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 May 20 2004, 10:54 PM
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 Wow it's been a long time!!  Group: Member Posts: 1,672 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 8,954  |
QUOTE(ComradeRed @ May 20 2004, 6:01 PM) They arne't potential criminals after they kill someone; they're already criminals. When we punish them, we punish them for what they already did, not for what they MIGHT do in the future. wow. you are my GOD. i agree with everything you've said so far on createblog, i couldn't have said any of it better myself. |
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May 21 2004, 04:51 PM
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Well...there's all that grief, pain, depression from the future victims' families...you can stop it by killing the criminals who deserve to die (heh yeah I know, opinion).
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May 21 2004, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE Well...there's all that grief, pain, depression from the future victims' families...you can stop it by killing the criminals who deserve to die (heh yeah I know, opinion). Future victims? Where does that come into play? and.. how do we determine which criminals "deserve" as you put it, to die? |
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May 21 2004, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE(chinkieeyedpnoi @ May 12 2004, 9:30 PM) I'm for death penalty. I mean, who cares if the con repented? The fact still remains that he murdered someone. *believes in the saying, " an eye for an eye" * - Chinkieeyedpnoi if we had "eye for an eye" our whole world wuld b blind ((blinder)) im against it..theres alwayz the chance that the person is not actually guilty...n i believe we dont have a rite to take sume1 elses life...just b/c they killed someone DOES NOT give us the rite to kill them..i think they shuld b put in prision for the rest of their life...n not have such good tratements like they have((that we pay for with tazes)) but i think only God shuld choose when a person leaves Earth... also...i learned the other day...do u know when they give ppl a lethal injection...they steralize the needle??? i mean hey we have to steralize it or the person mite DIE |
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May 21 2004, 04:59 PM
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Ok several things..
QUOTE if we had "eye for an eye" our whole world wuld b blind ((blinder)) im against it.. that i agree with  QUOTE theres alwayz the chance that the person is not actually guilty... well what if there was undeniable proof that they were guilty, as in, caught on tape murdering several people? QUOTE i think they shuld b put in prision for the rest of their life...n not have such good tratements like they have((that we pay for with tazes)) not have good treatment.. wouldnt that be kind of inhumane? QUOTE also...i learned the other day...do u know when they give ppl a lethal injection...they steralize the needle??? i mean hey we have to steralize it or the person mite DIE um... what? :confused: isnt the point of lethal injection to kill someone? |
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May 21 2004, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 21 2004, 4:59 PM) Ok several things.. that i agree with well what if there was undeniable proof that they were guilty, as in, caught on tape murdering several people? not have good treatment.. wouldnt that be kind of inhumane? um... what? :confused: isnt the point of lethal injection to kill someone? well i still dont think they shuld b killed...just my opinion thou...SOMETIMES i agree with it..but i mean ppl make mistakes..sumetimes really big ones....when i said bad treatment i dunt mean inhumane..i mean like they get to watch more TV then me......and lol the lethal injection thing..that was my point...they use our taxes to make a needle, they r using to kill sume1, clean...instead of letting us keep our $$ or using it for sumething usefull |
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May 21 2004, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE well i still dont think they shuld b killed...just my opinion thou...SOMETIMES i agree with it..but i mean ppl make mistakes..sumetimes really big ones.... so if someone were to say.. make a "mistake" of murdering hundreds of ppl, do you think they should still live? QUOTE when i said bad treatment i dunt mean inhumane..i mean like they get to watch more TV then me...... heh I see.. so how do you think they should be treated? QUOTE and lol the lethal injection thing..that was my point...they use our taxes to make a needle, they r using to kill sume1, clean...instead of letting us keep our $$ or using it for sumething usefull Well... they're using it to kill someone, clean.. wouldnt life in prison or something be not only more expensive, but merely draw out their death anyways, in a less clean way? |
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May 21 2004, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 21 2004, 5:57 PM) so if someone were to say.. make a "mistake" of murdering hundreds of ppl, do you think they should still live? heh I see.. so how do you think they should be treated? Well... they're using it to kill someone, clean.. wouldnt life in prison or something be not only more expensive, but merely draw out their death anyways, in a less clean way? yes i do think they shuld live b/c i dunt think humans have the right to take another human's life..even if thats what the person did...2 wrongs dunt make a rite..i think they shuld b treated as prisioners....not tortured r nething...but i dunt think they shuld have cable TV n candy bars in their cells....n the lethal injectiong thingy..forget that i wasnt debating that i was just stating it b/c i thought it was weird that they steralized sumething they r killing the person with neway |
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May 21 2004, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE Future victims? Where does that come into play? and.. how do we determine which criminals "deserve" as you put it, to die? Well, the ones who have obviously committed a harsh felony, such as murder. Okay, I'm certainly not going to take credit for this. About your "eye for an eye isn't right" argument: QUOTE There can be exceptions. Lets say person A rapes then murder a little girl, and I want him to die through the death penalty, but I believe so much in peace and not 'an eye for an eye' and let him be jailed. Now, years later, he's paroled and when he gets out he finds some other little girl to rape and kill.... it wouldn't be an eye for an eye any more.. it'll be an eye for two eyes... In this situation then, "an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" cannot be applied, because two innocents have been killed. This is from the second page from uninspiredfae. |
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May 22 2004, 03:16 AM
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So for the people arguing for the death penalty, would you ever consider yourself to be the person carrying it out? Would you like to be the doctor with the needle or the person who switches the electric chair on or press the button to release the poisonous gas into the gas chamber? It may not be murder under LAW but doesn't it sound a bit wrong that the law can give you PERMISSION to kill someone?
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May 22 2004, 07:37 PM
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I don't think it is wrong. That perosn made the wrong decision of killing someone so they dsevre the just punishment and i wouldn't feel anything if i were the person admnistering it. I know that they obviously something VERY VERY wrong, and the only just cause for the death penalty is murder.
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May 22 2004, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE I don't think it is wrong. That perosn made the wrong decision of killing someone so they dsevre the just punishment and i wouldn't feel anything if i were the person admnistering it. I know that they obviously something VERY VERY wrong, and the only just cause for the death penalty is murder. Ok, so by your logic, murder justifies another murder, so if the executioner murders the sentenced, wouldnt the executioner be guilty of murder as well? |
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May 22 2004, 07:49 PM
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i'm too cool 4 school Group: Member Posts: 752 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,421 |
It isn't murder on the executioners side. The executioner did not willing kill someone, they are following the law, they did nothing wrong. Also because murder is the unlawful killing of someone. The executioner is not unlawfully killing that person
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May 22 2004, 07:52 PM
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Ok, you believe in God, so I'll ask you this.. what if, someone claimed that God told them to kill someone, then they wouldnt have willingly killed someone, do they deserve to die?
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May 22 2004, 07:56 PM
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i'm too cool 4 school Group: Member Posts: 752 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,421 |
I don't know if i would believe the person or not so i don't think i can say do they deserve to die.
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May 22 2004, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE I don't know if i would believe the person or not so i don't think i can say do they deserve to die. Ok, but suppose God realli did tell that person to do so, and that person truly did it because God deemed it so, then what? |
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May 22 2004, 08:02 PM
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Why would God tell someone to kill someone? Wouldn't he do it himself?
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May 22 2004, 08:09 PM
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*shrug* but suppose he did? its a hypothetical situation
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May 22 2004, 08:13 PM
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Hmm...well, many are pro the death penalty, but does it depend on the circumstances? Because what if it was a child who committed a crime against a parent, should they receive the death penalty too?
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May 22 2004, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE Hmm...well, maybe are pro the death penalty, but does it depend on the circumstances? Because what if it was a child who committed a crime against a parent, should they receive the death penalty too? Yay! Someone for my side! And thats an excellent point.. wish i'd thought of it 
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May 22 2004, 10:41 PM
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i'm too cool 4 school Group: Member Posts: 752 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,421 |
The child knows what is right and what is wrong. When they go against what it is right and murder someone it isn't different from an adult
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May 22 2004, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE The child knows what is right and what is wrong. When they go against what it is right and murder someone it isn't different from an adult Dont you mean the child *doesnt* know? and well.. perhaps some adults dont know either, you can't assume that everyone was brought up to tell the difference from right and wrong.. there's not that much diff |
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May 22 2004, 10:46 PM
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 Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
Perhaps if a child is involved, we must first consider if this child has been influenced by an adult. If that's the case, then they both should split the punishment. Meaning, the child wouldn't get death sentence, but would not go free either, and the adult who was the 'mastermind' should also get life in prison.
I'm for capital punishment, but I also believe in exceptions to every problem. |
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May 22 2004, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE Perhaps if a child is involved, we must first consider if this child has been influenced by an adult. If that's the case, then they both should split the punishment. Meaning, the child wouldn't get death sentence, but would not go free either, and the adult who was the 'mastermind' should also get life in prison. I'm for capital punishment, but I also believe in exceptions to every problem. But what if the child wasnt influenced by an adult, what if the child was say, influenced by the media or something? |
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May 22 2004, 10:48 PM
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i'm too cool 4 school Group: Member Posts: 752 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,421 |
QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 22 2004, 10:43 PM) Dont you mean the child *doesnt* know? and well.. perhaps some adults dont know either, you can't assume that everyone was brought up to tell the difference from right and wrong.. there's not that much diff everyone knows that killing someone is wrong and a crime. Murder and rape is the only thing that merits the death penalty to me |
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