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White history month?, racism
sikdragon
post Nov 1 2005, 10:15 PM
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If they aren't american, then that's a different topic altogether. I thought this was about black and white history month in the united states. If you're not american it doesn't apply.
 
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QUOTE(Latina Babii @ Nov 1 2005, 6:06 PM)
The answer that we don't learn about american history is because we would need to know all of the truth and nothing but the damn truth,, like the sterlization of hispanics, or people putting Japanese in concentration camps, theres alot of history that people don't know about and don't believe. And the american goverment wants to be viewed as good, so it's like:Oh well we made people free, we let people come to our country, why should all those bad things get out?
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If people don't know history, it's their own damn fault. All those things are taught in school. What are you getting at? You do learn about Japanese concentration camps...etc in American History. Did you skip that day or fall asleep or something?
 
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post Nov 2 2005, 06:57 AM
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I'm not saying in today, how rude, but a few students don't learn about it till the are much older. My teacher didn't know about the Japanese concentration campos until his last year of college. Took awhile huh? Not to mention how hyporcritcal that was....especially when they helped the Jews.
 
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The Japanese helped the Jews? Excuse me, but were they not in a nice little agreement with Germany (the Nazis) during World War 2? Was that not why we were against them?...

And America is not the Jews, as has been proven. The Jews did not put the Japanese in concentration camps, the Americans did. It was an after-effect of Pearl Harbor. America's concentration camps weren't nearly as bad as Hitler's, though it wasn't right, and that's rightly presented in World History.

We went into detail on it last year, my freshman year, in high school.
 
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you're in 10th grade? that explains a lot. no offense.
 
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post Nov 2 2005, 12:10 PM
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Exactly. Everyone's all 'yay, we're in equality now!' which, we're not. I hear 'whitey' and 'white milk' like everyday from blacks. if a white person said 'nigger' or 'chocolate milk' they'd probably get beat up. is that really right? they call eachother those kinds of things. even IF white people are joking, the african americans take it seriously. when they're being serious, the whites take it as a joke.

there is no equality in any of this.

and with the colleges.. they could get into a good college just like any white girl or guy if they had good enough grades. there are scholarships, funded programs, student aids, student loans..

and with SLAVERY.. white people were slaves in Rome back in the day too. Why don't they get recognized? They were treated VERY poorly, if not more poorly than the african americans here in the U.S. and just because they were slaves doesn't automatically mean they were beat to death. A lot of slaveowners were like family to their slaves. Many even let them run off, to freedom.

and like someone said (I would post the exact quote, but i didn't think about it and i'm too lazy to go get it) "it took a white person to free them" and yeah, lincoln.

so. what now?

i've read about a lot of black men and women in history books. maybe you all just read the wrong sources. there are books that ONLY have history about blacks.

i don't understand where this equality comes from. there is none.

i really don't think any specific gender/sex/species(?) should have a month dedicated directly to them. it IS racist/sexist/whatever else. yeah, the people that suffered SHOULD be recognized on their day of birth or death or whatever.. but it really doesn't seem very equal to me. but i also don't think whites should have their own history month. they are recognized a lot, but.. no race should have a month directly dedicated to them. it seems.. strange to me.

that's long. sorry. i rest my case. whistling.gif

i just found this.



that's gotta tell you something.

that's really sad. wow. wacko.gif
 
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post Nov 2 2005, 01:52 PM
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I thought the rule was you had to read the whole thread before you could reply..... I did, dang it. Good points.
 
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QUOTE(sikdragon @ Nov 2 2005, 11:20 AM)
you're in 10th grade? that explains a lot. no offense.
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And you're what, a junior? Considering you were born about a year before me?

What exactly are you trying to say?...
 
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post Nov 2 2005, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE(xpaperbag @ Nov 2 2005, 12:10 PM)
Exactly. Everyone's all 'yay, we're in equality now!' which, we're not. I hear 'whitey' and 'white milk' like everyday from blacks. if a white person said 'nigger' or 'chocolate milk' they'd probably get beat up. is that really right? they call eachother those kinds of things. even IF white people are joking, the african americans take it seriously. when they're being serious, the whites take it as a joke.

First of all, the 'N' word is MUCH too serious to be taken as a joke.

Also, no one is making the white person take it as a joke, if they want to laugh it off, it's their choice. I know White people who would get offended if they got called that. And I know black people who would laugh or not care if a white person called them "chocolate milk". You can't really generalize like that.


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and with SLAVERY.. white people were slaves in Rome back in the day too. Why don't they get recognized? They were treated VERY poorly, if not more poorly than the african americans here in the U.S. and just because they were slaves doesn't automatically mean they were beat to death. A lot of slaveowners were like family to their slaves. Many even let them run off, to freedom.
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...The slaves in Roman times were often payed and allowed to buy their freedom. They were allowed to go out without being known as a slave so they weren't treated poorly by the people. Skilled slaves were often treated nicely, and slaves to the very wealthy mostly had better lives than the very poor (but free) citizens.
 
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And you're what, a junior? Considering you were born about a year before me?

What exactly are you trying to say?...

I'm actually a senior. Not trying to say anything, it's just the difference in debating a tenth grader and people like uninspired fae and comrade red is ginormous. No offense to you, it's just different.
 
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QUOTE(Latina Babii @ Nov 2 2005, 6:57 AM)
I'm not saying in today, how rude, but a few students don't learn about it till the are much older. My teacher didn't know about the Japanese concentration campos until his last year of college. Took awhile huh? Not to mention how hyporcritcal that was....especially when they helped the Jews.
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What do you mean 'how rude'? It's true! If I go to school and slack off and don't learn anything, then it's my own damn fault. Fortunately, I had more sense.

In all seriousness, if you asked a random college student about who were the allies and who were the axis in WWII, chances that they would know the complete answer is not at all impressive. There are lot of things people choose not to know because they were never interested in learning or don't care to retain that knowlege.

History is there. All it needs for one to know it is research. It's doesn't seem logical that information about Japanese concentration camps would be omitted and a student cannot pull up anything about it with research.

Also, American History is a core requirement. Though a lot of students choose to take cores later on in their college years, it doesn't mean it was only taught to seniors. You teacher may have chosen to take it in his last year.

I don't quite understand your comment about the Jews. huh.gif
 
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post Nov 4 2005, 08:52 PM
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I would have to say no to white history month BECAUSE:

AMerica itself is created by white people. in our history book 95% of the people are white. every president we have is white and so on and so on. Im jus saying that we as americans are reconized by the accomplishments of white people.

I believe that Black HIstory month is to say "Hay black people have accomplished things too". Its the month to remember many of the UNreconized people in america.
 
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post Nov 4 2005, 11:17 PM
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that simple^

QUOTE(Genuine_Essence @ Nov 4 2005, 9:52 PM)
I would have to say no to white history month BECAUSE:

AMerica itself is created by white people. in our history book 95% of the people are white. every president we have is white and so on and so on. Im jus saying that we as americans are reconized by the accomplishments of white people.

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yup, man even jesus is white hehe.gif (depicted as white)
 
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post Nov 5 2005, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ Nov 5 2005, 5:17 AM)
that simple^
yup, man even jesus is white hehe.gif (depicted as white)
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ermm.gif he's jewish...
 
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post Nov 5 2005, 10:39 PM
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I would have to say no to white history month BECAUSE:

AMerica itself is created by white people. in our history book 95% of the people are white. every president we have is white and so on and so on. Im jus saying that we as americans are reconized by the accomplishments of white people.

I believe that Black HIstory month is to say "Hay black people have accomplished things too". Its the month to remember many of the UNreconized people in america.


Why not instead of a black history month, make it a poor help-out month. Communities go into the underprivileged parts of town and fix things up. Where we help support our weakest link.

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he's jewish...

There are white jews. Adam Sandler is white. Half of lenny kravitz is white. Either way, it's inconclusive. As to the color of his skin. In fact it doesn't matter. He descended from Shem, not Japheth.
 
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post Nov 5 2005, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(zepfel @ Nov 5 2005, 11:46 AM)
ermm.gif he's jewish...
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ill say it again, even jesus was depicted as white rolleyes.gif

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Why not instead of a black history month, make it a poor help-out month. Communities go into the underprivileged parts of town and fix things up. Where we help support our weakest link.


what the hell would that have to do with black history though? and what? black people are the weaket link? lol what? that didnt sound right man hehe.gif.
 
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I never said african americans were the weakest link, nor was it implied. If you're trying to say that the quite a large chunk, if not the majority of the african american population is underprivileged, i would have to agree with you. That does not, however, put the population of poor americans as predominately black.
 
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post Nov 7 2005, 10:54 PM
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I don't see any problem with dedicating months to celebrate one's own culture or ethnicity, and that applies to Caucasians as well.

There's a difference from celebrating a person's roots and origins as compared to celebrating the color of someone's skin.

For example, the controversial issue of one highschooler wanting to start a "Caucasian Club" at her school caused an uproar throughout the country. Everyone claimed that she was a racist, white supremist, when really all she wanted to do was start an organization where other white teens like herself could delve deeper into the history of their European roots.

I thought it was unfair how people immediately jumped to the notion that she was racist because she was white and wanted to start a culture club.

In my personal opinion, the issue isn't White people getting enough recognition, it's the fact that the citizens of this country continue to acknoledge the significance of skin color, tragic historical events, and stereotypes.

Slavery and the World Wars didn't happen so we could hold those events as grudges and use them as reasons to show that there is injustice against minorities. History is there to learn from - not to use as an excuse.

All the issues we have to deal with regarding race this present day and time only exist because there are people out there who are still willing to accept stereotypes and act upon them. "Act upon them" meaning people who not only believe in said stereotypes, but those who play the "race card" and use their skin color as an excuse to receive some kind of recognition. There is a difference between a government scholarship program to benefit African-American students, as compared to voting for someone to be the United States President because they are Mexican, unaware if whether or not the person they are voting for is capable for the job or has any experience that will aid them during their stay in office.

Not all Black people carry around thick gold chains and sag their pants.

Not all Asians get straight A's and have the last name Nguyen.

Not all White people own a Mercedes and have the benefits of coming from a rich family.

I celebrate Black History Month because I admire Maya Angelou and the achievements of Martin Luther King Jr. I am not black, nor do I have to be to celebrate the occasion.

Basically I mean to say, there is nothing wrong with having pride in one's own ethnicity - whether that be Black, White, Hispanic, or Asian - but there is no pride in being hostile towards someone of a different race. It's not fair to generalize the idea that all Blacks are racist towards Whites, or vice versa, but more so that the people of this country need to mature and learn how to recognize people because of who they are - not because of an ethnicity's involvment in a past historical event or because of generalized notions born from media influence and entertainment.

America wasn't built by White people. Literally, you could say since our Constitution and Goverment was designed by people of European descent, but the American culture varies from where you live - and personally my life is affected by people of all types of ethnicities.

The use of racial slurs in everday society is an issue yet to be tackled. The problem is that most teenagers fail to understand the severity of using such words, and some just don't see how it's wrong to throw the term around. See, it all really matters who you choose to be friends with. My group of friends is not restricted to one ethnicity, so I wouldn't know what it would be like to only have Asian friends or White friends, but I do notice pretty often how some of my White and Black friends don't see anything wrong with calling eachother "cracker" or "n*****". They laugh about it a lot, too, but honestly it all matters your personal perspective on the subject and whether you, your friends, or your family find it socially acceptable.

I know this eventually will come back to bite me in the ass because my argument is flawed - but hey? Isn't everbody's?

This is long, I know, but it's just my two cents on the topic.
 
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I agree completely with you. I've been dead-set on removing all race things, recognizing races and whatnot from the start. Race shouldn't be an issue at all, in any situation.
 
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post Nov 8 2005, 06:33 PM
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okay answer this question, without a white history month right now, do you think we are deprived from knowing your history? without a white history month now, people know about white history more than any other. minorities can probably answer more questions that would concern "white history"(i rather say history that has to do with caucasions) than they can their own. including myself. dont you realize that? white history is basically history itself in america. with a splash of some black accomplishments. for example, if i went to school and asked a white kid (or even asian or hispanic etc) to name 10 black inventors. they could most likely only answer one "george washington Carver". do you think they would know any of these names?
1 A.P. Abourne: Refining of coconut oil. July 27, 1980
2 A. B. Blackburn: Spring seat for chairs. Patent# 380,420 April 3, 1888
3 A.C. Richardson: Casket-Lowering Device. Patent# 529,311 November 13, 1894
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5 A.E. Long and A.A. Jones-- Caps For Bottles And Jars 1898
6 A.L. Lewis: Window Cleaner 1892
7 A.L. Rickman Galoshes 1898
8 Anna M. Mangin Pastry fork March 1, 1892
9 Alexander P. Ashbourne Biscuit Cutter November, 1875
10 Alexander Miles Elevator and also safety device for elevators. Patent No. 371,207 October11, 1887
11 Alfred L. Cralle Ice Cream Scooper. Patent # 576,395 February 2,1897
12 Alice Parker Heating Furnace 1918
13 Andrew Beard Automatic Car Coupling Device 1897
14 Augustus Jackson Ice cream 1832
15 B. F. Cargill Invalid cot. Patent# 629,658 July 25, 1899
16 B.F. Jackson Gas Burner
17 Benjamin Banneker Clock, Prints for Wash. DC 1st Almanac
18 Bessie V. Griffin Portable Receptacle 1951
19 C.B. Brook Street Sweeper 1896
20 C.V. Richey Fire Escape Bracket. Patent # 596,427 December 28, 1897
21 C. W. Allen Self Leveling table. Patent # 613,436 November 1, 1898
22 D. McCree Portable Fire Escape. Patent # 440,322 November 11, 1890
23 Darryl Thomas Cattle Roping Apparatus
24 Dr. Charles Drew Invented Blood Banks And Established Them Around The World 1940
25 Dr. Daniel Hale Williams Performed First Open Heart Surgery 1893
26 Edmond Berger Spark Plug
27 Elbert R. Robinson Electric Railway Trolley
28 Ellen Elgin Clothes Wringer 1880s
29 Elijah Mccoy Automatic Lubrication System (For Railroad And Heavy Machinery) 1892 July 2, 1872
30 Folarin Sosan Package-Park (Solves Package Delivery Dilemma) www.maita.com 1997
31 Frederick Jones Ticket Dispensing Machine. Patent # 2163754 June 27, 1939
32 Frederick Jones Starter Generator. Patent # 2475842 July 12, 1949
33 Frederick Jones Two-Cycle gasoline Engine. Patent # 2523273 November 28, 1950
34 Frederick Jones Air Condition. Patent # 2475841 July 12, 1949
35 Frederick Jones Portable X-Ray Machine
36 G.W. Murray Cultivator and Marker. Patent # 517,961 April 10, 1894
37 G.W. Murray Combined Furrow Opener and Stalk-Knocker. Patent # 517,960 April 10, 1894
38 G.W. Murray Fertilizer Distributor. Patent# 520,889 June 5, 1894
39 G.W. Murray Cotton Chopper. Patent # 520,888 June 5, 1894
40 G.W. Murray Planter. Patent # 520,887 June 5, 1894
41 G. F. Grant Golf Tee. Patent # 638,920 December 12, 1899
42 G.T. Sampson Clothes Drier 1892
43 G.W. Kelley Steam Table 1897
44 Garret A. Morgan Gas Mask (Saved Many Lives During WWI) 1914
45 George Alcorn Fabrication of spectrometer. Patent # 4,618,380 October 21, 1986
46 George Tolivar Ship's propeller
47 George Washington Carver Peanut Butter 1900
48 George Washington Carver 300 products from peanuts, 118 products from the sweet potato and 75 from the pecan. 1900-1943
49 Garret A. Morgan Automatic Traffic Signal 1923
50 Gertrude E. Downing and William Desjardin Corner Cleaner Attachment.
Patent # 3,715,772 February 13, 1973
51 Granville Woods Telephone (His Telephone Was Far Superior To Alexander Graham Bell's) Dec. 2,1884
52 Granville Woods Trolley Car 1888
53 Granville Woods Multiplex Telegraph System (Allowed Messages To Be Sent And Received From Moving Trains) 1887
54 Granville Woods Railway Air Brakes (The First Safe Method Of Stopping Trains) 1903
55 Granville Woods Steam Boiler/Radiator 1884
56 Granville Woods-- Third Rail (Subway)
57 H. Grenon Razor Stropping Device. Patent # 554,867 February 18, 1896
58 H.H. Reynolds Window Ventilator for Railroad Cars.
Patent No.275,271 April 3, 1883
59 H.A. Jackson Kitchen Table
60 Henry Blair Mechanical Seed Planter 1830
61 Henry Blair Mechanical Corn Harvester
62 Henry Single Patented an Improved Fish Hook. He sold it later for $625. 1854
63 Henry Sampson Cellular Phone July 6th, 1971
64 I.O. Carter Nursery Chair 1960
65 Issac R. Johnson Bicycle Frame
66 J. A. Joyce Ore Bucket. Patent # 603,143 April 26, 1898
67 J. Hawkins Patented the Gridiron March 3, 1845
68 J. Gregory Motor
69 J.A. Sweeting Cigarette Roller 1897
70 J.B. Winters Fire Escape Ladder
71 J. H. Hunter Portable Weighing Scales. Patent # 570,533 November 3, 1896
72 J.F. Pickering Air Ship 1892
73 J. H. Robinson Lifesaving guards for Street Cars. Patent# 623,929 April 25, 1899
74 J. Robinson Dinner Pail. Patent# 356,852 February 1, 1887
75 J. W. Reed Dough Kneader and Roller. Patents# 304,552 September 2, 1884
76 J. Ross Bailing Press. Patent # 632,539 Sept 05, 1899
77 J.H. White Convertible Sette (A Large Sofa) 1892
78 J.H. White Lemon Squeezer 1896
79 J.L. Love Pencil Sharpener. Patent # 594,114 23 November 1897
80 J.S. Smith Lawn Sprinkler. Patent # 581,785 May 4, 1897
81 James Forten Sailing Apparatus 1850
82 James S. Adams Airplane Propelling
83 Jan Matzelinger Automatic Shoe Making Machine 1883
84 Joan Clark Medicine Tray 1987
85 John A. Johnson Wrench
86 John Burr Lawn Mower
87 John Parker "Parker Pulverizer" Follower-Screw for Tobacco Presses. Patent# 304,552 September 2, 1884
88 John Standard Refrigerator. Patent# 304,552 Jul 14,1894
89 Joseph Gammel Supercharge System for Internal Combustion Engine
90 Joseph N. Jackson Programmable Remote Control
91 L.C. Bailey Folding Bed 1899
92 L. Bell Locomotive smoke stack. Patent# 115,153 May 23, 1871
93 L. F. Brown Bridle bit. Patent # 484,994 October 25, 1892
94 L.S. Burridge And N.R. Marsham Typewriter 1885
95 Lewis Howard Latimer Light Bulb Filament
96 Lewis Temple Toggle Harpoon (Revolutionized The Whaling Industry) 1848
97 Lloyd A. Hall Chemical compound to preserve meat
98 Lloyd P. Ray Dust Pan
99 Lydia Holmes Wood Toys. Patent # 2,529,692 November 14, 1950
100 Lydia O. Newman Hair brush
101 M.C. Harney Lantern/Lamp Aug.19, 1884
102 Madam. C. Walker Hair Care Products 1905
103 Majorie Joyner Permanent hair wave machine. Patent # 1693515 November 27, 1928
104 Madeline M. Turner The Fruit Press 1916
105 Marie V. Brittan Brown Security System. Patent # 3,482,037 December 2, 1969
106 Manley West Discovered compound in canibis to cure glaucoma. 1980-1987
107 Norbett Rillieux Sugar Refining System 1846
108 O.B. Clare Rail Tresle. Patent# 390,753 October 9, 1888
109 O. E. Brown Horse Shoe 8/23/1892
110 Onesimus Small Pox Inoculation (He Brought This Method From Africa Where Advance Medical Practices Were In Use Long Before Europeans Had Any Medical Knowledge) 1721
111 Otis F. Boykin Wire Type Precision Resistor.
Patent # U.S. 2,891,227 June 16, 1959
112 Paul E Williams Helicopter
113 Peter Walker Machine for Cleaning Seed Cotton
114 Phillip Downing Letter Drop Mailbox. Patent # 462,096 October 27, 1891
115 Philip Emeagwali Accurate Weather Forecasting 1990
116 Philip Emeagwali Hyperball Computer April 1996
117 Philip Emeagwali Improved Petroleum Recovery 1990
118 Philip Emeagwali World's Fastest Computer 1989
119 R.A. Butler Train alarm. Patent #157,370 June 15, 1897
120 R.P. Scott Corn Silker 1894
121 Richard Spikes Automatic Gear Shift
122 Robert Flemming Jr. Guitar March 3, 1886
123 S. H. Love Improvement to military guns. Patent # 1301143. 22 April 1919
124 S. H. Love Improve Vending Machine. Patent # 1936515 November 21, 1933
125 Sara E. Goode Cabinet Bed 1885
126 Rufus Stokes Patent #3,378,241 Exhaust Purifier April 16, 1968
127 Sarah Boone Ironing Board April 26, 1892
128 T. Elkins Toilet 1897
129 T. J. Byrd Rail car coupling . Patent# 157,370 December 1, 1874
130 Thomas Carrington Range Oven 1876
131 Thomas J.Martin Patented the Fire Extinguisher March 26, 1872
132 Thomas W. Stewart Mop 1893
133 Virgie M. Ammons Fireplace Damper Actuating Tool. Patent # 3,908,633 September 30, 1975
134 W. A. Lovette The Advance Printing Press
135 W. F. Burr Railway Switching device . Patent # 636,197 Oct.31,1899
136 W. H. Ballow Combined hatrack and table. Patent # 601,422 March 29, 1898
137 W.S. Campbell Self-setting animal trap. Patent# 246,369 August 30, 1881
138 W. Johnson Egg Beater 1884
139 W.B. Purvis The Fountain Pen Patent# 419,065 Jan 7,1890
140 W.D. Davis Riding Saddles October 6, 1895
141 W.H. Sammons Hot Comb 1920
142 W.S. Grant Curtain Rod Support 1896
143 William Barry Postmarking and Canceling machine
144 Wm. Harwell Attachment for shuttle arm; device used to capture satellites

those are all black inventors and their inventions or inventions or inventions that were improved upon , did you even know that sammi? i know i didnt even know some of those inventors. i hope i made a good point.
 
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QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ Nov 8 2005, 6:33 PM)
okay answer this question, without a white history month right now, do you think we are deprived from knowing your history? without a white history month now, people know about white history more than any other. minorities can probably answer more questions that would concern "white history"(i rather say history that has to do with caucasions) than they can their own. including myself. dont you realize that? white history is basically history itself in america. with a splash of some black accomplishments. for example, if i went to school and asked a white kid (or even asian or hispanic etc) to name 10 black inventors. they could most likely only answer one "george washington Carver". do you think they would know any of these names?
those are all black inventors and their inventions, did you even know that sammi? i know i didnt even know some of those inventors. i hope i made a good point.
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You've committed a stereotype when you said that minorities can answer more questions about White History than non-Whites. Unless you have credible stats, I refuse to believe that.

White history isn't American history. Period. American history does include all those inventors you've mentioned and more, and should one like to go in depth in its studies, you will learn a great deal of Black, Hispanics, Asians and other minorities who have made contributions to America.

Asking if Sammi, or just any White kid, knows all of those Black inventors is like asking if a Black/Hispanic/Asian and/or White kid to name all American Presidents. Ask me, I'm Asian, well-educated, and I won't even be able to do so with much confidence.

If I asked you about Japanese concentration camps or about Chinese Railroad workers, I seriously doubt you would know the answer without research either. Lets be fair, and realistic here.

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..Have you read my posts? I'm not pushing for a white history month. My God. Stop acting like I am. I wholeheartedly do not support one. I don't think we need one either. But I don't think we need any, for any race. Race isn't an issue to me. It's only the color of your skin, and I don't think anyone, white, black, hispanic, Asian, whatever; should get recognition because they happened to be born into a certain family.

Stop acting like I'm some crazy racist person. I'm not, at all.
 
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first of all, where are you getting the idea that i think your a "crazy racist person"? if i thought you were racist i would've called you on it already. your a little self conscious about you thinking people are calling you racist ive noticed.

i know your not racist.... i never called you racist, i havent called anyone racist. jeez

QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Nov 8 2005, 7:45 PM)
Asking if Sammi, or just any White kid, knows all of those Black inventors is like asking if a Black/Hispanic/Asian and/or White kid to name all American Presidents. Ask me, I'm Asian, well-educated, and I won't even be able to do so with much confidence.

If I asked you about Japanese concentration camps or about Chinese Railroad workers, I seriously doubt you would know the answer without research either. Lets be fair, and realistic here.
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i dont expect anyone to remember all those names(i even mentioned i didnt know ALL those names), my point was out of all those inventors people would only be able to name out about 5 at the most. without even knowing there was more.

and about the japenese concentration camps, whats the question.

and btw im not agianst an asian history month of any sort at all.
 
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first of all, where are you getting the idea that i think your a "crazy racist person"? if i thought you were racist i would've called you on it already. your a little self conscious about you thinking people are calling you racist ive noticed.

i know your not racist.... i never called you racist, i havent called anyone racist. jeez


QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Nov 8 2005, 7:45 PM)
You've committed a stereotype when you said that minorities can answer more questions about White History than non-Whites. Unless you have stats, I refuse to believe that.


Asking if Sammi, or just any White kid, knows all of those Black inventors is like asking if a Black/Hispanic/Asian and/or White kid to name all American Presidents. Ask me, I'm Asian, well-educated, and I won't even be able to do so with much confidence.

If I asked you about Japanese concentration camps or about Chinese Railroad workers, I seriously doubt you would know the answer without research either. Lets be fair, and realistic here.
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i dont expect anyone to remember all those names(i even mentioned i didnt know ALL those names), my point was out of all those inventors people would only be able to name out about 5 at the most. without even knowing there was more.

and about the japenese concentration camps, whats the question.

and btw im not agianst an asian history month of any sort at all. matter of fact i think, i know, there should be one. that goes with any other minority.
 
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post Nov 8 2005, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE(L!ckitySplit @ Nov 8 2005, 7:02 PM)
i dont expect anyone to remember all those names(i even mentioned i didnt know ALL those names), my point was out of all those inventors people would only be able to name out about 5 at the most. without even knowing there was more.

and about the japenese concentration camps, whats the question.

and btw im not agianst an asian history month of any sort at all. matter of fact i think, i know, there should be one. that goes with any other minority.
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My question would be why was there a need for the camps to be established and about how many Japanese-Americans were forced to relocate. I don't know the exact number, but I do remember the round about estimate since History class.

This is like an invitation to dishonesty, but do your best without help from the search engines.

What do you mean 'without knowing there were more'? This is another stereotype. You're basically accusing White and Asians of being ignorant to the contributions of Black Americans, which is absurd and discriminatory! If you mean to say that we are undermining Black contributions because we don't know their names, that is just as silly and unfounded. If you were to ask a random person on the street who James Garfield was, they'd give you a blank look. So why do you expect someone to know names specifically? Do you know who James Garfield is without using any research tools? I hope you should answer no, or else I won't believe you.
 

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