Kanye West is an idiot |
Kanye West is an idiot |
Nov 14 2008, 09:59 PM
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Photoartist Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 12,363 Joined: Apr 2006 Member No: 399,390 |
who's lil weezy f. baby?
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Nov 14 2008, 10:11 PM
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Onyi eff. babii Group: Member Posts: 529 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 204,660 |
QUOTE He says what others want to think but are afraid to say. thank you. |
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Nov 14 2008, 11:07 PM
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Wow it's been a long time!! Group: Member Posts: 1,672 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 8,954 |
im really wondering why this conversation hasnt gotten to Lil Wayne yet.... he's the one who puts himself in the same category along with the best rappers alive (Biggie, Pac, Jay) come on.... if anyone hypes themselves more than they should then it's him.... Maybe it's because I truly believe that Lil Wayne possesses a lot of talent. I actually do think that Lil Wayne has the potential to be legendary. In his case, I think it's okay for him to act like that because I would agree with him. I don't have a problem with people who say what others are afraid to say (trust me on this, most of you probably weren't even here when I was my most active on this site but anyone who remembers me can attest to this)... I think it's an admirable quality. But I think Kanye just does this for attention, and because he's arrogant. Maybe it's all about a difference in opinion. |
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Nov 14 2008, 11:22 PM
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Onyi eff. babii Group: Member Posts: 529 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 204,660 |
QUOTE Maybe it's because I truly believe that Lil Wayne possesses a lot of talent. I actually do think that Lil Wayne has the potential to be legendary. In his case, I think it's okay for him to act like that because I would agree with him. I don't have a problem with people who say what others are afraid to say (trust me on this, most of you probably weren't even here when I was my most active on this site but anyone who remembers me can attest to this)... I think it's an admirable quality. But I think Kanye just does this for attention, and because he's arrogant. Maybe it's all about a difference in opinion. im sure its possble that lil wayne COULD be legindary but i think it's way to early to call...i dont agree Kanye did this for attention. maybe he actually feels this way of himself which is a positive quality that he holds. and im sure if he wanted to do this for attention, he can do better than this because of the past public stunts he pulled (dressing up as Jesus in a crown of thorns in a magazine) |
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Nov 14 2008, 11:36 PM
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I'm Jc Group: Mentor Posts: 13,619 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 437,556 |
wow, kanye won't be a legend but lil wayne will eh. i do not understand how someone can think lil wayne has more talent than kanye.
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Nov 14 2008, 11:42 PM
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Amberific. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 12,913 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 29,772 |
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Nov 14 2008, 11:46 PM
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Photoartist Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 12,363 Joined: Apr 2006 Member No: 399,390 |
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*cakedout* |
Nov 14 2008, 11:47 PM
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ay weezy is hard son, dude made a song on acid
I FEEEEL LIKE DYINNN |
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Nov 14 2008, 11:50 PM
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Photoartist Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 12,363 Joined: Apr 2006 Member No: 399,390 |
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Nov 14 2008, 11:53 PM
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Onyi eff. babii Group: Member Posts: 529 Joined: Aug 2005 Member No: 204,660 |
dont get me wrong. i dont personally think he has more talent than kanye but everyone could always step up their game. always a possibility i guess.
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Nov 15 2008, 12:05 AM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 944 Joined: Jul 2008 Member No: 663,413 |
Ya, he has great music and hes cocky. Annoys me. A lot of entertainers are much cockier than they ought to be... they think their shit dont stink?
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Nov 15 2008, 12:38 AM
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(′ ・ω・`) Group: Official Designer Posts: 6,179 Joined: Dec 2004 Member No: 72,477 |
this is pure opinion.
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Nov 15 2008, 12:50 AM
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Photoartist Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 12,363 Joined: Apr 2006 Member No: 399,390 |
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Nov 15 2008, 01:13 AM
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Alternate Rock beats paper. Group: Member Posts: 71 Joined: Oct 2008 Member No: 693,799 |
So what? At least Stronger's still good.
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Nov 15 2008, 02:03 AM
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^_^ Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 8,141 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 91,466 |
KanYe West is far from an ideal spokesperson for hiphop. He admitted that he's not well informed on politcal matters. However, when you make public statements, you have to be mindful of what the hell you say.
Musically, he is great. Period. He doesn't posess the lyrical prowess of Talib Kweli or Black Thought, but he makes a lot more sense than, say, Lil' Wayne. As a producer, to downplay what he's done for music, as a whole, would be a crime. He's also, beyond a shadow of a doubt, the number one fashion icon in music right now. So let's do a little math, shall we? Average lyrics + interesting content + stellar production + immaculate sense of style - outlandish public statements = greatness for Yeezy. Hate if you want, toys, but Ye's legacy is something that haters will never be able to blemish.
Reason for edit: Fixed your bold tag. - Cristy
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Nov 15 2008, 02:27 AM
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Drank wit your boy Group: Official Member Posts: 1,711 Joined: May 2008 Member No: 649,997 |
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Nov 15 2008, 05:12 AM
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Wow it's been a long time!! Group: Member Posts: 1,672 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 8,954 |
Maybe I can just relate to Lil Wayne more. Maybe because the song you mentioned, I Feel Like Dying, is actually one of the most haunting songs I've ever heard relating to drug abuse. If you've ever suffered from an addiction problem with a certain substance, that song just gets in your bones and is very powerful. The lyrics of the song are just beautiful, in my opinion, and completely express the hopelessness and literal feeling of wanting to just, die.
Swimming laps around a bottle of Louis the Thirteenth Jumpin' off of a mountain into a sea of Codeine I'm at the top of the top, but... still I climb And if I should ever fall, the ground would then turn to wine Pop, pop, I feel like flying, then I feel like frying, then... I feel like dying I can mingle with the stars, and throw a party on Mars I am a prisoner, locked up behind Xanax bars I have just boarded a plane, without a pilot And violets are blue, roses are red Daisies are yellow, the flowers are dead Wish I can give you this feeling... I feel like buying And if my dealer don't have no more, then... I feel like dying As someone who knows exactly what this feels like, I can't think of any other words to use to describe the situation. I can agree that Lil Wayne, like others, can be cocky. But it's hidden little gems like this, that go unplayed on radios and MTV, that really touch my heart. This one specifically. The repetition of the song that might annoy others is another way of mimicking the feeling of repetition and the endless cycle of drug abuse that such an addiction can inspire. In addition to that, watching Lil Wayne freestyle is one of the most impressive things I have seen/heard thus far. I just get the impression that music literally flows out of his veins and into his songs. I never said I don't respect Kanye as an artist, because I do. Several of his songs over the past couple of years are among my favorites. But I don't think that he deserves the credit he gives himself (comparing himself to Michael Jordan, and JESUS??). I actually lose respect for him as an artist after hearing his claims. And I also agree with you that this was not the most outlandish thing he has done for attention, but I feel like every couple of months some other little quote or something he has said has to make headlines. It seems like he always has to talk about himself to the media, and that annoys me. Outstanding lyrics + fascinating & meaningful content + stellar production + immaculate style (and he has some nasty ink) + no outlandish public statements = greatness for Weezy. You don't have to agree with me people, I'm not asking you to. I'm just stating my opinion, which I'm entitled to have. |
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Nov 15 2008, 06:31 AM
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^_^ Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 8,141 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 91,466 |
Touching response. Whatever floats your boat. Everyone will have their personal preferences, and no one is disputing which artist is better because of who they can relate to; we're discussing who truly is more talented.
QUOTE Outstanding lyrics + fascinating & meaningful content + stellar production + immaculate style (and he has some nasty ink) + no outlandish public statements = greatness for Weezy. Weezy isn't a producer, for starters. So he can't get credit for production. All three Carter's had top notch production; production so thorough that most hiphop heavyweights could easily make it a platinum album *cough,Jay-Z,cough* Check the credits for Tha Carter's I & II and he's not the sole writer of his songs. As an artist who is solely an emcee, and wants to be taken seriously, this is no-no. As a fashion icon, Weezy ain't it. There's nothing special about his style, minus the name brands. Roll through any hood south of the Mason-Dixon line, and you can find a grip of niggas that look just like him. Lyrical content; he's inconsistent. Do a quick search of Weezy's public statements via Google. He makes KanYe look like a college professor. |
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Nov 15 2008, 11:36 AM
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Hello, I'm Heli Group: Member Posts: 198 Joined: Aug 2007 Member No: 568,604 |
a lot of artist say they're great. but i do agree that sometimes he should keep his mouth shut, "George Bush doesnt like black people..." thats true .. AND: Kanye West Pees On The Carpet |
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Nov 15 2008, 12:11 PM
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Drank wit your boy Group: Official Member Posts: 1,711 Joined: May 2008 Member No: 649,997 |
KanYe West is far from an ideal spokesperson for hiphop. He admitted that he's not well informed on politcal matters. However, when you make public statements, you have to be mindful of what the hell you say. Musically, he [b[is[/b] great. Period. He doesn't posess the lyrical prowess of Talib Kweli or Black Thought, but he makes a lot more sense than, say, Lil' Wayne. As a producer, to downplay what he's done for music, as a whole, would be a crime. He's also, beyond a shadow of a doubt, the number one fashion icon in music right now. So let's do a little math, shall we? Average lyrics + interesting content + stellar production + immaculate sense of style - outlandish public statements = greatness for Yeezy. Hate if you want, toys, but Ye's legacy is something that haters will never be able to blemish. Thats really on point. I always thought Kanye was an average lyricist, but his production game is at least half the reason behind his success. No one can deny his ear for music. I'm pretty sure any emcee would love to have the ability to take beats and add your own creativity to it. I also think a big misconception is that Kanye can't make a beat without a sample. False...... I.E. Get Em High ft. Talib and Common. Also Ye does drop nice lines from time to time. But sometimes they have Lupe written all over them, but I can't confirm that: QUOTE "I'm just saying, Hey Mona Lisa,
come home you know you can't Rome without Caesar" |
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Nov 15 2008, 12:21 PM
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Amberific. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 12,913 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 29,772 |
My favorite 'Ye line:
QUOTE Every time I breathe on a track I asthma attack it. When I heard that for the first time I was like, |
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Nov 15 2008, 03:37 PM
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Wow it's been a long time!! Group: Member Posts: 1,672 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 8,954 |
Oh yeah and I forgot to add that Weezy's voice is extremely unique and that's another factor that makes him stand out. Oh and I also appreciate the humor he inserts into several of his lyrics... And Kanye West peed on the carpet, wtf?? He's like a little kid.
And I like Weezy's style, he's hot. And I "roll through any hood south of the Mason-Dixon line" on a daily basis being that I live in ATL, and I can't say that I've ever seen "a grip of niggas that look just like him." I see more poserish type guys trying to dress like Kanye than Weezy. He just wears whatever, maybe his style and him as a person is just someone I can respect more. I can respect Lil Wayne's arrogance because he doesn't go out of his way to say it, and because I could agree with him. So I guess I can see where you guys are coming from as far as Kanye's arrogance not bothering you... it's just a different taste in artists. |
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Nov 15 2008, 04:54 PM
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tell me more. Group: Official Member Posts: 2,798 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 35,640 |
weezy's lyrics are pretty tight, but the stuff he talks about is what turns me off to him. sure, people share some of his feelings, but im not a fan of his subject matter.
but kayne is definately not the voice of our generation. |
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*cakedout* |
Nov 15 2008, 05:48 PM
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who the f*ck just said stronger is good? ROFL
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Nov 15 2008, 06:03 PM
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^_^ Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 8,141 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 91,466 |
Oh yeah and I forgot to add that Weezy's voice is extremely unique and that's another factor that makes him stand out. Oh and I also appreciate the humor he inserts into several of his lyrics... And Kanye West peed on the carpet, wtf?? He's like a little kid. And I like Weezy's style, he's hot. And I "roll through any hood south of the Mason-Dixon line" on a daily basis being that I live in ATL, and I can't say that I've ever seen "a grip of niggas that look just like him." I see more poserish type guys trying to dress like Kanye than Weezy. He just wears whatever, maybe his style and him as a person is just someone I can respect more. I can respect Lil Wayne's arrogance because he doesn't go out of his way to say it, and because I could agree with him. So I guess I can see where you guys are coming from as far as Kanye's arrogance not bothering you... it's just a different taste in artists. Last time I was in North Carolina, all I saw were dreads and wife-beaters. BUt I'll just agree to disagree. No matter how much I enjoy listening to 'Shooter,' or 'Let the Beat Build,' Lil' Wayne is just a modern day minstrel show to me. |
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