Windows 7, Is the best Microshit Windows I\'ve used. |
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 Apr 2 2009, 11:52 AM
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Apr 2 2009, 12:03 PM
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Does that bar at the bottom come with it or did you download it online?
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Apr 2 2009, 12:30 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 |
QUOTE build 7000? Is there a better build? o.O; |
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Apr 2 2009, 12:36 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 |
Ah I see build 7057 is better... BRB downloading it!
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Apr 2 2009, 12:43 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 |
Ah I see build 7057 is better... BRB downloading it!
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Apr 2 2009, 06:53 PM
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 ;p Group: Member Posts: 280 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 17,685 |
lol before you dl 7057, google 7068 :]
7070 might be the final rc1 build. it's gettin closer 'n closer to rtm and oem  .
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Apr 2 2009, 07:01 PM
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 /人◕‿‿◕人\ Group: Official Member Posts: 8,283 Joined: Dec 2007 Member No: 602,927 |
Tampon just W7 noob'd twice.
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Apr 3 2009, 10:25 AM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 |
QUOTE(six @ Apr 2 2009, 07:53 PM)  lol before you dl 7057, google 7068 :] 7070 might be the final rc1 build. it's gettin closer 'n closer to rtm and oem .Nice, thanks for the info... there's a few programs (that are in fact 64bit) that won't install onto Windows 7. The primary one being Nvidia's, "ntune". I would like to install that.. Hopefully the later builds will recognize or be compatible with that specific program. I didn't know that the builds made a difference as so long you get all updates. But tonight I'll see where I can find the 7068 build, thanks again six! 
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Apr 3 2009, 10:29 AM
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Senior Member Group: Official Designer Posts: 5,880 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 593,382 |
Do you now prefer windows 7 to linux?
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Apr 3 2009, 10:37 AM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 |
No. LOL
Linux is infinitely stable. And way more secure... and plus it's really really light. For example, Windows 7 is about 3GB in size before it's extracted onto a HDD. While Ubuntu 8.10 is right below 700mb. Not only that.. the one thing that drives me nuts about Vista and Long Horn/7 is that you have to go from A-Z just to get to C, if that makes any sense. The whole layout of their navigation (ei. Start Menu) is horrible. OS' are examined by how many clicks it takes to get around any part of the partition.. if there's too many clicks just to get around, it's rated negatively. In this case, Vista and 7 gets an F. Otherwise everything else is great. Also Windows 7 has nothing on KDE 4.2 which is pretty much a 3D desktop. Hell even Sun's Java Solaris is getting into the scene of 3D desktop for home use. |
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Apr 3 2009, 01:26 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Designer Posts: 5,880 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 593,382 |
OpenSUSE is 4Gb if you get the dvd. Im fine with how big it is cause its still light. But it has more features and whatnot. Im trying to decide between opensuse and ubuntu.
Thats why vista scores a z. Even xp gets an F. Most linux distros out of the box get a c and then after customization its an A. haha |
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Apr 3 2009, 01:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 |
Good thing I never said a damn thing about OpenSUSE. Amirite?
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Apr 3 2009, 01:45 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Designer Posts: 5,880 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 593,382 |
lol. I like suse. If you have such a powerful computer why do you care so much about how light an os is?
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Apr 3 2009, 02:11 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 |
Why do you think MAC outperforms Windows?
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Apr 3 2009, 02:18 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Designer Posts: 5,880 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 593,382 |
Because its lighter...
lol. But opensuse accomplishes what everyone wants in a os. Its light and it is full of features. Its not all about how light it is cause opensuse is way faster than ubuntu even though its bigger. |
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Apr 3 2009, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE(jcp @ Apr 3 2009, 03:18 PM) Because its lighter... lol. But opensuse accomplishes what everyone wants in a os. Its light and it is full of features. Its not all about how light it is cause opensuse is way faster than ubuntu even though its bigger. Cool beans. |
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Apr 6 2009, 04:12 PM
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hmm i see how it has the DOCK like macs do.. it looks cool!
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Apr 6 2009, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE(Jonathan-Andrew @ Apr 6 2009, 05:12 PM) hmm i see how it has the DOCK like macs do.. it looks cool! It doesn't. That's still an addon. Though, the taskbar is pretty intuitive. |
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Apr 30 2009, 12:52 PM
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Is it worth abandoning Linux?
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May 3 2009, 01:39 PM
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lol no. Only because Linux is infinitely stable and secure. Windows now has eye candy, but it cannot be manipulated as well as you can in Linux. Windows typically needs like 10 services or processes to be active in order for Windows to run.
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May 3 2009, 01:43 PM
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QUOTE(illriginal @ May 3 2009, 02:39 PM) Windows typically needs like 10 services or processes to be active in order for Windows to run. Linux requires quite a few processes, too: CODE brki164-lnx-26 mdippery $ ps ax PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND 1 ? Ss 0:10 init [5] 2 ? S< 0:00 [migration/0] 3 ? SN 0:00 [ksoftirqd/0] 4 ? S< 0:00 [watchdog/0] 5 ? S< 0:01 [events/0] 6 ? S< 0:00 [khelper] 7 ? S< 0:00 [kthread] 10 ? S< 0:23 [kblockd/0] 11 ? S< 0:00 [kacpid] 85 ? S< 0:00 [cqueue/0] 88 ? S< 0:00 [khubd] 90 ? S< 0:00 [kseriod] 152 ? S< 3:55 [kswapd0] 153 ? S< 0:00 [aio/0] 312 ? S< 0:00 [kpsmoused] 335 ? S< 0:00 [ata/0] 336 ? S< 0:00 [ata_aux] 339 ? S< 0:00 [scsi_eh_0] 340 ? S< 0:00 [scsi_eh_1] 351 ? S< 0:00 [ksnapd] 354 ? S< 1:54 [kjournald] 387 ? S< 0:00 [kauditd] 421 ? S<s 0:01 /sbin/udevd -d 3676 ? S 0:02 [pdflush] 3994 ? S< 0:00 [kmpathd/0] 4020 ? S< 0:00 [kjournald] 4619 ? Ss 0:01 /sbin/dhclient -1 -q -lf /var/lib/dhclient/dhclient-e 4695 ? S<sl 0:01 auditd 4697 ? S<sl 0:00 /sbin/audispd 4713 ? Ss 0:01 /usr/sbin/restorecond 4724 ? Ss 0:03 syslogd -m 0 4727 ? Ss 0:00 klogd -x 4753 ? Ss 0:23 mcstransd 4766 ? Ss 0:00 portmap 4779 ? Ssl 0:09 /usr/bin/python -E /usr/sbin/setroubleshootd 4800 ? Ss 0:00 rpc.statd 4836 ? Ss 0:01 rpc.idmapd 4855 ? Ssl 1:08 dbus-daemon --system 4867 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/hcid 4893 ? S< 0:00 [krfcommd] 4934 ? Ssl 0:30 pcscd 5056 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/hidd --server 5075 ? Ssl 0:04 automount 5094 ? Ssl 0:48 /usr/sbin/nscd 5106 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/acpid 5117 ? Ss 0:00 ./hpiod 5128 ? S 0:00 python ./hpssd.py 5167 ? Ss 0:00 xinetd -stayalive -pidfile /var/run/xinetd.pid 5181 ? SLs 0:00 ntpd -u ntp:ntp -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -g 5202 ? Ss 0:00 sendmail: accepting connections 5210 ? Ss 0:00 sendmail: Queue runner@01:00:00 for /var/spool/client 5222 ? Ss 0:00 gpm -m /dev/input/mice -t exps2 5226 ? Ssl 0:00 /usr/libexec/bonobo-activation-server --ac-activate - 5233 ? Ss 0:00 crond 5291 ? Ss 0:11 xfs -droppriv -daemon 5312 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/atd 5326 ? Sl 0:06 /usr/local/tripwire/tfs/bin/twagent 5365 ? Ss 0:01 rhnsd --interval 120 5387 ? Ss 7:29 avahi-daemon: running [brki164-lnx-26.local] 5388 ? Ss 0:00 avahi-daemon: chroot helper 5389 ? SN 6:03 /usr/bin/python -tt /usr/sbin/yum-updatesd 5391 ? SN 0:02 /usr/libexec/gam_server 5402 ? Ss 0:15 hald 5403 ? S 0:00 hald-runner 5410 ? S 0:00 hald-addon-acpi: listening on acpid socket /var/run/a 5412 ? S 0:02 hald-addon-keyboard: listening on /dev/input/event1 5425 ? S 19:58 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/hda 5507 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/smartd -q never 5512 tty1 Ss+ 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty1 5513 tty2 Ss+ 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty2 5514 tty3 Ss+ 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty3 5515 tty4 Ss+ 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty4 5536 tty5 Ss+ 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty5 5537 tty6 Ss+ 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty6 9515 ? Ssl 0:00 /usr/libexec/bonobo-activation-server --ac-activate - 11202 ? Ssl 0:00 /usr/libexec/bonobo-activation-server --ac-activate - 16221 ? Ss 0:22 cupsd 16222 ? S 2:40 cups-polld unixprint.eg.bucknell.edu 631 120 631 16401 ? S 0:01 [pdflush] 17923 ? S< 0:00 [rpciod/0] 17924 ? S 0:00 [lockd] 17925 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/gnome-session 17959 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /bin/sh -c exec -l /bin/bash -c "/ 18008 ? S 0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session /etc/X11/xin 18009 ? Ssl 0:00 /bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 4 --print-address 18016 ? S 0:01 /usr/libexec/gconfd-2 5 18019 ? S 0:00 /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon 18021 ? Sl 0:00 /usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon 18026 ? S 0:00 /usr/libexec/gam_server 18038 ? Ss 0:06 metacity --sm-client-id=default1 18042 ? Ss 0:01 gnome-panel --sm-client-id default2 18044 ? Ss 0:01 nautilus --no-default-window --sm-client-id default3 18047 ? Ss 0:00 gnome-volume-manager --sm-client-id default5 18049 ? Ssl 0:00 /usr/libexec/bonobo-activation-server --ac-activate - 18051 ? Ss 0:00 eggcups --sm-client-id default4 18056 ? S 0:00 /usr/libexec/gnome-vfs-daemon 18064 ? Ss 0:00 bt-applet --sm-disable 18067 ? Ss 0:00 nm-applet --sm-disable 18073 ? Ss 0:00 pam-panel-icon --sm-client-id default0 18074 ? Sl 0:00 ./escd --key_Inserted="/usr/bin/esc" --on_Signal="/us 18078 ? S 0:00 /sbin/pam_timestamp_check -d root 18084 ? Ss 0:00 gnome-power-manager 18094 ? S 0:00 /usr/libexec/mapping-daemon 18105 ? S 0:00 /usr/libexec/wnck-applet --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GN 18107 ? S 0:00 /usr/libexec/clock-applet --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:G 18109 ? S 0:00 /usr/libexec/notification-area-applet --oaf-activate- 18111 ? S 0:00 /usr/libexec/gweather-applet-2 --oaf-activate-iid=OAF 18117 ? S 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.10/run-mozilla.sh /usr/l 18131 ? Sl 4:27 /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.10/firefox 18146 ? Ss 0:00 gnome-screensaver 19304 ? Sl 0:01 gnome-terminal --geometry 80x55 19306 ? S 0:00 gnome-pty-helper 19307 pts/1 Ss 0:00 bash 19405 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd 19416 pts/1 R+ 0:00 ps ax 25598 ? Ssl 0:00 /usr/libexec/bonobo-activation-server --ac-activate - 25935 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/gdm-binary -nodaemon 25985 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/gdm-binary -nodaemon 25987 ? Sl 0:00 /usr/libexec/gdm-rh-security-token-helper 25992 tty8 SLs+ 1:11 /usr/bin/Xorg :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/gdm/:0.Xauth 27296 ? Ssl 0:00 /usr/libexec/bonobo-activation-server --ac-activate - 32324 ? Ssl 0:00 /usr/libexec/bonobo-activation-server --ac-activate - (So okay, that's not immediately after startup...but a typical Linux-based OS requires quite a few processes to boot, and X requires quite a few processes to do its magic, too. And it's fair to include X Windows' processes, since Windows is running an window server, too. Even if you don't count X stuff, anything with a PID equal to or less than 421 in that list are processes that are basically required for the machine to do anything useful.) |
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May 3 2009, 01:48 PM
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Holy shit why do you have soooooooooooo many?!?!?!?
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May 3 2009, 01:51 PM
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QUOTE(illriginal @ May 3 2009, 02:48 PM) Holy shit why do you have soooooooooooo many?!?!?!? Why wouldn't I? This is fairly typical. Most of these processes are necessary, such as init, kernel processes (anything with a "k" in front of it is a kernel process), the system logger, anything for handling networking connections, the DHCP client process, anything for handling hardware interrupts (which includes the IRQ daemon, the daemon for checking for mouse/keyboard activity, etc.), the processes for swapping out memory... Computers do complicated shit, and most kernels -- including Linux -- spin this shit off into smaller processes. |
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May 3 2009, 03:03 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 |
I dunno, brah... I'm at work right now so I can't check but I'm pretty sure I only have like.. 6 processes running without opening anything.
Dunno what to tell ya. You have more processes current than my computer at work... lol wtf That's not common at all.. at all, at all! |
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May 3 2009, 09:00 PM
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Senior Member Group: Administrator Posts: 2,648 Joined: Apr 2008 Member No: 639,265 |
QUOTE(illriginal @ May 3 2009, 04:03 PM) I dunno, brah... I'm at work right now so I can't check but I'm pretty sure I only have like.. 6 processes running without opening anything. Dunno what to tell ya. You have more processes current than my computer at work... lol wtf That's not common at all.. at all, at all! I really doubt that on a Linux system, you only have 6 processes running -- especially once you fire up X Windows. |
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