http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080821/ap_on_...r/mccain_houses


Obama raps McCain for ignorance of his own houses

WASHINGTON - John McCain may have created his own housing crisis. Hours after a report that the Republican nominee didn't know exactly how many homes he and his multimillionaire wife own, Democratic rival Barack Obama launched a national TV ad and a series of campaign stops aimed at portraying McCain as wealthy and out of touch.

wow ....

Damn, he is an idiot I wouldn't want a president who doesn't even know how many properties he own, leading a whole country.

Yeah, what a douche. Who needs 7 houses anyway? If he's just going to forget about them he might as well sell them(or give them away for charity! Make him seem like a decent human being, or well, human).

He's also criticized Obama for having "ambition to be president." As if McCain doesn't. He's a douche.

Tuuuuuuung, don't double post.

That's really unimpressive, though. Bad move on his part. How many houses you own is a pretty important number to know, particularly when you're trying to present your opponent as an elitist.

Well put. Who's the real elitist: an eloquent, college-educated man, or a guy who owns so many houses he can't keep track of all of them?

hmmmmmmm. this is somewhat stupid, but yeah.

i saw the ad the democrats put out about this. i thought it was sorta a stretch to suggest we're supposed to care that when asked he wasn't positive. not as far a stretch as mccain suggesting we should make some connection between paris hilton and barack obama...but still. they own a lot, he's old, i won't hate on him too much that he didn't know right on the spot. either way i hope this fades out fast because it's insignificant in the grand scheme of the election.

On the news they were talking about this and I guess that Obama wanted McCain to not say anything about his wife, and people were trying to say that Obama is picking on McCain's wife because she owns the homes. They're married, so her stuff is his stuff, too.

If he forgets how many homes he has, I wonder how much he'll forget if he gets office.

But...we're talking about houses, not, like...t-shirts or something. You can't honestly trust someone who "forgets" how many houses he owns. They're houses, for God's sake.

yeah i know what you're saying, but i guess regardless it's not a big issue to me. i don't trust him to begin with, but this isn't even significant enough to me to add to my list of reasons i'm not for him.

LOL, hmm... I think the lack of surprise is a sign..

But you're saying we can trust someone who can't remember his own positions?

Both sides keep positing that we can't trust the other because of whatever the political gaffe of the week happens to be. Yes, McCain is a dork. So are the majority of politicians. Welcome to the world.

Actually, I don't believe I did.

Actually, I don't believe I said I could.

Its pretty significant because he's trying to frame Obama as an elitist, and there he is having 7 houses and not being able to count them. it also proves how out of touch he is with the people he wants to vote for him. Yeah, he can have his 7 houses whyile a lot of Americans are worried about keeping one.

P.S. I'm not bashing you at all, just giving my opinion on why I think this is significant.

yeah yeah yeah, but is either candidate really "in touch" with what it's like to be a normal person right now? they're both rich.

i dont think a senator's salary leads to being rich, at least not super rich anyway. Obama is in touch with the working class, he was a community planner for years after all.

McCain is super rich due to his wife. Obama might have been in touch at some point, but right now I don't think he's all that in touch. no one on that level can really be, in my opinion. but yeah i would agree Obama is closer to being in touch, that's who i'm supporting at the present moment.

You did by contrasting the two candidates in the aforementioned regard, which implicates that one is not guilty of the factor you're taking to issue with.

I made no such contrast. I didn't mention any candidate but McCain when I made the comment about trust.

So when you asked, "Who's the real elitist: an eloquent, college-educated man, or a guy who owns so many houses he can't keep track of all of them?", the former must not have been about the other candidate. In that case, you've committed a non sequitur.

Obama's swag >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MCain's old ass

Ah, but you didn't quote my comment about elitism; you quoted my comment about trust. In fact, you specifically mentioned trust, because you were trying to twist my words around. In doing so, you made a fallacious straw man argument in which you attempted to assert that I said that Obama was more trustworthy than McCain. I didn't; I said that Obama was no more of an elitist than McCain. Here's a repost of that exchange:

McCain and Obama are suck

Mobile Soldier Gundam of president is vote

Haha, wow. Someone is DUMB. Old and dumb.