down right hypocrites and do the opposite of whatever morality their religion upholds. If you speak for all Christians, then Christianity is a very problematic religion.

Now, in the circumstance that you do not speak for everyone of your faith, he is only bashing Christians who claim to "represent" Christians' morals and then do bad things. If you're not part of that group, then his taunts shouldn't bother you.


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No, i was stating a fact, he is stating his opinion, yes i know u say "how do u know its a fact" my answer is u can wait n see if u want but ur not gonna be happy if u do..and ALSO it doesnt matter if i offended them, i stopped doing that n i asked him nicely not to bash my religion...

Non-believers see the Bible as a book of fiction, therefore your "facts" are naught but untruths to non-believers. Call it whatever you want, but like I've said, right and wrong is based on perspective when we talk about religion. I've heard plenty of self-righteous Christians who say that I believe in the "wrong" things and that I would suffer for it. I usually respond with a "Thanks for the heads up, genius" and walk away, but I'll tell you now that I get offended by such remarks. Everyone bashes other people, I remember you and I were in the same situation a while back about religion.

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AND this isnt the place for this to be going on just btw so they can tell their side of the story, w/o saying we suck so thank u very much

I don't understand that sentence. You mean that this isn't the place to be hearing two sides of the story? That strikes me as... odd... very odd.
 
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ok first off tat prof. was a doooosh. he probably made that little christian boy cry.

the professor's mind does exist. they heard it because he speaks his mind, and i read it so i can see it.

as for bashing religions... theres nothing i hate more than people telling me i'm going to hell and i'm wrong. is that not bashing my religion? the morals of christianty are fine with me, but the bigotry is what gets me vexed. how many people have tried to convert me to judism? islam? buddhism? wicca? etc? no one. christians are almost imperialistic with their views and i disagree with it.

i admire uninspiredfae. she's christian but respects other faiths for what they are and how they benefit their followers. the way it ought to be, if you ask me.

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anyways, evil is not the abscence of good. for those who have never felt pure evil, it is easy for them to say it is. but it's not. no, evil is something far greater in numbers. good is greater in strength.


tru dat. evil is powerful and very very real. to me, anyway.

just like jesus is real to whoever said they feel him in every hug (sorry i can'te remember your name). i don'e feel jesus at all anywhere. however, i do hear, feel and see evil in every dirty look, insult, punch, kick, anything out of spite.

i don't know if their's anything i forgot to address.
 
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I don't understand that sentence. You mean that this isn't the place to be hearing two sides of the story? That strikes me as... odd... very odd.

no but i never said that u suck b/c u didnt believe in God, therefor same goes for that guy he shuldnt say we suck b/c we DO believe in God...and yes, by saying Christianity sucks, he says Christians suck b/c we are a model of our faith
 
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well, i'm only bashing those why try to convert people too much.

no other religion tries to make everyone in the world that religion this way.

i see what people say, that it's god's work and all. but i really do not like christianity's intolerance of other religions, and other things.

christianity, to me, is a very intolerant religion.

it is quite offending when christians(some) say my religion is sh*t. but they do. they say i will burn. they say that they are the only right ones.

wouldn't that bother everyone?

well, i take it that "that guy" isn't me, as i didn't say christianity sucks. at least, not out loud i don't think.
christianity only sucks when someone stars shoving a cross in my face and start trying to convert me.
 
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 1 2004, 1:29 PM)
well, i'm only bashing those why try to convert people too much. 

no other religion tries to make everyone in the world that religion this way. 

i see what people say, that it's god's work and all.  but i really do not like christianity's intolerance of other religions, and other things. 

christianity, to me, is a very intolerant religion. 

it is quite offending when christians(some) say my religion is sh*t.  but they do.  they say i will burn.  they say that they are the only right ones. 

wouldn't that bother everyone? 

well, i take it that "that guy" isn't me, as i didn't say christianity sucks.  at least, not out loud i don't think. 
christianity only sucks when someone stars shoving a cross in my face and start trying to convert me.

u said ur Buddhist? im Christian n ive been to like 1000 Buddhist parties, religious "worship" things i dunno what u call it...etc...i dont have a prob. w/ other religions i just dont believe it so i think u are judging all Christians based on a few u know and THAT is offensive in itself
 

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