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post Nov 4 2008, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(paperplane @ Nov 4 2008, 05:03 PM) *
How could that possibly make sense?

cause voluntary response attracts people with strong opinions. it's like the radio asking people to phone in on a poll. if you have a strong support for a particular candidate, you're more likely to call the station in show of your support for that candidate. if you're undecided or apathetic, you're less likely to call the station. if you've ever listened to those call-ins, you pretty much always know if the caller's pro-obama or pro-mccain based on what the callers says (even if he/she claims to be neutral). there are hardly any true, neutral callers. same thing with internet polls.

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well we know obama's support isn't just the younger generation because it would be impossible to get to this point with just young votes, obviously. so that made no sense.

yes, i do realize that obama's supporters aren't all the young people cause i do know a handful of mccain supporters, but i'm saying that typically the obama support you see are from the younger generation. seriously, which do you see more: 60 y/o obama supporter or a 20 y/o obama supporter? typically, the latter half. and i'm saying the latter half is causing all the frenzy that undermines the amount of mccain supporters. so i'm just looking at two sides is all. do i honestly think that mccain is gonna win? no, i'm actually betting on obama, but i just personally don't think he's gonna win by the landslide these polls indicate.
 
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QUOTE(espressive @ Nov 5 2008, 07:01 AM) *
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pretty much, considering republicans are typically rich old white guys. canvassing and such aren't really up their alley i guess :-p haha jk but not really, cause it's true. we see so much obama support cause they're typically the younger generation (like ecstatic 18 year olds who need to proclaim to the world that they're allowed to vote)

edit: hasty generalizations, i know. but just my two cents

That is so not true. My college is can be considered as one of the most liberal colleges in the nation, and yet I am surprised to see the number of students here who are voting for McCain.
 
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post Nov 4 2008, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(espressive @ Nov 4 2008, 07:30 PM) *
yes, i do realize that obama's supporters aren't all the young people cause i do know a handful of mccain supporters, but i'm saying that typically the obama support you see are from the younger generation. seriously, which do you see more: 60 y/o obama supporter or a 20 y/o obama supporter? typically, the latter half. and i'm saying the latter half is causing all the frenzy that undermines the amount of mccain supporters. so i'm just looking at two sides is all. do i honestly think that mccain is gonna win? no, i'm actually betting on obama, but i just personally don't think he's gonna win by the landslide these polls indicate.


i think there's plenty of older people for obama, you just hear about younger ones more becuase younger people are more active...for obvious reasons laugh.gif


*confused*

these polls indicate world opinion, so obviously it's not gonna be that big of a landslide as the polls we're talking about indicate becuase the world can't vote _unsure.gif
 
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post Nov 4 2008, 06:43 PM
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Didn't go to my last class to go vote.
Also.. The city is going to be packed tonight for the rally in chicago!!!!!!!!!!
 
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post Nov 4 2008, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE(misoshiru @ Nov 4 2008, 05:30 PM) *
That is so not true. My college is can be considered as one of the most liberal colleges in the nation, and yet I am surprised to see the number of students here who are voting for McCain.

typically speaking, people lol. of course there's gonna be older Obama supporters and younger McCain supporters. i know they exist (heck i can even name some people for you); i am very aware of that. but you said that you are suprised to see a number of students voting for McCain, you didn't say that the majority of students are voting for McCain. so i'm led to think that although there are McCain supporters at your college, there are more Obama supporters?
QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 4 2008, 05:34 PM) *
i think there's plenty of older people for obama, you just hear about younger ones more becuase younger people are more active...for obvious reasons laugh.gif

these polls indicate world opinion, so obviously it's not gonna be that big of a landslide as the polls we're talking about indicate becuase the world can't vote _unsure.gif

i agree there are older supporters of obama, but i'm just saying the younger obama supporters are causing all the craze and that it causes some people to underestimate the amount of mccain supporters - that is all.

ohhh right!... but why is it not such a landslide worldwide than it is nationally? legitimate question, not trying to prove a point or anything.
 
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post Nov 4 2008, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE(espressive @ Nov 4 2008, 08:09 PM) *


ohhh right!... but why is it not such a landslide worldwide than it is nationally? legitimate question, not trying to prove a point or anything.


the wording is confusing in this, i think you mean why is not as much of a landslide nationally than it is worldwide?

probably becuase a lot of the world is more liberal than the u.s. to begin with. i think the world associates mccain with george bush even more than americans do...and they hate him. i duno, obama seems easier to work with and more likely to sit down with other leaders and talk logically?

someone not from the U.S. come tell us why you prefer obama.
 
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post Nov 4 2008, 07:22 PM
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yeah sorry, that's what i meant to say.

lol you're saying obama seems more jolly/approachable than mccain? ehh i guess that could be a reason, but there's more to it than that.

yes, please enlighten us non-Americans! =]
 
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post Nov 4 2008, 07:24 PM
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no not more jolly and approachable...more likely to sit down and have a discussion, more diplomatic.
 
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post Nov 4 2008, 07:36 PM
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wait...wouldnt this be Todays the big day since today is the election?
 
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post Nov 4 2008, 07:37 PM
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^yeah, if i had made this topic today instead of yesterday
 
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post Nov 4 2008, 07:37 PM
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well the topic was made yesterday

what JC said
 
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post Nov 4 2008, 07:37 PM
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i thought it would have more to do with each candidate's stance on foreign policy & international trade? just makes more sense since the world can benefit from international business. i'm not too familiar with that so i'm not actually sure of each candidate's positions...
 
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post Nov 4 2008, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE(espressive @ Nov 4 2008, 08:37 PM) *
i thought it would have more to do with each candidate's stance on foreign policy & international trade? just makes more sense since the world can benefit from international business. i'm not too familiar with that so i'm not actually sure of each candidate's positions...

yeah, i'm not saying that's not a reason. i just listed stuff off the top of my head. i don't mean to imply i think the world only cares about who comes off more diplomatic.
 
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post Nov 4 2008, 07:47 PM
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I'M SO NERVOUS ABOUT THE OUTCOME ON THE ELECTIONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN eek.gif eek.gif eek.gif eek.gif
 
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post Nov 4 2008, 07:59 PM
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^ me too
 
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post Nov 4 2008, 08:01 PM
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QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 4 2008, 06:38 PM) *
yeah, i'm not saying that's not a reason. i just listed stuff off the top of my head. i don't mean to imply i think the world only cares about who comes off more diplomatic.

well i'm sure that it's a factor too :-p but now i'm really curious about each candidate's stance on foreign policy/international trade. anybody know?
 
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post Nov 4 2008, 08:02 PM
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from a friend so far
77 Obama 34 McCain

I still want McCain to win : \ sorry
 
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post Nov 4 2008, 08:04 PM
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102 (projected) for Obama! 34 for McCain.
GOBAMA! dance.gif
 
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post Nov 4 2008, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE(Tomates @ Nov 4 2008, 09:02 PM) *
from a friend so far
77 Obama 34 McCain

I still want McCain to win : \ sorry


smh, let your inner out
 
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post Nov 4 2008, 08:06 PM
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go obamaaaa

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post Nov 4 2008, 08:06 PM
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270 to win. still a long way to go!
 
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post Nov 4 2008, 08:08 PM
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i dont really mind Obama, i just dont like the fact that my family is probably going to higher taxes because of the whole tax proposal stuff.
 
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post Nov 4 2008, 08:09 PM
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QUOTE(Tomates @ Nov 4 2008, 09:08 PM) *
i dont really mind Obama, i just dont like the fact that my family is probably going to higher taxes because of the whole tax proposal stuff.


if it's gonna affect you then you can afford it whistling.gif
 
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post Nov 4 2008, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 4 2008, 08:09 PM) *
if it's gonna affect you then you can afford it whistling.gif

probably but its still frusterating.
Though its not for sure yet. All i know is that we dont get the tax break from what ive heard from my mom.
 
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post Nov 4 2008, 08:12 PM
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eh, i guess. i really don't have that much sympathy for people who are well off and don't want to pay more when in the end they are still gonna have more than most people shrug.gif


when i'm rich i don't think i'll mind paying more taxes than poorer people.
 

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