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post Oct 16 2008, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE(NoSex @ Oct 15 2008, 12:31 AM) *
what the hell are you talking about? what is "immoral" about the naked human form? are you a prude and a moron or are you just a prude?

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post Oct 26 2008, 12:45 AM
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QUOTE(coconutter @ Oct 7 2008, 06:56 PM) *
so does that mean bottles can't be exposed because a babies mouth will be on the nipple?

or are you trying to say boobs will have germs, because that's ludicrous, everything has germs!

nah im saying boobs are used for an "intimate" thing & they are also a body part connected to sexual arousal. they shouldn't be out there for eveyone to look at.
 
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post Oct 26 2008, 01:15 AM
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Neither actually, Im just saying as time goes by, were seeing more sex, drugs, alcohol, foul language and nudity on the television and in movies and were not monitering what our kids see.

The human body is beautiful, nothing immoral about it, but it is sacred, not something that should be shown to everyone, especially not the whole world on the TV. Its intended to be seen by your spouse, when your married. Not passed around.
 
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post Oct 26 2008, 06:04 PM
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QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Oct 26 2008, 02:15 AM) *
Neither actually, Im just saying as time goes by, were seeing more sex, drugs, alcohol, foul language and nudity on the television and in movies and were not monitering what our kids see.

The human body is beautiful, nothing immoral about it, but it is sacred, not something that should be shown to everyone, especially not the whole world on the TV. Its intended to be seen by your spouse, when your married. Not passed around.


Biased opinion much?

I loved how you added in "when you're married". Why do people think marriage somehow makes things better. It doesn't. Marriage is NOTHING, nothing at all. Just some legal crap, and it should be treated as so. Idiots.

and by the way, morals should apply to every gender.

The point is, the male body isn't sacred, it is being passed around. Why can't female bodies be passed around like they're unsacred? We're all human beings, and our bodies are just as sacred as that of a cat. Why can't we all just accept each other as equal?
 
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post Oct 26 2008, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE(Joss-eh-lime @ Oct 26 2008, 01:45 AM) *
nah im saying boobs are used for an "intimate" thing & they are also a body part connected to sexual arousal. they shouldn't be out there for eveyone to look at.



What about breast feeding is intimate? Drinking coffee isn't intimate. The male chest could be a body part used for sexual arousal.

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post Oct 27 2008, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE(coconutter @ Oct 26 2008, 05:04 PM) *
Biased opinion much?

I loved how you added in "when you're married". Why do people think marriage somehow makes things better. It doesn't. Marriage is NOTHING, nothing at all. Just some legal crap, and it should be treated as so. Idiots.

and by the way, morals should apply to every gender.

The point is, the male body isn't sacred, it is being passed around. Why can't female bodies be passed around like they're unsacred? We're all human beings, and our bodies are just as sacred as that of a cat. Why can't we all just accept each other as equal?


Thats my opinion. Dont call me a prude. Dont call me a moron. Dont call me an idiot. Name calling is immature. How about you respect my opinion and I'll respect yours, ya?
 
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post Oct 27 2008, 04:13 PM
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Eh, women are more exploitable I guess? I don't know. It's bizarre. There's really no rational explanation for it. I get that people have opinions on the matter but breasts are breasts for goodness sake. I swing the way of the penis but I'd prefer seeing female boobage over some old fart's man boobs any day.
 
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I've seen a show where they said like in Russia or something, when the news is on, they make the reporter (usually a woman) strip naked while giving the news.

It's like saying, I have no self-respect for myself so I'll just show my naked body to almost everyone in Russia(I think). Think about that.
And hey, you don't see men just whipping out the "donkers" everywhere they go. They take off thier shirts just to get some attention. At least that's what I think.
 
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post Oct 27 2008, 04:20 PM
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You don't see women whipping out the vajayjays either. I'm talking breasts to breasts. Why is it that a man boob can be televised and a woman boob cannot be televised?
 
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post Oct 27 2008, 04:43 PM
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^^ It's like I said. It just make you think that the woman has no slef respect but if a guy does it, it's like he's just tring to get attention or just "joking" that he has no self respect.
 
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Ok, let me present this differently:

1) Bare chested male on TV: shameful?
2) Bare chested female on TV: shameful?

The answers should be the same. I'm not saying that people are wrong for thinking the way they do. I'm saying that if the answer to #1 is no and the answer to #2 is yes, that's far from congruent thinking.
 
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post Oct 29 2008, 12:46 AM
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QUOTE(coconutter @ Oct 26 2008, 04:13 PM) *
What about breast feeding is intimate? Drinking coffee isn't intimate. The male chest could be a body part used for sexual arousal.

sorry for double posting >:(


my mom actually said that in this country we hide breastfeeding, but other countries its out in the open.
so i guess thats just how our culture is, and therefore breastfeeding is an intimate thing. women usually cover themselves with a blanket.
 
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post Oct 29 2008, 06:28 PM
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i think girls who don't have very big boobies (if you do; don't take it offensively, just pointing out something) can walk out freely topless, that's like men.. but did you know that some men do have some man-titties.. but they walk out toppless anyways? we should do something about that!
 
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post Oct 29 2008, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Oct 27 2008, 01:35 AM) *
Thats my opinion. Dont call me a prude. Dont call me a moron. Dont call me an idiot. Name calling is immature. How about you respect my opinion and I'll respect yours, ya?

I didn't call you an idiot, nor did I call you a moron, I was speaking about the general population and their misconceptions of marriage (and general idiocy of the government), hence IDIOTS, not idiot.

I just thought your opinion was biased by some modern conservatism and the corruption of some churches. Seeing a body until marriage really shouldn't have anything to do with what they show on TV, that was just an opinionated thing you added in there which I considered bias, and well, on my terms it was.

Also, about the other countries. Our country is considered to be the more liberal when it comes to freedom of citizens, yet females aren't allowed to freely walked around topless, while men are? It doesn't make sense, it really doesn't. That's not equality, it's only a majority of the people's morals (mostly based on religion) deciding how women could live. Isn't that similar to women in other countries who can't leave the house, or have property, and divorce women where as men can? It's totally unfair, the laws should have nothing to do with the sometimes sexist views of churches.
 
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post Oct 29 2008, 08:36 PM
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A man might walk into a restaurant with no shirt on and he'd probably get kicked out. A woman could walk into a restaurant topless and she'd probably get free food.



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post Oct 29 2008, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE(ArjunaCapulong @ Oct 29 2008, 09:36 PM) *
A man might walk into a restaurant with no shirt on and he'd probably get kicked out. A woman could walk into a restaurant topless and she'd probably get free food.
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I hate sexism >:(
 
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QUOTE(coconutter @ Oct 29 2008, 07:29 PM) *
I didn't call you an idiot, nor did I call you a moron, I was speaking about the general population and their misconceptions of marriage (and general idiocy of the government), hence IDIOTS, not idiot.

I just thought your opinion was biased by some modern conservatism and the corruption of some churches. Seeing a body until marriage really shouldn't have anything to do with what they show on TV, that was just an opinionated thing you added in there which I considered bias, and well, on my terms it was.

Also, about the other countries. Our country is considered to be the more liberal when it comes to freedom of citizens, yet females aren't allowed to freely walked around topless, while men are? It doesn't make sense, it really doesn't. That's not equality, it's only a majority of the people's morals (mostly based on religion) deciding how women could live. Isn't that similar to women in other countries who can't leave the house, or have property, and divorce women where as men can? It's totally unfair, the laws should have nothing to do with the sometimes sexist views of churches.

Oh, sorry I was actually talking to NoSex.
 
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post Oct 30 2008, 05:32 AM
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QUOTE(coconutter @ Oct 29 2008, 08:29 PM) *
Isn't that similar to women in other countries who can't leave the house, or have property, and divorce women where as men can?


Not even close. Under the backwater regime where I'm from, women are not permitted to be in the company of a man who is not her husband or a male relative, or allowed to engage in sports in which they may be seen by men, nevermind being banned from pursuing higher education in 91 of 169 fields of study. Somehow, I think that's on a different level than having to wear a flimsy top.

This kind of reminds me of my Russian friend who visited Moscow a few weeks ago. "The entire country is ****ed up," he'd say in relaying the experience to others. According to him, people would often reply, "Oh, like here," and he would just shake his head in disbelief and say, "Uh, no. Not like here, at all. Have you ever even lived outside the U.S.?"
 
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QUOTE(Reidar @ Oct 30 2008, 06:32 AM) *
Not even close. Under the backwater regime where I'm from, women are not permitted to be in the company of a man who is not her husband or a male relative, or allowed to engage in sports in which they may be seen by men, nevermind being banned from pursuing higher education in 91 of 169 fields of study. Somehow, I think that's on a different level than having to wear a flimsy top.

This kind of reminds me of my Russian friend who visited Moscow a few weeks ago. "The entire country is ****ed up," he'd say in relaying the experience to others. According to him, people would often reply, "Oh, like here," and he would just shake his head in disbelief and say, "Uh, no. Not like here, at all. Have you ever even lived outside the U.S.?"


No doubt women in other countries don't have near as many rights as we do, that's evident. I was just comparing the rights us women don't have, to the rights that other women do not have in other countries, even if we do have the rights they don't have, it's still a fair comparison. Not on the level of harshness, but the similarity is there.
 
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we should just change it.. lol i mean, they are just breasts.. not such a big deal! i mean it's not like you can do anything with it besides feed your children with it. private parts are too be hidden, thats why they are called private. and breasts are not considered under that topic heh.
 
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QUOTE(coconutter @ Oct 30 2008, 04:47 PM) *
I was just comparing the rights us women don't have, to the rights that other women do not have in other countries, even if we do have the rights they don't have, it's still a fair comparison.


It's not analogous. A woman's quality of living and her lifelong opportunities aren't impugned by such minor censorship, as inconsistent as the logic behind it may be. In the Middle East, female-specific statutes explicitly characterize men as the dominant gender by limiting societal opportunities. The fact that there even exist nudist camps in America offers relief for more secular-minded people; there is no parallel under the alternative, for women citizens of Iran can't even leave the country without a male supervisor.
 

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