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 Dec 28 2004, 06:43 PM
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 Quand j'étais jeune...  Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272  |
Then we're back to square one?
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Dec 28 2004, 06:47 PM
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 dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
QUOTE Anyone who believes in god is a christian. It's not everyone who believes in god is a catholic. no... anyone who belives jesus was the christ is christian. don't have to belive in god, as long as you belive in jesus. 
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Dec 28 2004, 08:28 PM
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to hell with you Group: Member Posts: 2,547 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,506 |
personally, i think that both christianaity and catholocism are both the same thing.
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Dec 28 2004, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE(kriziaandrei2 @ Dec 28 2004, 4:36 PM) no it's not. i just said that if someone believed in Jesus Christ, then they are christian ... but it doesnt show that Catholosism is a form of Christianity no. it does so. do catholics believe in christ? yes that means that catholics are christian, because they believe in christ QUOTE personally, i think that both christianaity and catholocism are both the same thing.  um, no.QUOTE Anyone who believes in god is a christian. It's not everyone who believes in god is a catholic. no. muslims believe in God, they just call him allah. but that doesnt make them christian because they dont believe in Jesus. like Jews. they believe in the same God, because Jesus was a Jew, but theyre not christian. |
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Dec 28 2004, 10:43 PM
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You know what I meanm don't be so literal....although I was being literal......
Either way, just replace the word god with christ and what I said makes perfect sense. |
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Dec 28 2004, 10:51 PM
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oh. i had no clue you meant that. i had no clue you wrote that. but one replacements are made, right
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Dec 30 2004, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE(tweeak @ Dec 27 2004, 11:50 AM) so were at a bit of a disagreement. i think catholocism is a form of christianity, and she thinks christianity is a form of catholocism. help me out here, and state which you think and why former arguements can be found in the merry christmas etc thread  actually.... catholicism is a form of christianity okay, to prove this, when the byzantines ruled, they divided theyre empire into the left sect which were the catholics and the right sect, which were orthodox now, the orthodox, were the original believers, catholics, updated christianity as it stands and then from there, broke apart many more religions such as methodist etc |
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Dec 30 2004, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE(tweeak @ Dec 27 2004, 5:02 PM) see merry christmas vs happy holidays topic. although catholocism is a form of christianity, person kraizisomethingortother2 insists otherwise. even though i offered excessive historical evidance, she still insists otherwise no. still you  heres the diagram i made before. sorts out the history of it. THANK YOU!! I AGREE WITH EXACTLY WHAT YOU HAVE IN THE DIAGRAM 100% most people don't believe that christianity was broken up into catholicism and orthodox first :) oh and the whole catholics side made up a new calendar and the orthodox side kept up with the old one THEREFORE thats why my christmas is on the 7th of january and the old new years is on the 14th of january, even though i still celebrate new years on the 31st haha |
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Dec 31 2004, 03:43 AM
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dumb catholics... i mean... why do you go to that aerobic class every sunday? you HAVE to neil, stand up, bow, neil stand up, bow...walk all the way up to the front and back.. wtf? ... jeez... my friend is catholic and he called it an aeobic class rather than church...
just go to a regualr church. okayy?? 
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Dec 31 2004, 11:21 AM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(kriziaandrei2 @ Dec 30 2004, 5:35 PM) RELIGION ISNT REALLY ONE OF MY BEST SUBJECTS.... but that still doesnt change what i think..... It should. That is how we educate ourselves and move on and that's how we mature as humans. As in if something is proven right, no contest, then you should at least take it into consideration instead of brushing it off as false just because you think it's false. Remember that many people thought that Galileo was false? Well, time proved them wrong. |
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Dec 31 2004, 11:34 AM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
QUOTE dumb catholics... i mean... why do you go to that aerobic class every sunday? you HAVE to neil, stand up, bow, neil stand up, bow...walk all the way up to the front and back.. wtf? ... jeez... my friend is catholic and he called it an aeobic class rather than church... just go to a regualr church. okayy?? mellow.gif pointless bashing... i wonder, if maybe you could spell kneel right... anyways; catholics probably say "what's that church they go to? grape juice and crackers? what happened to wine and bread? " |
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Dec 31 2004, 11:37 AM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(Zyryll @ Dec 31 2004, 3:43 AM) dumb catholics You're the dumb one. I'm sorry if I've offended anyone, but I'm just a straightforward kind of gal. |
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Dec 31 2004, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE(kriziaandrei2 @ Dec 30 2004, 5:35 PM) ^^ FINE! I GIVE UP!! bleh..... RELIGION ISNT REALLY ONE OF MY BEST SUBJECTS.... but that still doesnt change what i think..... what? how can it not change what you think? how can you be that set in your incorrect thoughts not to realize it? whos opinion would you actually respect? jordan and i have both given you accurate historical accounts of why catholocism is a form of christianity and you still dont believe it? how? i dont get it. how can you say you give up and then keep thinking incorrectly? QUOTE dumb catholics... i mean... why do you go to that aerobic class every sunday? you HAVE to neil, stand up, bow, neil stand up, bow...walk all the way up to the front and back.. wtf? ... jeez... my friend is catholic and he called it an aeobic class rather than church... just go to a regualr church. okayy?? what the hell? your ignorance is disgusting. and youre not funny. |
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Dec 31 2004, 04:09 PM
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 ¢¾ Wanting it. ¢¾ Group: Member Posts: 2,060 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 39,234 |
.... it is a form of christianity...................................
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Dec 31 2004, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(kriziaandrei2 @ Dec 31 2004, 4:08 PM) cux i dont have anything to back it up! you have history! you have common sense! |
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Dec 31 2004, 08:54 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(kriziaandrei2 @ Dec 31 2004, 8:01 PM) damn thing loaned me a bible and told me to read the whole thing and then i would have reasons.... Hahahahah, lots of Priests and Ministers do that! They would give you the Bible to read when they can't seem to answer something. Hahahahaha!!! That's what happened to my friend... Actually, that's kind of sad...... |
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Jan 1 2005, 12:11 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(kriziaandrei2 @ Jan 1 2005, 1:07 AM) can say that again.... so you guys WIN! i lost...  Not really. We can't seem to convince you of anything, let alone change your mind. |
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Jan 1 2005, 12:52 PM
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 The Secret Hacker. Group: Member Posts: 1,780 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 18,712 |
yikes.... hmmm how should i say this.... The Catholic Church worships the Virgin Mary, and they have statues and stuff of her. and the Protestants consider that idolatry (im protestant), b/c the catholics are worshipping the virgin mary. That's what makes protestants and catholics differ. Also, Catholocism has celibacy and transsubstanation.
Protestantism believes in justification of faith. Catholocism believes in baby baptisim. Like that person said, Christianity is the parent term. QUOTE personally, i think that both christianaity and catholocism are both the same thing. nope. christianity (or protestantism, since ur saying christianity and catholocism), differ from catholics. try studying about the Reformation, yu'll see a big difference. |
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Jan 1 2005, 12:55 PM
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^actually, some protestants baptise young too. my methodist raised brothers are 1 and 3 years old, and theyve both been baptized. also, catholics have confirmation, which im going through right now, so thats not quite right
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Jan 1 2005, 04:15 PM
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The Secret Hacker. Group: Member Posts: 1,780 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 18,712 |
interesting. i never knew that, but oh well.
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Jan 1 2005, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE(kriziaandrei2 @ Dec 31 2004, 8:01 PM) ^^ but then i gotta read the whole Bible (new Testament) that's what the Priest at my Church told me.... he wouldnt help me out by just saying his reason.... damn thing loaned me a bible and told me to read the whole thing and then i would have reasons.... and plus! i'm not a good debator as you can see.... well, why dont you read the whole Bible.... maybe that would help in your arguement.... because as you can see, most of us have a couple of pages of reasons of why we believe this is so. History has proved it to be so. Also, wasnt it named after Christ? Or, is that not it. |
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Jan 1 2005, 10:46 PM
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I love you <33333 Group: Member Posts: 2,928 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 30,404 |
yes...I'm catholic and i think catholosism is a form of christianity.
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Jan 2 2005, 02:47 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 7,048 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 22,696 |
QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Dec 27 2004, 5:13 PM) also: these are groups and sub groups, in order of largest to smallest. monotheism- christianity- catholicism- orthodox each group contains the groups to it's right, and is part of the groups to it's left actually id have to disagree with you on this one acid, orthodox is not part of catholicism orthodox means tradition belief the catholic side upgraded their beliefs. I believe Constantine added Paganism to Catholicism to make it newer. However, Orthodox, stayed with the old belief of Christianity, which, was the religion that everyon from Christianity had before the Byzantines made their Eastern empire stay with the old beliefs and they themselves made up newer beliefs for Christianity. And also, most of the Christian icons from Orthodoxy are older and the paintings of how the saints look are more traditional. :) So, therefore, it would be Monotheism--Christianity WHICH divided into the old believers of orthodox, and the more contemporary Catholicism. :) |
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Jan 2 2005, 03:25 PM
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 blahblahblah. Group: Member Posts: 690 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 67,045 |
QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Dec 27 2004, 7:19 PM) I'm appalled at how many people claim they're a part of a religious organization, yet know less about it than someone who isn't a part of their religious group. How sad. And to think, those are the same people who usually push their beliefs in other people's faces claiming their religion is the only truth. so true....... 
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Jan 2 2005, 05:26 PM
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 the Ray... it filters through Group: Member Posts: 575 Joined: Dec 2004 Member No: 76,081 |
Your friend's nuts... Catholicism is a branch of Christianity.. just like Protestantism, Eastern Orthodox... etc..
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