you can't have it both ways! |
Debate Rules
Here are the general forum rules that you must follow before you start any debate topics. Please make sure you've read and followed all directions.
- Topics are not to bash others.
- Immature behaviors/comments will not be tolerated.
- Please remember, not everyone thinks like you. People have different ways of thinking and different perspectives. Let's respect each other's thoughts and responses.
- PLEASE, search before making new topics--especially popular topics like "God" and "Abortion" etc.
- PLEASE, read through the thread or at least a couple pages before posting. We have to maintain a certain level of maturity in here.
  |
 Dec 21 2004, 07:40 PM
Post
#126
|
|
 Day's Nearly Over  Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,553 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 45,183  |
It's kind of stupid because if you think about.. christians, like myself, are always taught of being kind to everyone. It's funny that you find christians boycotting stores that says Happy Holidays.. because in the beginning, we're taught to be respectful to others.
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 21 2004, 08:01 PM
Post
#127
|
|
 HOY!!!!! Group: Member Posts: 268 Joined: Oct 2004 Member No: 55,098 |
who said we are boycotting???? and u believe what the "secular" media says about us [christians] ? we have never boycotted at least to my own knowledge...... its just that some/most of the secular media out there just want to remove "God" out of our nation... thats just plain simple... if u dont believe in God then what do u believe in??
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 21 2004, 08:34 PM
Post
#128
|
|
 dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
Happy Holidays:
a shorter form of merry christmas and a happy new year. |
|
|
|
|
Dec 21 2004, 08:44 PM
Post
#129
|
|
 wanderlust personified. Group: Official Designer Posts: 7,515 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 797 |
We use "Happy Holidays" because not everyone celebrates Christmas. Some celebrate Hannakuh (sp?), Kwanza, etc.
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 21 2004, 09:19 PM
Post
#130
|
|
|
to hell with you Group: Member Posts: 2,547 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,506 |
happy holidays is meant to be for other holidays like christmas, hannukah etc.
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 21 2004, 09:31 PM
Post
#131
|
|
|
to hell with you Group: Member Posts: 2,547 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,506 |
christmas should be celebrated by everyone. its a happy holiday.
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 21 2004, 10:14 PM
Post
#132
|
|
|
dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
Eff jesus day should be celebrated by everyone. it's a happy day.
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 21 2004, 10:17 PM
Post
#133
|
|
|
I love you <33333 Group: Member Posts: 2,928 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 30,404 |
well, Its really not a huge deal to me. Like other peoiple have said, it has become a national holiday, even for people who arent christian.
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 22 2004, 03:03 AM
Post
#134
|
|
 naïvety Group: Human Posts: 1,303 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 488 |
i've never really celebrated christmas, all my family does is trade presents and bring out our tiny fake tree. big deal.
i can't understand why all my Christian friends are trying to persuade me to become christian (I AM NOT CHRISTIAN). they say Christianity is the absolute best religion there is and if you are not Christian this life, you will go to hell. how is Christianity the best, most fair, etc. religion when Christians themselves are jinxing non-Christians about their non-Christianity, claiming Christmas as their own (and not sharing it)? as far as i'm concerned, i don't understand Christianity. period. |
|
|
|
|
Dec 22 2004, 01:54 PM
Post
#135
|
|
|
dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
and that's why i don't like christianity.
because all these christians think their religion is the absolute best and thier god is the absolute best... which results in my signature... and i actually know a fair amount about christianity... |
|
|
|
|
Dec 22 2004, 05:04 PM
Post
#136
|
|
 your sweetest sin. Group: Member Posts: 416 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 18,960 |
why should it bother you? let people celebrate whatever they feel like celebrating. you don't have the right to limit their holidays.
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 22 2004, 08:08 PM
Post
#137
|
|
|
HOY!!!!! Group: Member Posts: 268 Joined: Oct 2004 Member No: 55,098 |
QUOTE happy holidays is meant to be for other holidays like christmas, hannukah etc. yea i understand that.... but they are tryin to change "merry christmas" into "happy holidays".. i know its a dumb topic that people say that are against christianity.... so yea... get what the problem is? |
|
|
|
| *tweeak* |
Dec 22 2004, 08:43 PM
Post
#138
|
|
Guest |
QUOTE(SkaironFrenzy @ Dec 22 2004, 8:08 PM) yea i understand that.... but they are tryin to change "merry christmas" into "happy holidays".. i know its a dumb topic that people say that are against christianity.... so yea... get what the problem is? yes, but isnt it also dumb of nonchristians to think the world has to conform to them? tell me happy ramadan, tell my mother happy passover. if you can celebrate other holidays on other times of the year, why does christmas season have to be so generalized? hanaukah is over, why would we wish you that anymore? and i have honestly never met anyone who celebrates kwanza before. its not even that religious, is it? basically created so that african-americans who arent christian or jewish can feel special and fit into the celebrations as well? and why must we clump all december/january holidays together anyway? theyre not all on the same day, so how about we celebrate each one as it arrives. wait until after christmas to with happy new years. alright, ive strayed from my point a bit, but basically, this whole ordeal is ridiculous. why do people have to get so f**king easily offended? |
|
|
|
|
Dec 22 2004, 11:52 PM
Post
#139
|
|
 Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
I don't care what the shizznitz you all say, I'll say Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays whenever it suits me.
QUOTE yes, but isnt it also dumb of nonchristians to think the world has to conform to them? I know I'm quoting you out of context, and I really shouldn't but that just kind of rubbed me the wrong way. Sure, I think it's dumb for non-Christians to be so obsessed with saying happy holidays instead of merry christmas, but it's dumber for some Christians to get upset over non-Christians who don't care to use merry christmas OR happy holidays. If Christians didn't tell me that they think I shouldn't have said merry christmas, then I wouldn't bother to distinguish the differences of happy holidays and merry christmas. There are non-Christians who care, and there are those who don't care until their feathers are ruffled, like me. QUOTE why do people have to get so f**king easily offended? I get f**king offended when people tell me I can't wish my friends and family to have a happy holidays using AVAILABLE terms because I'm not part of the clique. Like saying Merry Christmas or getting presents or celebrating on Dec 25th is reserved for only certain special people. I get offended and I have a right to be. Freedom of religion. Freedom of speech. So long as I'm not saying f**k Christmas instead of merry, then everyone should be happy and not be offended. I do see your point of view though. There are non-Christians who take this too far. But you know, I'm sure their feathers were ruffled by something one way or another, or else, why would they bother? |
|
|
|
|
Dec 23 2004, 12:23 AM
Post
#140
|
|
|
dont forget to smiLe today Group: Member Posts: 336 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 39,095 |
its the same to me. as long as you get the point across.
whats wrong with merry christmas anyway. just like happy kwanza. no? |
|
|
|
|
Dec 23 2004, 02:42 AM
Post
#141
|
|
|
Brie Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 10,172 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 20,548 |
Ooh, yay. I've been bitching about this subject for a few days now.
Anyways. People just.. ugh. Get overly offended? It's really annoying me. If you're offended by something, or if you don't like how something is done.. don't piss and moan at an administrator of some kind.. because they have the power to abolish that specific event/phrase/etc. Seriously. If you don't like something, just f*cking roll with it. I'm sick and tired of this politically correct bullshit. Say what you f*cking want to. If you don't agree with it, don't return the favor. Say "happy holidays" if you wish, but don't ruin things for other people. And I'm not even talking about this whole holiday situation.. If you don't like something, then go ahead and whine. But don't get it abolished if it'll benefit/please other people. It's a bit selfish 'cause, oh gee! You don't like something, so you're going to go and try and get it abolished! This all just really pisses me off. A lot of things offend me in this world. I don't agree with people on a lot of things. I could go bitch to somebody with power about it, but do I? No. I just roll with it because I don't want to take something away from other people. Just be a little more considerate, you know? If someone says "Merry Christmas" to you, and you're a part ofanother religion or something like that, then just smile and say thank you and return it.. you can DEFINITELY return that with "Happy Holidays!" or inserting your OWN holiday there. You're still spreading the joy. I'm just sick of this politically correct bullshit. Why do we have to try and please everyone? It's never going to work out so everyone is pleased, so why not just roll with it and do it the way that you please to do things? |
|
|
|
|
Dec 23 2004, 07:17 AM
Post
#142
|
|
|
naïvety Group: Human Posts: 1,303 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 488 |
QUOTE why should it bother you? let people celebrate whatever they feel like celebrating. you don't have the right to limit their holidays. exactly. but some selfish Christians say its not right for non-Christians to celebrate their holidays. really, if Jesus does love us all, he should understand that some of us just have other religions, its nothing against him. didn't your teacher in kindergarten tell you to accept everyone the way they are? my Christian friends tell me Christianity is an open religion - it tries to lure people into believing in God. whereas people here are claiming Christmas for themselves and still celebrating halloween. wtf? |
|
|
|
|
Dec 23 2004, 09:09 AM
Post
#143
|
|
 cheeeesy like theres no tomorrow Group: Member Posts: 3,316 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 37,142 |
QUOTE(K!$$ @ Dec 22 2004, 3:03 AM) i've never really celebrated christmas, all my family does is trade presents and bring out our tiny fake tree. big deal. i can't understand why all my Christian friends are trying to persuade me to become christian (I AM NOT CHRISTIAN). they say Christianity is the absolute best religion there is and if you are not Christian this life, you will go to hell. how is Christianity the best, most fair, etc. religion when Christians themselves are jinxing non-Christians about their non-Christianity, claiming Christmas as their own (and not sharing it)? as far as i'm concerned, i don't understand Christianity. period. i doubt that your friends say that christianity is the best. i think your exaggerating cause i wouldn't even say that... and if they did then they arent the best of christians. There are no "best" religions there is none. It shouldnt matter. how can a religion be the best??? RELIGION IS NOT A COMPETITION. and that also goes to your friends that say christianity is the best. and they only think that because so many people believe in God. Not all but many in the US. Christianity is a religion but is also seperated. there are many kinds of christianity. like for example if you speak spanish, there are dialects like puerto rican, dominican, salvadorian, peruvian...etc... Chrisitanity like launguages have different kinds of christianity. like catholics born again baptists.... but they all still believe in God. |
|
|
|
|
Dec 23 2004, 11:14 AM
Post
#144
|
|
 Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 219 Joined: Dec 2004 Member No: 68,958 |
america isnt just full of christians, there are other people who celebrate different religions and holidays too.
making people say merry christmas instead of happy holidays is stupid, cuz other people in our country celebrate other holidays not just christmas. dumb meanies. 
|
|
|
|
|
Dec 23 2004, 12:49 PM
Post
#145
|
|
|
dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
and all christians belive that for the second comming of christ, every able ear must hear his message, no?
and that's where the problem stems. |
|
|
|
|
Dec 23 2004, 01:10 PM
Post
#146
|
|
|
Brie Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 10,172 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 20,548 |
QUOTE america isnt just full of christians, there are other people who celebrate different religions and holidays too. making people say merry christmas instead of happy holidays is stupid, cuz other people in our country celebrate other holidays not just christmas. dumb meanies. mad.gif Yes, I realize that.. but you should be able to say "Merry Christmas" without a bunch of people jumping all over you. If you don't believe in Christmas, then don't say "Merry Christmas".. say "Happy Hannukah [sp?]" if someone says "Merry Christmas" to you.. or replace that with the holiday that you celebrate. Or go ahead and say "Happy Holidays", but I refuse to. I'll say whatever the hell I please. Or just say thank you and move along. I'm fully aware of the fact that not everyone here is a Christian. I know that from experiences, but I don't see why a person can't say "Merry Christmas" without people spazzing at them about how you have to be politically correct and shit like that. |
|
|
|
|
Dec 23 2004, 01:23 PM
Post
#147
|
|
|
dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
yes, you shoudl be able to say merry christmas without people jumping on you...
but what's happening is some churches are jumping on people who say happy holidays. |
|
|
|
|
Dec 23 2004, 01:36 PM
Post
#148
|
|
|
Brie Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 10,172 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 20,548 |
QUOTE yes, you shoudl be able to say merry christmas without people jumping on you... but what's happening is some churches are jumping on people who say happy holidays. Yeah, and that sucks, too.. Personally, I think you should be able to say/do whatever the hell you want on this subject. If you celebrate [insert holiday here], then do stuff for that holiday. |
|
|
|
| *tweeak* |
Dec 23 2004, 02:10 PM
Post
#149
|
|
Guest |
QUOTE(Despise @ Dec 23 2004, 1:10 PM) Yes, I realize that.. but you should be able to say "Merry Christmas" without a bunch of people jumping all over you. If you don't believe in Christmas, then don't say "Merry Christmas".. say "Happy Hannukah [sp?]" if someone says "Merry Christmas" to you.. or replace that with the holiday that you celebrate. Or go ahead and say "Happy Holidays", but I refuse to. I'll say whatever the hell I please. Or just say thank you and move along. I'm fully aware of the fact that not everyone here is a Christian. I know that from experiences, but I don't see why a person can't say "Merry Christmas" without people spazzing at them about how you have to be politically correct and shit like that. i agree completely as for what sadolakced acid said, thats wrong. say what you want, but dont stop me from saying merry christmas, and ill let you say whatever you want. although, in churches, you should say merry christmas, because the fact that youre in church implies that youre christian. if youre in a church, and youre nott christian, you cant very well get offended by christian beliefs, because youre the one who went. |
|
|
|
|
Dec 23 2004, 02:52 PM
Post
#150
|
|
|
dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
 how am i wrong? the first post in this thread was about churchs telling thier members to boycott stores that said 'happy holidays' instead of 'merry christmas' because it's "wrong to take christ out of the season" |
|
|
|
|
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members: