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Birth Control, Who has say in whether or not todays youth gets it?
MissFits
post Oct 18 2007, 08:12 AM
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A Jr. High School is making headlines about giving birth control to it's students (article is here)What is your stance on providing Jr. High students with condoms and birth control? Should it only be the parents responsibility?
 
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post Dec 17 2007, 03:01 PM
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^Exactly.
Letting children pop out babies is what is leading to the downfall of our society.
If your 15, I don't give a shit what anyone says, you are not mentally ready to raise a child. Raising a child is hard for a 30 year old.

I have nothing against teenage mothers, I think it's about damn time someone took a step forward in preventing it, though.
 
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post Aug 19 2008, 06:59 PM
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this isn't just about giving BC out in schools; it's about our overall attitude towards reproductive health & women's bodies. personally, i don't think that there should be any age restrictions/mandatory parental consent laws with regards abortion, birth control, or anything else relating to reproductive rights. i am fully pro-choice and believe that a woman has the right to decide what to do with her own body.

i also believe that abstinence-only sex ed is terribly misleading and has absolutely no place in our schools. comprehensive sex ed is the way to go. and contraceptives are not the only thing we need to talk about; we need to talk about what exactly sex IS to how teenage pregnancies more often than not occur in relationships where the girl is being abused or in a situation where she has been raped.

i believe that we should absolutely hand out condoms in schools; birth control is for the OB/GYN to figure out.
 
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post Aug 19 2008, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(Call911Quick @ Dec 9 2007, 04:50 AM) *
Well, if teen girls get pregnent and have kids, it's their responsibility. They should suffer for:

a.) Being stupid (aka not having protection).
b.) Being a whore (having so much sex that a condom broke/etc.)

It's just a pity that the child will have to suffer too.



WHAT? Being a WHORE? You do realize that someone in a committed relationship using condoms could have one broken, and having repeated sex in a relationship is by no means "whorish". The reason most teens suffer is because they weren't taught the things young adults need to be taught about. They need to be told the statistics: such as "less than one out of a hundred women will become pregnant when using birth control perfectly", so then they can decide the proper contraception for them and find a way to get it. Though, birth control should be able to be accessed without parental permission, and it should be at a place where it is easily accessible for young adults without cars/licenses. Girls afraid to tell their parents, or girls whose parents don't let them get birth control are the ones that we need to worry about. Schools also need to step up on their sex-ed programs, saying that abstinence leads to other bad things, and it doesn't. Stop lying to our children! Teach them the necessary things to be taught.


I don't think anyone under 30 has any business raising a child. Though, having sex is a big responsibility and needs to be treated as such. Sex isn't "bad", even for teens under 16, what's bad is that they don't understand what the consequences could be for sex. People say "once you have sex you give away your body". Untrue.

Stop f**king treating it like it's such a big deal to lose your virginity. It's not. The big deal is, losing your virginity and becoming a mother.
 
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post Aug 21 2008, 06:32 PM
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Birth control should be available everywhere and someone shouldn't have to jump through hoops to protect themselves.

^I agree. This taboo on sex that America has is absolutely ridiculous and does more harm than good. People have sex. Young people have sex. They like having sex. Deal with it.

Many schools don't teach sex-ed or teach abstinence-only "sex-ed". They want to leave it up to the parents to teach but 8/10 times, the parents don't say anything. The kids don't learn anything about birth control and have sex and get pregnant. The same system who didn't teach them how to protect themselves then tells them that they can't get an abortion and they have to raise the child themselves.
 
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Today the pharmacy attempted to charge me $53 for my pills. That's with insurance. What kind of shitty insurance plan won't cover birth control, for f**k's sake? Do we want people to have unwanted children? I think not.

Anyway...teaching people does not lead people to have sex. Just because someone acquires a condom does not mean that they're going to run out and find someone to use it with. And if someone already has a partner, not teaching them how to avoid pregnancy is certainly not going to prevent them from having sex. I was talking to my roommates the other day, who went to a small rural school, and they said that they were never taught about safe sex at all, and that it took them a really long time to find out about the pill. Definitely not a good education method.

(Admittedly, I only posted in here because I was bitter about the $53)
 
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post Aug 21 2008, 10:03 PM
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I'm on the fence about this.
Giving birth control pills and condoms can be seen as the school promoting sexual activity. They are promoting safe sex, but it's sex nonetheless.
And in a way, the Jr. High is saying that it's okay to have sex that young.

Kids are more comfortable about sex when they are not with their parents.
I don't know anybody who would be okay with asking their parents for birth control presciptions.
But middle school kids are still minors, so legally and technically, their parents do have a say.

Sadly, sex isn't reserved for high schoolers and adults anymore.
The fact that middle school kids are participating in sex is unfortunate.
But it can't be ignored..

So..I don't know.
I guess if these kids really can't control their raging hormones, then I'd rather see them have sex safely.
 
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post Aug 21 2008, 10:07 PM
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even though middle schoolers or highschoolers hould be having sex i think its still a good idea to give birth control. cause its better not getting pregnant even though it would hurt to find out someone has had sex

my mum is all like "dont have sex or ill kill you" but then shes like "if you want birth control ill freak out but ill be calm"
which also makes no sense to me XD
 
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QUOTE(MissUchiha @ Aug 21 2008, 08:07 PM) *
my mum is all like "dont have sex or ill kill you" but then shes like "if you want birth control ill freak out but ill be calm"
which also makes no sense to me XD

It's mom language.
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post Sep 3 2008, 12:16 PM
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I'm all for promoting awareness in as many ways as possible. Parenting is a serious work and responsibility and teenagers are not ready for it. You need to get yourself a career before parenthood .
 
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post Sep 3 2008, 12:47 PM
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I say give it to them. Who needs more bastard kids in this world that no one wants or wanted in the first place.
 
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post Jan 24 2009, 12:40 PM
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QUOTE(MissUchiha @ Aug 21 2008, 09:07 PM) *
even though middle schoolers or highschoolers hould be having sex i think its still a good idea to give birth control. cause its better not getting pregnant even though it would hurt to find out someone has had sex



I agree.
even though its wrong for middle schoolers to have sex i would rather see a day when they were more smart and responsible to take the first step in getting BC then ending up on the maury show or someshit.
 
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post Feb 13 2009, 07:44 AM
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Good God, after reading the thread; I must say I'm glad I'm movin out of the U.S.

When I was in Middle School... this sort of talk was unheard of. Now a days children are having sex even in 4th-5th grade.
 
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post Feb 13 2009, 08:04 AM
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i don't get why that makes you want to leave the country or what that has to do with birth control. kids didn't talk about sex when i was in 4th grade either really. but, now they do, so they should be educated on stuff earlier.
 
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post Feb 13 2009, 08:14 AM
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I don't want my future children interacting with other children who are already influenced into thinking and wanting sex.
 
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post Feb 13 2009, 08:17 AM
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teach them what's right and what's not then. i'm just going to educate my kids and make sure they know stuff. to me that is more practical than trying to remove them from ever having to interact with opinions i don't like. there's no way around that.
 
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post Feb 13 2009, 08:23 AM
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Bro... c'mon man. Look at majority of the kids in this forum. Look at majority of the threads in this forum. This is evidence of today's youth... either their parents don't give a shit about them or their parents are tryin hard but these children just don't give a shit. That's the only options here.

I'm not raisin my kids here only to lock them up as soon as they get out of school. They should have friends but no way in hell am I gonna allow their friends to influence them and now a days there's way too many things outside of a home that influence the young, they're very vulnerable.
 
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post Feb 13 2009, 08:33 AM
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yeah i just don't think there's much way around kids at some point being around bad influences. i'm more in favor for preparing them for that than trying to stop the inevitable. i think my kids will make the right choices if i raise them right.


but i would agree that a lot of parents today don't seem to give a shit. which is on topic with this thread because i would say that teaching abstinence only and not telling teenagers about birth control falls under not giving a shit. any sane and caring parent who gave a shit would educate their kid about sex in today's world. lots of them are just setting themselves up for what happens becuase they won't do their job already.





 
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post Feb 13 2009, 12:47 PM
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I think a lot of people also said this
but just giving them that stuff, they'll think that their safe
but at that age and having sex and basically regretting it hurts not physically but mentally too
i think parents should be responsible
but also the school should just scare the shit out of them and basically just say the cons of it
 
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post Feb 13 2009, 03:04 PM
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in my middle school, they were required to KEEP condoms in the nurses office.
same in my high school. but i've never heard of the whole birth control thing.
 
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QUOTE(YukkaPukka @ Feb 13 2009, 03:04 PM) *
in my middle school, they were required to KEEP condoms in the nurses office.
same in my high school. but i've never heard of the whole birth control thing.


Jeees... what ever happened to "lolli pops and band-aids"
 
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post Feb 13 2009, 03:15 PM
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^it's for the kids who decide to have sex, but have no other way to get condoms.
it's better than the, getting pregnant, right?
 
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post Feb 13 2009, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE(YukkaPukka @ Feb 13 2009, 03:15 PM) *
^it's for the kids who decide to have sex, but have no other way to get condoms.
it's better than the, getting pregnant, right?


Well does your school at least inform the parents? That their child just walked into the nurses room and asked for a condom?
 
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Nope.
 
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post Feb 13 2009, 03:26 PM
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lol then let the little shits get pregnant, they need a lesson taught. Then they need to get exploited in public so all the children can see how they just screwed their lives up.
 
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Oh how I have not missed you.

I don't know why you think other countries are less sexualized.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics...ather-case.html
 

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