Nicki, I had my doubts about them being the best informed they could find as well but after I thought about it there's really no reason to. Unfortunately, they don't indicate where the questions were asked or any further details. If it were in a place similar to where I used to live, I wouldn't doubt it one bit. I disagree that the video doesn't show how much we are controlled by media. Could you elaborate on your argument a bit? They asked questions related to media. They also used stupid statements that politicians have said and the voters automatically assumed they were made by Sarah Palin or John McCain because certain media has made them out to be stupid. They knew all about Palin reading all the magazines, but none of them knew about the statement Obama made about campaigning in 57 states. The whole Sarah Palin/Tina Fae question also shows the impact media has. I'm sure you see where I'm coming from Nicki because you actually have some sense, but I want to reiterate the fact I'm not arguing who's smarter or who has better supporters for those to stupid to see that. And that brings me to my next response...

I guess my prediction that someone would take this completely out of context and start bashing McCain supporters was correct. I don't believe I or anyone on that site stated that the video is an indicative of all Obama supporters. It was a select few in the area in which the questions were asked. The website clearly states that, although I doubt you took the time to read the entire thing. You should probably stop sucking on Obama for a little while and watch the video with an open mind. It's just showing how uninformed some voters are and they picked Obama because it really wouldn't make sense to do it on McCain voters, seeing as he didn't get elected. It sparks more viewers that way. But, that's how my independent, unbiased mind views it. It could be an attack on Obama supporters. I can see how a closed mind such as yours might think that. Seeing as my only point was how uninformed voters are, I encourage you to find more videos. I'd like to see what you can find.

Maybe you're not, but that site pretty much is. To be fair, I'd only watched half the video when I posted that response; I've since finished it and watched the Fox News clip. It doesn't matter where they were; if those were the best informed people they could find, they didn't try hard enough. It would not have helped their cause to tape people who were actually well-informed. I could answer the vast majority of those questions (admittedly, I knew nothing of that coal industry remark, but I fully intend to research it).

They didn't show that clip about the 57 states in its entirety; it seems fairly obvious that he misspoke and meant 47 states. He'd visited 47 states, had one more to go, and wasn't visiting Alaska or Hawaii. 47 + 3 = 50. I'm not trying to blindly defend here, but good god, you can't have a video on how the media misrepresented things and then do it yourself. Same for the Russia question: he was asking multiple choice questions, with the choices being Biden, McCain, Obama, or Palin. Not Sarah Palin vs Tina Fey. SNL is a comedy show, and has no obligation to present accurate news. But of those four choices, Palin was by far the most correct. If "I can see Russia from my house" were that far a cry from "we're very close to Russia," it would not have made a good joke to begin with. So I absolutely do not think anyone can be faulted for thinking Palin said that; it was a trick question. If this guy has to result to asking trick questions to make people look dumb, he probably does not have a very strong argument to begin with.

But anyway, I don't think it's the media's fault that people don't bother to read comprehensively. All of those things were shown on tv, or printed in the papers. It's not like the headlines consisted of SARAH PALIN SAYS SOMETHING DUMB AGAIN and never mention the fact that Nancy Pelosi is speaker of the hour. For f*ck's sake. Those people were not "informed Obama supporters," they were "informed partisans" at best, as they clearly chose to ignore every piece of information that did not suit their interests. If all you watch is the Daily Show...yeah, you're not going to get a particularly well-rounded view of the political environment. However, the same goes for people who watch Hannity or O'Reilly.

Besides, smoke, you're clearly focusing on one side of the media issue. The media also helped to cement false ideas about Obama, too: how many people, after watching news programs, were convinced that Obama was a Muslim, that he wasn't born in the US, that he was a socialist, etc.? The media is neither liberal nor conservative -- its only loyalty is money.

i dont care about him being anything but president! i love him and i think he is what our country needs. CHANGE!

you're so not helping the argument.

^i dont think the last 5+ posts were helping the topic. i thought the topic was why obama was elected president b/c he (supposedly) wasnt a US born citizen. (which was rong). therefore isnt this resolved because this whole argument on "why is obama president" can go on and on and on and on.

discussions are organic... they grow. a resolution doesn't mean we can't let the conversation evolve.

It is not racist to question Obama's birthplace. Alan Keyes is suing Obama, and he is black.

Obama never showed his birth certificate, only a Certificate of Live Birth. Obama is a usurper, the whore of Babylon and the anti christ.

People should have voted for Kucinich or Gravel, or Nader or Paul not this guy

Believe me. If Ron Paul or Ralph Nader did run, I would have voted for them.

Obama is just...not ready. But I'm willing to give him his chance.

you could have voted nader

If he had voted at all, lol.

i just don't get how anyone can know if obama is ready or not without him actually being in office.

Well, they sure knew it about Palin.


ANYWAYS.
Why on earth was this ancient topic bumped?

this ancient topic isn't even a month old. but besides that, it was bumped because that yak person made a duplicate of it and i linked this one so he brought his opinion over here.

Oh. I just saw that in debate. My bad.

The whole subject is just old. He's going to be president. People just need to move on.

No you wouldn't -- because Nader did run in 2008.