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Tomates
post Aug 23 2009, 10:25 PM
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Im not really looking for a domain yet, but maybe in the future i will someday.
For the moment i just want to make layouts for people to use for their website?

Though for some reason i feel so clueless sad.gif
 
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post Aug 23 2009, 10:32 PM
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How about gabi girl? Or gabe? or guppie?

QUOTE(Tomates @ Aug 23 2009, 10:25 PM) *
Im not really looking for a domain yet, but maybe in the future i will someday.
For the moment i just want to make layouts for people to use for their website?

Though for some reason i feel so clueless sad.gif



Then use wamp. Or if you want it to be online I can give you, whatever.josephbcohen.com or whatever.wefuze.com.

http://www.wampserver.com/en/download.php
Then put all the files that you wan to test, go to computer wamp and put them in www. Then open wampserver and go to localhost/ in the address bar. It will work like a server would.

Ill send you the zip file as soon as I can figure out how to make it so you can have separate keywords for each page which is new to me.
 
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post Aug 23 2009, 10:34 PM
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How bout you just stick to my real name.

Tomates, if you need a tester page, let me know.
 
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post Aug 23 2009, 10:38 PM
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Ok, Gabbee it is :)
 
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post Aug 23 2009, 11:27 PM
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Here you go Nat.
Whole Website Template
 
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post Aug 23 2009, 11:31 PM
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I suggest that you learn how to code from scratch. I find that if you understand the language well enough, Dreamweaver does make designing much easier (even at the cost of some extraneous coding). But really, when it all boils down, your users probably won't care if you have "bloated code" or not. What is more efficient for you (and eventually your clients) should be what's important.

Personally, I think you should start learning PHP. I think when it comes to separating novice programmers/designers to more "legit" web developers, you need to learn some sort of dynamic code. PHP, I think, is the easiest to learn and the quickest to master. I know it's a loaded statement, but knowing the ins and outs of PHP is not as bad as it seems.

I have to give credit to www.lynda.com for the skyrocketing improvement I've made since I started "becoming serious" about web development. It's an online library full of video tutorials that is in-depth about an enormous number of topics for $25 a month. It's worth the price.
 
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post Aug 23 2009, 11:50 PM
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^is there a 30 day trial? I watched some tutorials on someone elses account nd LOVE how that site runs.
 
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post Aug 23 2009, 11:51 PM
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There isn't but I mean I go through about four different movies in a week. It's WELL WORTH the $25.

After only a week and a half, I've become really fluent with Dreamweaver's workflow, AS3, and OOP in PHP. I'm working on learning JS right now.
 
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post Aug 24 2009, 12:12 AM
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There is a 1 day trial though. Im going to wait till I get our new internet which runs at 6mb a second and go download crazy.

But it looks like right now I can watch every video. Or does it disable it after I watch a few?
 
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post Aug 24 2009, 02:54 AM
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I have a unlimited volume code for the macromedia 8 suite, which includes macromedia dreamweaver, I think it was the second to last version before adobe bought the suite from macromedia. It's completely legit volume code, it was for when I was going to Florida Virtual School. I never had to send back the materials. So, if you want it, PM me. You'll have to find the download elsewhere... the cd is too badly scratched to read unfortunately.

QUOTE(jcp @ Aug 24 2009, 01:12 AM) *
There is a 1 day trial though. Im going to wait till I get our new internet which runs at 6mb a second and go download crazy.

But it looks like right now I can watch every video. Or does it disable it after I watch a few?

You can find very similar video tutorials on youtube joseph.
 
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post Aug 24 2009, 09:34 AM
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well ill be using the cs4 suite so no point. But what is so great about lynda is that there are whole movies. not 10 minute low qaulity tutorials.
 
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post Aug 24 2009, 07:39 PM
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^ Right. I mean they have a few of the movies available for free, but to get really in-depth in some of the topics, you'll need to subscribe. Personally, I think for what you're getting in a month, $25 is a steal. They really don't miss a beat when it comes to learning about an entire subject. (They even have a 2x speed mode on their new beta player. I've been zipping through entire tutorial topics in a few hours instead of a few days now.)
 
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post Aug 24 2009, 07:42 PM
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O! I love that idea. Ill subscribe for just a month at some point. But it realy is a steal cause a book on photoshop costs 50 dollars and it takes weeks to read.
 
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post Aug 24 2009, 07:45 PM
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^ Right. It's really great too because you can work with the code right next to the player or the program that you're trying to learn and do it yourself without having to switch back and forth.
 
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post Aug 24 2009, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE(jcp @ Aug 24 2009, 12:27 AM) *
Here you go Nat.
Whole Website Template

Thanks~

QUOTE(JonHMChan @ Aug 24 2009, 12:31 AM) *
I suggest that you learn how to code from scratch. I find that if you understand the language well enough, Dreamweaver does make designing much easier (even at the cost of some extraneous coding). But really, when it all boils down, your users probably won't care if you have "bloated code" or not. What is more efficient for you (and eventually your clients) should be what's important.

Personally, I think you should start learning PHP. I think when it comes to separating novice programmers/designers to more "legit" web developers, you need to learn some sort of dynamic code. PHP, I think, is the easiest to learn and the quickest to master. I know it's a loaded statement, but knowing the ins and outs of PHP is not as bad as it seems.

I have to give credit to www.lynda.com for the skyrocketing improvement I've made since I started "becoming serious" about web development. It's an online library full of video tutorials that is in-depth about an enormous number of topics for $25 a month. It's worth the price.

Yeah, i know i should make it myself, but i guess i just want something to look off of to help me out a tad.
 
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post Aug 24 2009, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE(Tomates @ Aug 24 2009, 09:06 PM) *
Thanks~
Yeah, i know i should make it myself, but i guess i just want something to look off of to help me out a tad.

Don't get me wrong. Dreamweaver is an absolutely amazing program. But it's probably best to at least get familiar with the PHP that will make your site stand out amongst the rest.
 
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post Aug 25 2009, 01:32 PM
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Hey Jon! I have an account with lynda.com now! Could you suggest some good movies to watch. I know there are a few for each program. Id like to watch a php one, a javascript one,maybe one in flash, photoshop, or illustrator.
 
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post Aug 25 2009, 09:25 PM
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^ PHP Essentials Training, Dreamweaver CS4 Essentials training (if you don't know it), Flash CS4 Essentials Training, and I haven't checked out Javascript yet, but you should check that out any let me know.

You really just can't go wrong with it. Really.
 
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post Aug 25 2009, 09:40 PM
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I download php esential training. Photoshop for the web. Javasript essential training and Creating a First Web Site with Flash CS4 Professional. ps, to download get downthemall firefox add on. Open a video, then open downthem all select the .mov file and download it. I had 10mb/s download so I download 1.3gb of video.
 
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post Aug 31 2009, 08:56 PM
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DreamWeaver, I have seen it do some bloated coding, but when a website loads in milliseconds it doesn't matter if it has extra code or not.

DreamWeaver is also good for everything beyond HTML, which is why I use it. It makes editing PHP files simplistic, when locating a given error in a PHP file DreamWeaver makes it easier, unlike say Notepad or something of that nature.

Stay away from flash, it's literally useless unless you are doing videos. Every time I see a fully flash based website it reminds me of the few months before Web 2.0 caught on, it's unpractical and ugly as hell.

I used references to learn HTML, PHP, Coldfusion, MySQL, ASP and a little Java. Found a website I liked, and ripped it apart until I found what i wanted to use.
 
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post Oct 13 2009, 06:32 PM
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Another thing I would recommend is copying a code and basically tearing it apart. Try putting different numbers in and such to see where it relocates. I actually don't mind if people use my coding because I know how hard it is to make your own, so if you want mine to see how it works then just PM me.
 
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post Oct 13 2009, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(medic @ Aug 31 2009, 08:56 PM) *
Every time I see a fully flash based website it reminds me of the few months before Web 2.0 caught on, it's unIMpractical and ugly as hell.


Whoah where the f*ck are you looking? I have seen some fantastically beautiful flash-based sites that made me super jealous of teh flash skillz. That said, there's a lot of ActionScript behind it.
 
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post Oct 14 2009, 12:57 AM
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QUOTE(medic @ Aug 31 2009, 09:56 PM) *
Stay away from flash, it's literally useless unless you are doing videos. Every time I see a fully flash based website it reminds me of the few months before Web 2.0 caught on, it's unpractical and ugly as hell.


Obviously, it has it's drawbacks (SEO problems) but it has some sound advantages over CSS/XHTML sites (motion, interactivity). Just like any other tool, Flash has it's place and has to be utilized properly.

You seem to have a problem with the poor design a lot of Flash websites have, but there are loads of terrible CSS sites as well.

See:

http://www.v5design.com/
http://www.sensisoft.com/

Flash is not impractical or "ugly as hell" by itself.
 
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post Oct 14 2009, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE(waccoon @ Oct 14 2009, 01:57 AM) *

And the like: http://you-inspire.me/gallery/web/flash

CSS is actually on its way to catching up with Flash functionality. In CSS3, you can do audio and motion tweens. And therein lies the amazing Safari 4. If you have Safari 4, check this out: http://www.apple.com/safari/welcome/ That's entirely CSS and HTML5.
 
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post Oct 15 2009, 10:54 AM
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If you want to make a dynamic website especially using java based you can use eclipse.
 

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