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Utah: Making miscarriages a crime?
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post Mar 1 2010, 11:23 AM
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Just weeks after entertaining a plan to save money by making 12th grade optional, lawmakers in the Beehive State are again provoking national controversy. Under a bill that has passed the legislature and awaits signature by the governor, miscarriages that result from an "intentional, knowing, or reckless act" would be treated as illegal abortions, punishable by life in prison. As a response to a single incident in which a woman allegedly paid a man to beat her and induce a miscarriage, has Utah gone too far?

This bill is scary: This is a terribly idea generally, but the use of the word "reckless" is "especially concerning," says Anna North at Jezebel. Under the terms of this law, women could be prosecuted if they "failed to wear a seat belt"—or even if they "fell down the stairs." It's bad enough when legislators target "abortion providers," but this law "targets women themselves."
"The next anti-choice target: Miscarriage"

It's about protecting lives: This bill is only aimed at those who "arrange to terminate their pregnancies illegally," says state Sen. Margaret Dayton ®, a sponsor of the bill, in the Salt Lake Tribune. Such as the Utah woman who allegedly paid a man $150 to beat her and cause miscarriage. "Reckless behavior" is deliberately vague: "I don't think we want to go down the road of carefully defining" what it might entail.
"Measure on illegal abortions heads to governor"

The bill isn't even logical: Where will this insanity end? asks Dan Savage in The Stranger. Will Utah launch a criminal investigation "every time a woman has a miscarriage?" One in four pregnancies end that way. Utah will either have to create a "pregnancy registry" to keep track, or force every women in the state to "come in for mandatory pregnancy tests" once a month. Surely not even Utah would go that far, would it?
"When miscarriages are a crime"


http://www.theweek.com/article/index/10673...rriages_a_crime


watcha think about something like this ?
 
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post Mar 1 2010, 03:11 PM
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damned mormons
 
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post Mar 1 2010, 05:22 PM
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I heard about that yesterday, I was like wtf is this shit
 
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post Mar 1 2010, 05:56 PM
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damned mormons

 
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post Mar 1 2010, 05:59 PM
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Horrible
 
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post Mar 1 2010, 06:03 PM
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Overall, I think that this idea is not thought out well at all. A woman cannot help it or not if she miscarries.
What do they mean by reckless acts anyways? as in what do you have to do that counts as being reckless?

And I guess one thing to this is that if a woman knows that she is pregnant and is trying to hurt herself to kill the child (instead of giving it away or an appropriate abortion) they could get some trouble from it.

But anyways bad idea is bad
 
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post Mar 1 2010, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE(Uso @ Mar 1 2010, 06:03 PM) *
Overall, I think that this idea is not thought out well at all. A woman cannot help it or not if she miscarries.
What do they mean by reckless acts anyways? as in what do you have to do that counts as being reckless?

And I guess one thing to this is that if a woman knows that she is pregnant and is trying to hurt herself to kill the child (instead of giving it away or an appropriate abortion) they could get some trouble from it.

But anyways bad idea is bad


Exaclty what is bolded. Attempting to make that a crime is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
 
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post Mar 1 2010, 08:27 PM
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Stupid shit like this makes more useless laws and regulations.
 
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post Mar 1 2010, 09:05 PM
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Oh ok sorry I kind-of scanned through that article

But I agree that this is just ridiculous overall. It prolly wont pass
 
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post Mar 1 2010, 09:18 PM
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I THINK THIS WOMAN POLITICAL LADY IS VERY SMART AND GIVES WOMEN A GOOD NAME I AM HAPPY WE HAVE SUCH SMART WOMEN IN OUR POLITICAL SYSTEM I HOPE TO ONE DAY FALLOW IN THE STEPS OF Margaret Dayton AND BE AS SUCCESSFUL AND SMART AS SHE IS BECAUSE Margaret Dayton IS A SMART LADY I WISHED I LIVED IN Utah BECAUSE IT ROCKS.

JC, please share with us your thoughts and or feelings.
 

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