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Abortion
ComradeRed
post Sep 3 2004, 02:13 PM
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post Sep 6 2004, 01:01 AM
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im totally against abortion although there are a few exceptions. but its a living thing there and youre killing it because youre not willing to take the responsibility after having sex and the pleasure. although some people go for abortion because they got raped and thats somewhat acceptable i guess, since they cant face the fact they got raped already and they got pregnant. i guess another exception would be financial problems, if they arent able to give their child a normal stable home but they can still have the option to have the baby and put it for adoption. but thats also something to think about because its a possibility your child will have foster parents that abuse them constantly or give them even a worse life you can having financial problems. other than those reasons i dont think there are any more exceptions. a life does make a difference and there are many people out there that probably craves for a baby and they dont get the chance to become a mother while others do and decides to go for abortion. _dry.gif i hope i made sense pinch.gif
 
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post Sep 6 2004, 09:24 AM
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i think abortion is horrible. yes, it is murder. its taking somenes life away before they had a chance to lve it, not giving them any choice in the matter. stupid irrisponsible people who had sex without protection should not be able to erase their mistakes so easily. no, the child does not deserve to grow up unwanted and uncared for, but there are alternatives such as adoption. it should not be the womans choiice to decide if she wants an abortion because it was her decision to have unprotected sex. if the child was the result of rape, they should find options other than legalized murder to get rid of the child. or you could take the religous view point and think that God must have given you that child then for a reason. although some people do have some valid arguments supporting abortion, that still doesnt make it right
 
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post Sep 6 2004, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE(slurp @ Sep 6 2004, 1:01 AM)
im totally against abortion although there are a few exceptions. but its a living thing there and youre killing it because youre not willing to take the responsibility after having sex and the pleasure.

The point of when the fetus is considered a "living thing" is still debatable.

As for sex and pleasure.... I don't mean to sound like a broken record to those who have been arguing... but remember that there are such things are rape (or kidnapping and raping, or incest.... etc).
 
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post Sep 6 2004, 06:24 PM
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im against it. its just like murder
 
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post Sep 6 2004, 06:28 PM
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but remember that there are such things are rape (or kidnapping and raping, or incest.... etc).

Yeah, but those people covered rape somewhat. tongue.gif
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if the child was the result of rape, they should find options other than legalized murder to get rid of the child. or you could take the religous view point and think that God must have given you that child then for a reason.

But...aren't we all just sounding like broken records in this debate?
 
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post Sep 6 2004, 06:30 PM
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The McGreevey scandal has had no effect I believe because people have not thought out the implications. Let me lay out a scenario for you: You and your wife are sleeping peacefully in your bed when you are suddenly awakened by the sound of crashing glass. You look over and there is McGreevey, entering through your window. Your wife groggily wakes up and McGreevey leaps over and pistol-whips her into unconsciousness. You start to get out of bed to defend yourself, but he shoots you in the foot. He then drags you into the living room and does unspeakable things to you. When your wife wakes up she finds your battered and abused body laying on the floor. She is now a widow. I ask you Dems, is this what you want?
 
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post Sep 6 2004, 06:33 PM
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The McGreevey scandal has had no effect I believe because people have not thought out the implications. Let me lay out a scenario for you: You and your wife are sleeping peacefully in your bed when you are suddenly awakened by the sound of crashing glass. You look over and there is McGreevey, entering through your window. Your wife groggily wakes up and McGreevey leaps over and pistol-whips her into unconsciousness. You start to get out of bed to defend yourself, but he shoots you in the foot. He then drags you into the living room and does unspeakable things to you. When your wife wakes up she finds your battered and abused body laying on the floor. She is now a widow. I ask you Dems, is this what you want?

I'm confused... blink.gif What does that have to do with abortion?
 
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post Sep 6 2004, 06:34 PM
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I was merely using McGreevey as an example, it could be any gay/lesbian/transgendered person coming through the window. I was showing what could become a common occurrence in American homes if we don't watch out. While I hate to make this a political issue, this could happen if Kerry is elected.
 
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post Sep 6 2004, 06:41 PM
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But...about abortion? I still don't see the connection...are you sure you didn't post in the wrong topic? blink.gif
 
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post Sep 6 2004, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE(Kathleen @ Sep 6 2004, 6:28 PM)
Yeah, but those people covered rape somewhat. tongue.gif

You got me there!!!!!! laugh.gif, I guess the only comeback is... there are different kinds of rape? mellow.gif huh.gif ermm.gif Okay... never mind.
 
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post Sep 6 2004, 08:10 PM
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Hehe. tongue.gif Blah. Yeah...I hate how repetitive this topic is getting. yawn.gif
 
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post Sep 6 2004, 08:14 PM
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Every debate topic is getting repetitive... except for the one I made way back (actually, not thay long ago) tongue.gif... only because no one seem to care about internet security mellow.gif . Oh well laugh.gif .
 
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post Sep 7 2004, 02:10 AM
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im against abortion cuz its life man!!! if u dont want it, shouldnt be messin around in the first place stubborn.gif
 
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post Sep 7 2004, 06:13 PM
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Every debate topic is getting repetitive... except for the one I made way back (actually, not thay long ago) ... only because no one seem to care about internet security  . Oh well  .

I posted in it! But but...I didn't comprehend it too well. sad.gif
 
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post Sep 7 2004, 06:16 PM
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ohh man this topic hmm i guess people should have a right to chose but..its a tough thing to decide
 
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post Sep 7 2004, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE(Kathleen @ Sep 7 2004, 6:13 PM)
I posted in it! But but...I didn't comprehend it too well. sad.gif

ohmy.gif laugh.gif Yes, yes you did. I guess it was hard to grasp espcially if you don't have the article on hand, and people don't usually read that long of an article anyway...
 
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post Sep 7 2004, 06:32 PM
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Let em abort a kid. Thier choice.
 
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post Sep 7 2004, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE(cornflakes @ Sep 7 2004, 6:32 PM)
Let em abort a kid. Thier choice.

Now that is a too easy. Ever heard of you reap what you sow?
 
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post Sep 7 2004, 07:52 PM
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Don't dictate what they can't do.
 
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post Sep 7 2004, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE(cornflakes @ Sep 7 2004, 7:52 PM)
Don't dictate what they can't do.

huh.gif What can't they do?
 
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post Sep 9 2004, 07:14 PM
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okay well to start off, i'm a baptized roman catholic christian and in that kind of school, but i am personally NOT really a practicing r.c.c. (its too long to keep typing) i've been taught that abortion is wrong and blah blah. i personally believe it is wrong but not because i've been taught so, its just my opinion.

i believe that its wrong because its your own living child and sometimes (not always) it can be that woman's fault. its wrong to kill and murder first of all, and the baby is alive even though it hasn't been born yet. yes, its not some women's fault due to rape and such but i believe they should just have the baby and if they don't want it, give it up for adoption or something.

that is what i believe, i'm not trying to tell people what to do. thats just my input.
 
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post Sep 10 2004, 10:57 PM
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Im kind of mixed on this topic..

I think that the only circumstance that any woman should be able to have an abortion is if she was raped. If some girl has sex with her bf and the protection doesnt work and she gets pregnant, thats her own fault. She chose to have sex and hopefully excepted the consequences. Thats no reason to get an abortion, at least put it up for adoption if you cant take care of it.
 
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post Sep 10 2004, 11:19 PM
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This came from the other abortion topic:
QUOTE(Retrogressive @ Sep 10 2004, 6:04 PM)
I am pro-life, abortion is murder no matter what anyone says....

I just need to have a big sign that says: I am against everything inlonelinessidie says.... sorry 'bout that  biggrin.gif


You're against everything I say? I said I would never abort unless I was raped. So you are against the fact that I won't abort if I don't get raped? Now that makes no sense does it? That makes you sound like a hypocrite.
 
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post Sep 10 2004, 11:54 PM
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This is a very touchy subject... but I'mma have to voice my opinion on this one.

Most states' rule on abortion is that it will only be done within the first 3 months of the pregnancy. I have been pregnant, so I know for a fact that at the 3 month mark... your baby is moving and is looking very much like a small fetus <well very close to a small fetus> anything b4 that 3 month marker... it's still cells. Which I don't care whether or not anybody wants to argue is a life or isn't yet. This is called pre*term abortion. NOW... there is another type of abortion, which is called late term abortion. [generally done after the 3 month marker where the child is definitely a child by that time] This is usually done when the pregnancy poses some kind of threat to the Baby's and/or mother's life. Late term abortion is not something that is taken lightly and it is only done in emergency cases...

The point is this... you can't always judge somebody's decision so harshly. It may not always come down to the point that somebody was just selfish and "murdered" what would have been a child. Think about the circumstances that person may have to face. What if they do keep a child that they can not provide anything for. That goes for many things such as financially, emotionally, environmentally. A stable healthy environment is important to the well bringing of a child... I'm getting off subject... I'm not for or against it... to me that is a persons choice... I believe the option should be there should somebody choose to do it... however, I believe that if someone should choose to do it... they should do it within the first 1.5 months. And they should be prepared... cause abortion is not an easy thing to deal with.
 

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