ARE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN?

THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT YOU SHOULD KNOW:

1. REALIZE THAT YOU ARE A SINNER AND IN NEED OF A SAVIOR:

Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"

Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"

This all began with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect, there was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain which this world sees is the result of sin.

2. BECAUSE OF OUR SINS, WE DIE BOTH SPIRITUALLY AND PHYSICALLY, BUT GOD SENT HIS SON TO TAKE OUR PUNISHMENT AND GIVE US A CHANCE NOT TO HAVE TO GO TO HELL.

Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Ro 5:8 "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."

Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail. It's the same thing with sin. Even if we lie one time, the punishment is hell, which is a prison for those who commit crimes against God. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already committed a sin which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the president can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die.

3. IF WE WILL ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS OUR LORD WITH OUR MOUTHS AND BELIEVE IN OUR HEARTS THAT HE ROSE FROM THE DEAD, BY DOING THIS WE ARE RECEIVING HIM:

Ro 10:9,10 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."

Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: {power: or, the right, or, privilege}
(KJV)

You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus and asking Him to forgive you for your sins and save you. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven if they do these things, but the bible says that there is only one way to heaven and that is through receiving what Jesus Christ did on the cross for you.

Will you do that today? If you will, you can be 100% sure that you will go to heaven when you die.

DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS AND ROSE FROM THE DEAD FOR YOUR SINS? DO YOU ACCEPT WHAT HE DID FOR YOU TO PAY FOR YOUR SINS?

4. If you are willing to receive Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior please pray this right now, from your heart to God,

"Dear LORD JESUS, I believe that YOU died on the Cross and Rose from the dead for my sins. I ask you to come into my heart and forgive me for my sins, take me to heaven when I die. I now receive You as my Lord and Savior. Thank You for saving me. In Jesus holy name, Amen."

If you prayed that prayer from your heart to God, and meant it with all of your heart, you are now a child of God and will go to heaven when you die.

Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism.

There's no proof of heaven's existence, but you believe it exists. And even though there's no proof of it's existence and the guidelines for entry vary from cult to cult, you believe that, by your standards, that you'll go to heaven? Aren't we just a Saint?!

Please take the time to read this first post and pray that prayer to God at the bottom of it if you haven't yet.

I haven't... and I really don't want to.

I have found an excuse to almost everything they have told me in church. And they all make more since.
I still want to believe in god, but i'm sure there isn't one.
And just to be random, i hate when people say "if theres no god, how did we get here?" because then i would say "How did god get there?" and then he'd ask "how did we get here?" and so on, if god can just poof out of now where, why can't we?

Your right.. there is no proof that heaven exists.. cause you cant see it. You have to have faith to believe in Heaven. And your saying thats stupid, right? Correct me if Im wrong. But, dont you practice faith every day of your life? You go to sleep and have faith that you will wake up the next morning, you drive to work and have faith that someone isnt going to cut you off and your going to smash into another car and go to the hospital. You drop your kid off at school and have faith that nothing bad will happen to him in those eight hours.

Life takes faith every day, going from task to task. It just depends on what you put your faith in. So, for some people they do have faith in a heaven and in a God. Others dont.

But Im not looking to debate or argue, I was just tryin to make a point.

Is that little laughter outburst directed towards my response?

how does it make sense to say faith in waking up everyday is the same as faith in going to heaven?

you know why people think they are going to wake up everyday??? becuase they do wake up everyday. it's further proven every single time they wake up. that is completely irrelevant to having faith you are going to go heaven which you have ZERO experience with.


if something has reasonable logic, proof, and prior experience why the hell would you classify that as faith? that's like the polar opposite of "faith".


it doesn't take "faith" for me to know these things. i know them becuase i've experienced them everyday that i've been alive so far. there's no reason to think such basic facts of life would randomly switch up. even if i did want to sit here and worry about not waking up it would be pointless becuase i can't choose any alternative. i have to sleep regardless.

Then get the f**k out of debate.

Oh, I forgot I was in the debate forum. HAHAHA. I crack myself up sometimes. But, seriously calm the hell down.



Faith is faith. There arent diff. kinds. Its all the same.

omg she's not calm! it must be the sign of the devil.

Its funny when people are a bitch to people online for no reason.. its shows how immature they are.

you know what else shows how immature people are? when they believe stupid shit like we'll all go to happy smile place in the sky if we all treat each other right by not having sex with one another outside of wedlock.

Actually, immaturity is when your too intolerant of other's beliefs that you cant be civilized in your responses. Talking about maturity, when is it mature to call someone a "moron" and a "prude" when they express their opinion?

Im not shoving what I believe in down your throat and Im def. not immature for having an opinion.

You're not trying to shove what you believe down my throat? You're shoving faith down my throat.

What are you talking about? I was talking about faith, not trying to shove it down anyone's throats.

I am stating my opinion, not telling you to believe it. This is the debate forum, isnt it? If you are too sensitive, get the f**k out.

The fact that you're talking about "practicing faith every day of your life" does not apply to everyone. And that you're basically saying that everyone applies faith every day of their life to me, is in a way of pushing faith into my faith. Maybe you don't get that since obviously you practice faith in every bit of your life. But I certainly don't. I also assume that you're Christian. Are you going to have to pray to god now that you've been swearing and ask him for forgiveness and have faith that he's going to forgive you?

Pushing faith into your faith?
I thought you didnt have any faith?

1 a: allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty b (1): fidelity to one's promises (2): sincerity of intentions
2 a (1): belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2): belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion b (1): firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2): complete trust
3: something that is believed especially with strong conviction ; especially : a system of religious beliefs <the Protestant faith>

Faith isnt all about religion. Someone can have faith in their brother that he is going to stop drinking. Or they can have faith in their child that they will do good in school. "I have faith in you." People do have faith in what they do and in what others do.

But, faith can also apply to religion. But dont freak out now.. Im not telling you to join my religion or anything. Its ok, calm down.

Oh and....

f**k.

EDIT: But, if you dont think thats true, thats fine. I do. Im not imposing it on you, Im just saying what I believe. Im not shoving anything down anyone's throats...

i bet you suck.

This post has been edited by NoSex: Oct 28 2008, 02:02 PM

Oh, thanks.
mature, very mature.

Melanie I bet you're ugly.

do any mods even mod this forum?


i duno. steven and nate, you guys could do a lot better.

I just said I bet, not for sure. Besides, JC, you know how I am. Mods can't change this shit right hurr.

i know, it's just that you two are some of the only people here who actually have enough brain power to grasp debate concepts. lately it seems like you guys usually opt to bash someone instead of debate anymore. i guess because the debate forum is getting too boring to care anymore, but still.


I MISS THE OLD DAYS!