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sheepskin..., animal cruelty?! |
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I love you <33333 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,928 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 30,404 ![]() |
thats definatly NOT animal cruelty. Thats basically the same thing as shaving a dog. but if you literally skin the animal, then yes, that is.
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QUOTE sheep are made to be used by humans... if they werent used then thed die because of all their wool... Animals exist for their own purposes...none are "made" for people. Sheep skin farming is obviously animal cruelty because they are killing the sheep for their skin, which is ridiculous considering we live in the 21st century and animal skin imitations are just like the real thing. The shearing of a sheep's wool would not be cruel if it were done properly and carefully, but alas I've read that sheep farmers are often paid by quantity and not hours spent so many rush and end up injuring the sheep in the process. Click Here |
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QUOTE(Gypsy Eyes @ Dec 30 2004, 6:43 PM) see thats kind of funny, my uncle was one until he died. I had to watch him do that. So keep your mouth shut, cause you are starting to aggrivate me ![]() you truly think that a silly article in the newspaper/magazine doesn't stretch the truth? of COURSE they will exaggerate on animal cruelty...they don`t express how most farmers DO love their farm animals and don't "purposely cut the sheep wen they shave the wool"... ooh, and you're starting to aggravate ME, since you obviously believe everything that you read, even though a lot of it is propaganda. |
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POWAPOSTA ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 3,169 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 30,725 ![]() |
QUOTE(mysticbreeze @ Jan 2 2005, 12:30 AM) Animals exist for their own purposes...none are "made" for people. Sheep skin farming is obviously animal cruelty because they are killing the sheep for their skin, which is ridiculous considering we live in the 21st century and animal skin imitations are just like the real thing. The shearing of a sheep's wool would not be cruel if it were done properly and carefully, but alas I've read that sheep farmers are often paid by quantity and not hours spent so many rush and end up injuring the sheep in the process. Click Here considering the fact that the link is from peta, i'm not believing a woooooooord you say. |
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QUOTE(mysticbreeze @ Jan 2 2005, 1:30 AM) I think what she meant was that sheep whose wool is sheared are bred for exactly that purpose. Sheep are bred by humans and would probably not exist/survive otherwise. Wild sheep? Yeah ok. Come on now folks. Are we really this worried about sheep? I mean, I'm not an advocate for animal cruelty. I love animals and don't condone abusing them. But I don't think we need to get all excited over sheep being injured from shearing or killed for their skins. It works as population control. If we didn't kill or eat any animals, we'd be overrun by them. And why sheep? No one cares about the chicken they ate last night for dinner? Or the cute little moo-cows that were last week's veal and tomorrow's leather wallet? Callie |
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if an animal cannot be domesticated, or is not useful when domesticated, it will become extinct, unless it can learn to live off of humans.
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QUOTE considering the fact that the link is from peta, i'm not believing a woooooooord you say. ...Um, the pictures are right there, what other proof do you need? QUOTE And why sheep? No one cares about the chicken they ate last night for dinner? Or the cute little moo-cows that were last week's veal and tomorrow's leather wallet? Callie ...I'm a vegetarian so yeah... |
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PETA= terrorist organization.
i trust thier info as much as i trust al queda's |
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gigi =p ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 3,679 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 41,206 ![]() |
I don't know anyone who thinks shearing sheep is cruel. And why would they? It's just shaving the wool off. It's not like you're skinning the sheep...
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QUOTE PETA= terrorist organization. i trust thier info as much as i trust al queda's What an idiotic statement. |
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how, exactly, is that an idiotic statement?
PETA has been known to bomb places that do animal testing. PETA has pasted out pamhlets to kindergarteners that say 'Your mommy kills animals" and included many graphic pictures, unsutable for kids of that age. PETA has done protests on private property, and refused police requests to go away and had to be arrested. PETA has done protests on public property without a permit in order and refused police requests to go away and had to be arrested. PETA haas 'liberated' (a.k.a. stolen) animals that are kept by breeders, or companies that do animal testing. PETA is currently claiming that fish have deep feelings and emotions and is saying that comercial fishermen should anethetitize the fish before they kill or gut them. PETA also claims that animals are not in any way phisiologically, mentally, anatomically, scientifically, chemically, etc. like humans and thus animal testing is usless, and then they claim animals are just like humans and should be treated as such. PETA also claims in vitro tests are a better thing than animal testing, which is false. but they still claim it. PETA fails to mention that when makeup is not tested on animals, bad things happen. I.E., one company sold a mascera without testing it on animals. 100 people went blind because of it. PETA is a terrorist organization. unless you're talking about PETA (people eating tasty animals) which is not a terrorist organization. |
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POWAPOSTA ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 3,169 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 30,725 ![]() |
^agreed.
i'm copying what i said in another thread, but it fits in here. and because i'm lazy. and peta just sucks. they are totally FOR the killing of any animal they believe is "scary", aka, the pit bull. which are completely stable, smart, playful, family loving pets, IF PROPERLY TRAINED (isn't it like that with all dogs?). mind you, they don't even support people having pets, QUOTE I don’t use the word 'pet. I prefer 'companion animal.' For one thing, we would no longer allow breeding. People could not create different breeds. There would be no pet shops. If people had companion animals in their homes, those animals would have to be refugees from the animal shelters and the streets. You would have a protective relationship with them just as you would with an orphaned child. But as the surplus of cats and dogs (artificially engineered by centuries of forced breeding) declined, eventually companion animals would be phased out, and we would return to a more symbiotic relationship – enjoyment at a distance. they spend more of their donated money to advertise themsevles, rather than, i don't know, maybe actually HELPING the animals. "PETA's donations totaled only $206,655.58, but they had a total revenue of almost $14 Million. PETA spent the following on 1. PETA TV - Expense - $13,268.84 2. Electronic equipment, computers, cameras - Expense- $33,869.24 3. Automobiles - Expense - $148,362.02 4. SNAP Vehicle - Expense - $150,000.00 5. Buildings and improvements - Expense - $295,101.60 (After a $195,000 donation of property) 6. Land - Expense - 94,170.00" kind of looks like about less then one precent went to do what peta is "all about". they also donated thosands of dollars to ELF or ALF, both activist extremists. both under FBI watch for terrorsim in arson, bombings, cutting the brake lines on fishery trucks, breaking and entering, destruction of government and organizational research laboratories and murder. because we all have no problem supporting terrorism. "If we really believe that animals have the same right to be free from pain and suffering at our hands, then, of course we’re going to be, as a movement, blowing things up and smashing windows … I think it’s a great way to bring about animal liberation … I think it would be great if all of the fast-food outlets, slaughterhouses, these laboratories, and the banks that fund them exploded tomorrow. I think it's perfectly appropriate for people to take bricks and toss them through the windows ... Hallelujah to the people who are willing to do it." - vegan campaign coordinator of PETA, “Animal Rights 2001” conference no comment to that. haha. they're hypocrites. they are against using animal research in the medial field. yet vice president willingly injects insulin for her diabetes. she says she needs her life fighting for animals. if that wasn't enough, try this, "Even if animal tests produced a cure for AIDS, we’d be against it" wow. lets kill million humans, in the present and future, just to save some animals lives? |
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QUOTE(Honorguard @ Dec 30 2004, 6:29 PM) Sheep wool shouldn't be considered animal cruelty because they shave their coats off but mindless farmers hurt their sheep in the process, so peta declared it animal cruelty. Shep skin is animal cruelty because you kill the sheep for their skin, simple as that. exactly what i was going to say |
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Whenever I get one of those stupid surveys from Peta I fill it out, then sit down and have a nice steak. Animal cruelty? Big whoop, theres people being tortured all over the world andliving in poverty and we have a company that uses more than $50 million trying to save chickens and sheep?! I can understand trying to save endangered animals, or an animals along the lines of monkeys, chimps, zebras, elephants, etc, but sheep?! Somebody give me a break.
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