As President Obama comes into office, one of the first executive orders he made was the shut down of Guantanamo Bay (terrorist Prison). Im torn between thinking what is right. If you think about the factor about America's image, we dont want to be seen as a torturing country, where on the other side (the Republicans) argues with criticism that the terrorist should be kept there and if Guantanamo is closed, where would they go?


What are your opinions ?

The prison part needs to be closed. But the base needs to stay open.

Everyone in Guantanamo Bay should have already been killed. Why don't they go ahead and execute them?

im a democrat and think that it should stay open, like you said where would they go?

Yeah, I would have killed them too (not to sound so brutal) but since the war is still going on, these prisoners are used for "interrogation"


If I had a choice, I would have had these people go to the other world already but I guess torture is more satisfing for the CIA

So? What's keeping those held there from giving false information?
Mostly, no information is better than incorrect information.




The other world? What the f*ck are you talking about?
If you mean their home countries, they already tried that. They rejected them.

haha other world like Hell heaven (sorry if your not religious) in other words, kill them.

true, no info is better then false info, but there is nothing proven that these people are giving false info

why would we kill them? you want to EXECUTE people who you haven't even tried or proved to be real criminals?

That's a shitty metaphor.


Same reason we would want to imprison people who haven't even been tried or proven to be real criminals.

which is what?

uhhh, there is a big difference between holding someone you think might be dangerous until a trial and killing them without a trial.

and that still doesn't tell me why you want to kill them.

Do any of the detainees have a scheduled trial?

^i don't honestly know. i mean i can't say that i even know or have an opinion on what should be done with everyone. but i was under the impression that they haven't been tried, so i'm definitely not executing a bunch of untried people.

I wouldn't like executing them, but they're potentially dangerous. If nobody will have them tried, there isn't much of an option really.

It's a "better safe than sorry" type of theory, I suppose.

John McCain would have closed Guantanamo.

If you establish this base on the soil of a foreign country, away from any known jurisdiction, the purpose portrayed (whether accurate or not) is that you're trying to evade American and international law. To be clear, Guantanamo is not Abu Ghraib and is far from being the American concentration camp (in its historically charged context, anyways) that many have tried to make it out to be. However, we---well, you (I'm not American) don't merely sign the Geneva Conventions; you've made it a condition that other countries follow your suit in adhering to their written code. And adhere you must.

Seriously, every detainee should be killed just to be safe? Are you consciously petitioning for America to be North Korea or Iran, or is this just something you have not examined further? My father defected from Iran for that reason. It is not a nice place to model yourself after.

You do realize the base includes "suspected" terrorists right? There might be guilty people in there but a good amount are people who were unfortunate to get captured.

Plenty of people are held there without charges, no outside contact, no way to contact legal counsel, and for an undetermined amount of time. There have been no trials because techinically/legally they aren't suppose to be held to begin with. Also, in a time of national security concerns, apparently, you can just hold them just to be safe. How is America suppose to go out there defend our democratic country when it turns around and denies people the same things we want to protect? That we're trying to enforce on a country we just invaded?

In bold. I don't really care enough about it to research it. I just post this based on what I know from TV.

Ethnic cleansing. Call it that.

And maybe a little bit of collateral damage.

Edit:
Who are you?

They are still figuring out where to put the prisoners, why do you think there doing it a year from now? What they do there is pretty much illegal. I think they should just give them to a big good prison, or something like that. Maybe i don't care what they do with them, because i honestly don't think 9/11 was a terrorist job. But i don't know, i just think they should transfer their prisons.

Who are you? Why would it matter?

That would make us the equivalent to the Nazis, the Rwandan Hutu militia, the dictators, and everything our Constitution does not stand for.

Mass murder on civilians is terrorism, whether or not you think Al-Qaeda was behind it (which is ludicrous in itself to deny when Osama bin Laden has not only bragged about the operation but openly struck out against Iran for taking credit away from him by implying that 9/11 was an inside-job of Bush's).

Yeah i didn't think about what i was saying there.

My issue with Guantanmo Bay isn't that the prison exists or that the detainees haven't been tried and charged; but that the suspected affiliation is enough for a human being to be detained, mistreated and caged up for years.

Side note: before I start on my google frenzy, can anyone give me a quick Siberia rundown and how it relates to Gitmo (if at all)?

Like how Siberia compares to Gitmo? Or the relations Siberia has on Gitmo?

What would you do if YOU were a suspected terrorist simply due to your skin colour, hair colour, ethnicity, religion or whatever, and YOU were taken to guantanamo bay, and YOU were innocent, yet YOU were tortured for a confession about an attempted crime that YOU never commited.

How would YOU feel about guantanamo bay then?


Guantanamo bay is against our human rights. What happened to innocent until proven guilty? The bush government was a racist regime, and thank God GB is going to be shut down.

Unsubstantiated.

Bush had the most racially and ethnically diverse cabinet of any President. Seriously, of the millions of legitimate things you can go after him for, you pick that.