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![]() Vae Victis ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 1,416 Joined: Sep 2006 Member No: 460,227 ![]() |
Muscle Milk contains casein protein, which coagulates in the stomach and impedes absorption, so it should not be taken after a workout. This is a very time-sensitive period, which is where whey comes in.
Also, tone doesn't mean definition. More muscle = more tonus, which is an ionic measure across the muscle cell membranes. |
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Muscle Milk contains casein protein, which coagulates in the stomach and impedes absorption, so it should not be taken after a workout. This is a very time-sensitive period, which is where whey comes in. Also, tone doesn't mean definition. More muscle = more tonus, which is an ionic measure across the muscle cell membranes. Muscle milk has two proteins: Whey and casein. Whey is said to be the fastest digesting(digests in 2 hours or so) protein and casein is said to be the slowest(i heard it takes 6 hours to digest. I heard that the this protein combo is good because you get a good amount of protein throughout 6 hours or so, although most recommend 100% whey after workouts. |
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![]() Vae Victis ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 1,416 Joined: Sep 2006 Member No: 460,227 ![]() |
You don't, because caseinate denatures and coagulates when broken down, which interrupts the synthesis of all protein peptides and amino acids, causing them to pass more slowly through the gut. This delays the supply of nitrogen to the muscle tissues and defeats the effects of the whey.
Casein should be taken before bed for that reason, in order to counter the effects of nighttime muscle breakdown, or, more formally, nocturnal post-absorptive catabolism. |
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You don't, because caseinate denatures and coagulates when broken down, which interrupts the synthesis of all protein peptides and amino acids, causing them to pass more slowly through the gut. This delays the supply of nitrogen to the muscle tissues and defeats the effects of the whey. Casein should be taken before bed for that reason, in order to counter the effects of nighttime muscle breakdown, or, more formally, nocturnal post-absorptive catabolism. ahhh i see. I also read this article after i read your post: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/satternorton.htm your reason is also listed near the middle of the page. Why the hell would cytosport combine casein and whey.. haha. Guess ill have to buy some 100% whey protein. What do you think about taking muscle milk pre-work out? |
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So you guys are saying it would be better to do let's say
50 reps of 100lbs than 100 reps of 75lbs? |
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So you guys are saying it would be better to do let's say 50 reps of 100lbs than 100 reps of 75lbs? I guess it depends on what type of exercise. For example.. lets say your max on a flat bench is 155lbs. Instead of doing 10 sets of 115lbs. It is best to do 4 sets starting with 140lbs with +5lbs after each set. So it would end up like.. 1st set 140lbs 8 reps 2nd set 145 6 reps 3rd set 150 4 reps 4th set 155 1-2 reps (that's just an example of what i do. I'm not sure if it's the best for me but you get the idea) as ur sets go down, your weights should go up. As your weight goes up your reps should go down. |
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![]() Vae Victis ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 1,416 Joined: Sep 2006 Member No: 460,227 ![]() |
Why the hell would cytosport combine casein and whey.. haha. Guess ill have to buy some 100% whey protein. What do you think about taking muscle milk pre-work out? As something you take with a regular meal, it's a good source of protein. I buy Muscle Milk cartons to drink with my lunch at school. So you guys are saying it would be better to do let's say 50 reps of 100lbs than 100 reps of 75lbs? Neither. Both are an asinine number for functional strength. |
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^ Then give me your suggestion then great Reidar.
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it's going to depend on what type of exercise you're doing.
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![]() Vae Victis ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 1,416 Joined: Sep 2006 Member No: 460,227 ![]() |
^ Then give me your suggestion then great Reidar. http://defrancotraining.com/articles/archi...es_westside.htm Do that, or this: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=998224 By the way, more about this pyramiding scheme: as ur sets go down, your weights should go up. As your weight goes up your reps should go down. Russian Olympic lifters said good-bye to doing this as a staple back in 1964. Pyramids fatigue the muscles and nervous system before getting to the money sets. The Russian National Powerlifting Team still employs very limited use of this build-up in the preparatory period when they're concentrating on building up volume, usually only once a week, but beginner trainees really shouldn't concern themselves with it yet. |
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Thanks. I'm gonna read this when I'm not being lazy. Which is really rare.
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![]() Vae Victis ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 1,416 Joined: Sep 2006 Member No: 460,227 ![]() |
I can email you a copy of Beyond Bodybuilding, which not only does a great job of breaking this all down, but is pretty funny to read and isn't a chore to go through at all.
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Sent.
With such Soviet methods, you will grow like mutant and crush your enemies like Russian bear. |
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tuvo@ucdavis.edu
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Two eggs a day?
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As many as you want.
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*KINGdinguhling* |
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LOL
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are you still fat?
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rawr? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 2,705 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 285,858 ![]() |
^ lollllll (x> i don't think he was fat from the beginning gorjira.
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![]() DDR \\ I'm Dee :) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Mentor Posts: 8,662 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 384,020 ![]() |
Hey, Tung, how's the plan goin?
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![]() Vae Victis ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 1,416 Joined: Sep 2006 Member No: 460,227 ![]() |
You should do crazy plates, Tung, since you trained with machines and are therefore in critical need of muscle stabilization.
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![]() durian ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 13,124 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 3,860 ![]() |
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