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Marilyn Manson
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post Feb 1 2005, 12:40 AM
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Is it wrong to listen to Marilyn Manson if you're a christian?
 
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post Feb 1 2005, 01:52 PM
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i cant speak from a christian perspective, but i can speak as someone who has made a fairly fdetiled study of the Bible at school, and i feel equipt to speak about the ethos of the religion, even if i dont beleive it.

actually having said that, i dont particularly feel like a long post, so ill keep it short _smile.gif

ye si think its fine, because without experiencing alternative views and styles of music, no one can ever learn what it is they truly believe.
 
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post Feb 1 2005, 01:58 PM
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I listen to him and some of my friends do. Like one of them is a total Christian and he loves Marilyn Manson. Besides it's not like if you listen to him your going to hell, or you wont like automatically worship satin or anything. so i guess you know my view on the whole issue.
 
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post Feb 1 2005, 04:20 PM
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my christian friends are told not to listen to it. if you can't be christian and listen to manson, i definetly prefer listening to manson.
 
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post Feb 1 2005, 04:48 PM
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It's just music. Not some bloody call for a cult.
 
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post Feb 1 2005, 05:14 PM
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my christian friends are told not to listen to it. if you can't be christian and listen to manson, i definetly prefer listening to manson.


I totaly agree.
 
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post Feb 1 2005, 05:17 PM
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i agree with everyone else... one he looks like a devil and i hate the lyrics espically that personal jesus one... its wrong and the music is so... =/
 
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post Feb 1 2005, 05:21 PM
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i went to some thing my church put on to help teens learn about god and what we should do in order to get to heaven and according to them, yes, it is bad. pinch.gif i personally don't agree with them because i don't think that the music you listen to should decide wheter you get into heaven or not. go ahead and do what you want. god wants you to be happy. wink.gif

as long as you love god..._unsure.gif
 
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post Feb 1 2005, 05:46 PM
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as long as you love god...


exactly, as long as its purely pleasure, u dot automatically practice satanism
 
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post Feb 1 2005, 09:29 PM
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remember, this is my viewpoint, im not debating, im just putting my opinion.
my viewpoint: yes, it is wrong.

why? it would offend me quickly... i dont want to listen to songs that offend my religion. could possibly harm my faith if i even listen to just one of his songs.

but here's sort-of a twisted example of that:

Utada's new American debut is Exodus 04.

Track 01 is Devil Inside (a club hit that actually made Number #1 in the Billboard Club Hits). I listened to it for a while and it kinda harmed my faith (i dont wanna listen to it anymore).. I don't know what religion Utada is.. but here's more.. 2 tracks later, to Track 03, the song "Workout," she sings "I was dancing with a born-again Christian."

That gets me confused, but my question to Utada is that: Is she promoting the Devil?

Yes, I understand that some rappers put the word "devil" on their songs. Here's the verses to hear what Utada sang.

Devil Inside:

Maybe there's a devil or something like it inside // Maybe there's a devil or something like it inside of me // Devil or something like it inside // Maybe there's a devil somewhere really deep inside me // Devil inside of me // Jealous angel deep inside me

The Workout:

I was talking with a born-again Christian // "So what's it like to start life all over?" // He said "Amen, //I feel like I've been rediscovering the tomb of Tutankhamen." //

Confusion right there.... i deeply respect Utada's singing, but sometimes, that kind of stuff can confuse me.
 
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post Feb 3 2005, 12:29 PM
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my brother does and hes christian. i dont think realigion matters.
 
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post Feb 5 2005, 12:03 PM
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I don't really comprehend how this can 'Harm your faith'...

If you were a parent, adivising your child, no, You shouldn't let them listen to Manson. It might make them go into a cult. That is how parents can be. We all have them (Well, most. Sorry if I offend anyone with that.) And they are going to look out for 'Our Well-being'. Which is their version of 'keeping us safe'. These days, there is more 'bad' influences than before, so it is going to be hard hiding them from your child.

So- It may be bad for people to listen to it if the are in a religion, but I don't think so.
 
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post Feb 10 2005, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE(Kriegsgefangene @ Feb 5 2005, 9:03 AM)
I don't really comprehend how this can 'Harm your faith'...
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im in a spiritual battle right now. it's really hard to understand and i can't really put it in words, but it can harm my faith though.
 
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post Feb 10 2005, 10:54 PM
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If a bunch of songs can harm your faith, then you can tell you were a pretty weak Christian to start off with.
 
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post Feb 10 2005, 11:44 PM
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No.

Music cannot affect your religious faith and/or beliefs. [Opinion]

There isn't anything that says that you HAVE to listen to Christian music, is there?


It's music...
And it's YOUR choice, not others.


Btw: I'm not of Christian beliefs, but I stand by what I say.
 
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post Feb 11 2005, 12:07 AM
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I'm catholic, and I listen to him. I find nothing wrong with it, just because hes anti-christ doesnt mean i am or will turn like that.
 
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post Feb 11 2005, 12:11 AM
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dunno. don't have that problem becuz im athiest <33
 
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post Feb 11 2005, 12:25 AM
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QUOTE(barelyy_coherent @ Feb 10 2005, 7:54 PM)
If a bunch of songs can harm your faith, then you can tell you were a pretty weak Christian to start off with.
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LOL!!!
Yes... we Christians take things very seriously. The Bible says that "every human being is weak."

"weak Christian to start with"? That's a very profound term right there. As I said, I'm in a spiritial battle, and we're all weak in the same way. =)
 
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post Feb 11 2005, 08:47 PM
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i don't like manson plus his music video looks like its for devil worship, so im totally against manson.
 
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post Feb 12 2005, 02:50 AM
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QUOTE(azn_r4pf4n @ Feb 10 2005, 9:25 PM)
LOL!!!
Yes... we Christians take things very seriously. The Bible says that "every human being is weak." 

"weak Christian to start with"? That's a very profound term right there. As I said, I'm in a spiritial battle, and we're all weak in the same way. =)
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I kind of meant...weak in your faith. As in you weren't an exactly "good" Christian to begin with. Anyway. Yeah.

I just don't think that music affects your faith, unless it's sending some sort of subliminal message in the lyrics or music or whatever. I think that if you're a Christian that strongly believes in God, believes in the things He says, then I don't think music will affect the faith.
 
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post Feb 15 2005, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE(SuiciadlxLullaby @ Feb 1 2005, 11:58 AM)
I listen to him and some of my friends do. Like one of them is a total Christian and he loves Marilyn Manson. Besides it's not like if you listen to him your going to hell, or you wont like automatically worship satin or anything. so i guess you know my view on the whole issue.
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Yeah I 2ally think it doesnt really matter crz yeah mayb hes different n hes kinda satan looking pinch.gif but just crz we listen 2 him doesnt mean we r goin 2 hell. wink.gif is he goin 2 hell 4 tht Personal Jesus song? pinch.gif crazy.gif
 
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post Feb 18 2005, 09:57 AM
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I don't think it's wrong. I'm not Christian but I think that listening to Marilyn Manson, is no different than listening to any other singer or band. It's just music that people enjoy. If you really have a strong faith and belief with your religion, then music won't affect it at all.
 
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post Feb 24 2005, 04:34 PM
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No, it doesn't really matter. I mean I listened to them twice.
I don't really listen to their lyrics, just the beat.
So yeah, they don't lure me to their lyrics.
Well it's really bad if the Christian people listen to
their lyrics and if it lures them to that, yeahhh I call that bad.
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post Mar 18 2005, 09:02 AM
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Marilyn Manson doesn't worship the devil, so I think his music is fine. He's also a very strong-minded person, and he's actually very opinionated in his views. He's a good person, overall
 
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post Mar 19 2005, 09:35 PM
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Ugh.
Yes, you most certainly can be a Christian and listen to him.
I listen to him. *shrugs*
I don't see what the big deal is.
Just because you listen to a band/artist that SEEMS to be anti-what-you-are doesn't mean it'll change the way you worship.
 

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