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socialism v. capitalism:
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NoSex
post Mar 26 2009, 01:45 PM
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i view capitalism as a mode of economic & social infancy. i think that it is regressive to society, poisonous, & under-developing.

i point to these basic "flaws" in capitalism*:
1. the emphasis on profit as opposed to utility.
2. the creation of oligarchy & plutocracy.
3. the unfair/uneven distribution of wealth.
4. the creation of a significant class divide.
5. the inability of capitalism, alone, to provide the people with necessities.
6. the exploitation of the working class.
7. the existence of crime in excess, caused by class struggle, poverty, & proletariat anxiety.
8. the creation of an oppressive institution (i.e. the police state, the church, the education system) in order to secure profits to a specific & elite population.

i point to these basic "benefits" in socialism*:
1. the emphasis on utility.
2. the destruction of plutocracy & (in many forms) oligarchy.
3. the fair distribution of wealth.
4. the destruction of a significant class divide.
5. the ability of socialism to provide for its people, necessities.
6. the affirmation of the working class.
7. the absence of crime invoked by squalor & proletariat anxiety.
8. the destruction of specific oppressive institutions & the opportunity to reform the state (i.e. despite the pull of capital & profits).

DISCUSS.

*quotation marks provided for argument's sake. whatever.
 

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NoSex   socialism v. capitalism:   Mar 26 2009, 01:45 PM
kryogenix   I'm not opposed to socialistic ideals/systems ...   Mar 26 2009, 02:05 PM
illmortal   How would you define, "fair distribution of w...   Mar 26 2009, 03:05 PM
mipadi   When viewed in the context of the development of s...   Mar 26 2009, 04:56 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Mar 26 2009, 01:05 PM) ...   Mar 26 2009, 05:38 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(NoSex @ Mar 26 2009, 06:38 PM) that...   Mar 26 2009, 06:52 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(mipadi @ Mar 26 2009, 05:52 PM) Sha...   Mar 26 2009, 07:24 PM
heartquasm   QUOTE(NoSex @ Mar 26 2009, 02:45 PM) i vi...   Mar 27 2009, 02:03 AM
Uronacid   Socialism looks great on paper, but history has sh...   Mar 27 2009, 09:17 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Mar 27 2009, 10:17 AM) S...   Mar 27 2009, 09:35 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(mipadi @ Mar 27 2009, 10:35 AM) Cap...   Mar 27 2009, 10:10 AM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Mar 27 2009, 10:10 AM) E...   Mar 27 2009, 10:14 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Mar 27 2009, 11:14...   Mar 27 2009, 10:26 AM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Mar 27 2009, 10:26 AM) Y...   Mar 27 2009, 01:02 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Mar 27 2009, 02:02...   Mar 27 2009, 01:42 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Mar 27 2009, 01:42 PM) T...   Mar 27 2009, 01:51 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Mar 27 2009, 02:51...   Mar 27 2009, 02:04 PM
illmortal   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Mar 27 2009, 11:10 AM) O...   Mar 27 2009, 10:20 AM
illmortal   I think the only person able to be a great and suc...   Mar 27 2009, 09:56 AM
brooklyneast05   i duno, i mean i know a ton of people who work har...   Mar 27 2009, 10:05 AM
illmortal   Obama is a puppet... Anyways, Socialism in my o...   Mar 27 2009, 10:57 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(illmortal @ Mar 27 2009, 11:57 AM) ...   Mar 27 2009, 11:15 AM
heartquasm   QUOTE(illmortal @ Mar 27 2009, 11:57 AM) ...   Mar 31 2009, 04:59 PM
Kontroll   QUOTE(illmortal @ Mar 27 2009, 10:57 AM) ...   Apr 1 2009, 02:11 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(Kontroll @ Apr 1 2009, 03:11 AM) I ...   Apr 1 2009, 08:11 AM
Kontroll   QUOTE(mipadi @ Apr 1 2009, 08:11 AM) So w...   Apr 1 2009, 09:19 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(Kontroll @ Apr 1 2009, 10:19 PM) I...   Apr 1 2009, 10:13 PM
Kontroll   QUOTE(mipadi @ Apr 1 2009, 10:13 PM) Oh, ...   Apr 1 2009, 11:17 PM
PrinceGonnaChokeaBEECH   litt robb ppll...   Mar 27 2009, 02:08 PM
brooklyneast05   shrugs, i'm just thinking of people who have b...   Mar 27 2009, 02:08 PM
illmortal   Blame welfare. It makes people lazy and expect han...   Mar 27 2009, 02:12 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(illmortal @ Mar 27 2009, 02:12 PM) ...   Mar 27 2009, 02:15 PM
illmortal   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Mar 27 2009, 03:15...   Mar 27 2009, 02:27 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Mar 27 2009, 03:08...   Mar 27 2009, 02:17 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Mar 27 2009, 02:17 PM) L...   Mar 27 2009, 02:21 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Mar 27 2009, 03:21...   Mar 27 2009, 02:27 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Mar 27 2009, 02:27 PM) I...   Mar 27 2009, 02:30 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Mar 27 2009, 03:30...   Mar 27 2009, 02:54 PM
illmortal   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Mar 27 2009, 03:54 PM) S...   Mar 27 2009, 03:41 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(illmortal @ Mar 27 2009, 03:41 PM) ...   Mar 27 2009, 03:42 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(illmortal @ Mar 27 2009, 04:41 PM) ...   Mar 27 2009, 04:23 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Mar 27 2009, 05:23 PM) T...   Mar 27 2009, 04:31 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(mipadi @ Mar 27 2009, 05:31 PM) You...   Mar 27 2009, 04:46 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Mar 27 2009, 05:46 PM) O...   Mar 27 2009, 04:50 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(mipadi @ Mar 27 2009, 05:50 PM) A c...   Mar 27 2009, 04:53 PM
illmortal   Dood... Uronacid, in order for someone to live by ...   Mar 27 2009, 05:03 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(illmortal @ Mar 27 2009, 06:03 PM) ...   Mar 27 2009, 05:06 PM
illmortal   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Mar 27 2009, 06:06 PM) Y...   Mar 27 2009, 05:19 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(illmortal @ Mar 27 2009, 06:19 PM) ...   Mar 27 2009, 05:24 PM
illmortal   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Mar 27 2009, 06:24 PM) T...   Mar 27 2009, 05:34 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(illmortal @ Mar 27 2009, 06:34 PM) ...   Mar 27 2009, 05:41 PM
PrinceGonnaChokeaBEECH   oo.. ill blastoisee acttuullii staii mature dizz t...   Mar 28 2009, 05:07 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Mar 27 2009, 12:42 PM) I...   Mar 28 2009, 10:34 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(NoSex @ Mar 28 2009, 11:34 PM) read...   Mar 29 2009, 08:13 AM
kryogenjx   QUOTE(mipadi @ Mar 29 2009, 09:13 AM) I...   Apr 1 2009, 12:14 PM
mipadi   QUOTE(kryogenjx @ Apr 1 2009, 01:14 PM) E...   Apr 1 2009, 12:17 PM
PrinceGonnaChokeaBEECH   QUOTE(NoSex @ Mar 28 2009, 11:34 PM) what...   Mar 29 2009, 01:37 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(NoSex @ Mar 28 2009, 11:34 PM) uhm....   Mar 30 2009, 06:24 PM
illmortal   lol legitimate ghettos don't even have cable (...   Mar 30 2009, 06:40 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Mar 30 2009, 05:24 PM) J...   Mar 31 2009, 06:24 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(NoSex @ Mar 31 2009, 07:24 PM) if y...   Apr 6 2009, 01:38 PM
PrinceGonnaChokeaBEECH   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Apr 6 2009, 02:38 PM) Ju...   Apr 7 2009, 05:09 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(PrinceGonnaChokeaBEECH @ Apr 7 2009, 06...   Apr 7 2009, 05:39 PM
PrinceGonnaChokeaBEECH   ^i got this.. WATCH QUOTE(Uronacid @ Apr ...   Apr 7 2009, 05:55 PM
Uronacid   Again, you need to read.   Apr 8 2009, 10:34 AM
PrinceGonnaChokeaBEECH   QUOTEI see people in my shitty slum of a neighborh...   Apr 8 2009, 10:41 AM
Uronacid   You're a waste of time.   Apr 8 2009, 12:39 PM
PrinceGonnaChokeaBEECH   PFFT   Apr 8 2009, 01:01 PM
Uronacid   You're a waste of time.   Apr 8 2009, 02:05 PM
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Uronacid   You're a waste of time.   Apr 8 2009, 03:26 PM
PrinceGonnaChokeaBEECH   pfft   Apr 8 2009, 03:30 PM
Uronacid   You're a waste of time.   Apr 8 2009, 03:43 PM
PrinceGonnaChokeaBEECH   pfft   Apr 8 2009, 03:45 PM
Uronacid   You're a waste of time.   Apr 8 2009, 03:49 PM
PrinceGonnaChokeaBEECH   pfft   Apr 8 2009, 03:51 PM
Uronacid   You're a waste of time.   Apr 8 2009, 03:53 PM
illmortal   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Apr 6 2009, 02:38 PM) Ju...   Apr 8 2009, 07:06 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(illmortal @ Apr 8 2009, 08:06 PM) S...   Apr 9 2009, 09:39 AM
WarMachine   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Apr 9 2009, 10:39 AM) Th...   Apr 9 2009, 11:03 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(WarMachine @ Apr 9 2009, 12:03 PM) ...   Apr 9 2009, 01:02 PM
WarMachine   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Apr 9 2009, 02:02 PM) I ...   Apr 9 2009, 01:55 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(WarMachine @ Apr 9 2009, 02:55 PM) ...   Apr 9 2009, 03:27 PM
illmortal   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Apr 9 2009, 10:39 AM) Th...   Apr 9 2009, 11:48 AM
WarMachine   QUOTE(illmortal @ Apr 9 2009, 12:48 PM) C...   Apr 9 2009, 11:57 AM
NoSex   p.s. http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/03......   Apr 1 2009, 01:00 AM
kryogenjx   But he's got a ballin moustache. Check and ma...   Apr 1 2009, 12:29 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(Kontroll @ Apr 1 2009, 10:17 PM) I ...   Apr 2 2009, 04:56 PM
Kontroll   QUOTE(NoSex @ Apr 2 2009, 04:56 PM) i wou...   Apr 2 2009, 11:11 PM
Tung   o shiet.... harryy potta callin u out princee... ...   Apr 7 2009, 05:41 PM
PrinceGonnaChokeaBEECH   lol.. i can type buncha GHANDI bs.. but why..OH wa...   Apr 8 2009, 03:55 PM
PrinceGonnaChokeaBEECH   5 minutes left   Apr 8 2009, 04:06 PM
PrinceGonnaChokeaBEECH   time UP... go cry n jurk of 2 dat NUB click to en...   Apr 8 2009, 04:08 PM
Kontroll   QUOTE(PrinceGonnaChokeaBEECH @ Apr 8 2009, 04...   Apr 25 2009, 12:38 AM
Tung   goddd damn...harryy pottaa losinggg to prince...   Apr 8 2009, 06:33 PM
Tung   oh shiett... ...tama nd prince..vs. uronicccdd ...   Apr 8 2009, 07:08 PM
mike0C   Capitalism > Socialism.   Apr 23 2009, 10:06 PM
WarMachine   QUOTE(mike0C @ Apr 23 2009, 11:06 PM) Cap...   Apr 24 2009, 07:32 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(mike0C @ Apr 23 2009, 11:06 PM) Cap...   Apr 24 2009, 11:39 AM
illriginal   QUOTE(mike0C @ Apr 23 2009, 11:06 PM) Cap...   Apr 24 2009, 12:50 PM


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