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post Aug 3 2008, 05:03 PM
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i was watching this show taboo on national geographic, and it was talking about the taboos of sex changes.

now, recently a pregnant man just gave birth to a little girl. (the man was born a woman, married another woman but because the wife had a hysterectomy, he was the one that carried and birthed the child).

how do you feel about their need to be accepted in society but still wanting to still conceive a child?

personally, i have a strong disagreement with this. if they want us to accept the fact that they changed their whole appearance and attitude then that i can do. but if a woman who changes into a man, still has her reproductive organs and then wants to conceive a child, i don't agree with. if you want us to accept you as a man, then that's what you are. but i will not accept you for being a woman, who wanted to be a man, and now wants to be a woman and conceive a child, then i feel that they should be a woman again. you can't have both worlds and expect society to accept you as who you are. unless you're a hermaphrodite.
 
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brooklyneast05
post Aug 3 2008, 05:08 PM
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my view on this is...who cares? i don't care what people wanna do in their own private relationships with each other. it doesn't effect me, who i'm with, or my family so i don't personally see the problem. why do you care what other couples do if it's not harming you?


"society" is too concerned with things that shouldn't even really matter to them personally unless they are somehow involved.
 
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post Aug 3 2008, 05:26 PM
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why do people make such a big deal out of this human being a "man" and having a kid? how many other transgender people do you think have had kids? why is this couple any different?
 
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post Aug 3 2008, 05:42 PM
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To each his own.
Who are we to judge?
 
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post Aug 3 2008, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(MissFits @ Aug 3 2008, 06:42 PM) *
To each his own.
Who are we to judge?


Who are you to judge me for judging?
 
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post Aug 3 2008, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Aug 3 2008, 06:08 PM) *
my view on this is...who cares? i don't care what people wanna do in their own private relationships with each other. it doesn't effect me, who i'm with, or my family so i don't personally see the problem. why do you care what other couples do if it's not harming you?
"society" is too concerned with things that shouldn't even really matter to them personally unless they are somehow involved.


Ditto.
 
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post Aug 3 2008, 08:30 PM
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I honestly don't care. As long as they're not hurting anyone, I don't care what they do with their private lives.
 
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post Aug 3 2008, 08:39 PM
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Yeah, we'll probably never really know the full story. shrug.gif But I think we should just let them do whatever they want. They probably have a bunch of media on them because he's the "first" man to give birth but people are still people. It may be a little odd but thats life, ya know?
 
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post Aug 3 2008, 08:40 PM
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i don't really get though all that hype about him being the first man to give birth if he wasn't really a man anyway...that doesn't even count.
 
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post Aug 3 2008, 09:33 PM
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It is a little weird. If I saw a pregnant man walking around, I'd probably stare. I wouldn't gawk, but I would deffinitely have to look twice. I don't really care what he/she does, it doesn't affect me. I have better things to waste my time on.
 
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post Aug 4 2008, 06:50 AM
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Ok, why the need to worry about what everyone else does with their body? Ok yeah someone acting and looking like a man having a baby is weird, but you know what times are changing and no one is the same. Let people live their lives and everyone else move on with theirs!
 
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post Aug 4 2008, 07:57 AM
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QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Aug 3 2008, 11:08 PM) *
my view on this is...who cares? i don't care what people wanna do in their own private relationships with each other. it doesn't effect me, who i'm with, or my family so i don't personally see the problem. why do you care what other couples do if it's not harming you?
"society" is too concerned with things that shouldn't even really matter to them personally unless they are somehow involved.

Amen.

This is one of those things which to me is just like 'if you don't lie it, then don't DO it, and shut the f**k up.'
 
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post Aug 4 2008, 08:24 AM
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i was watching this show taboo on national geographic, and it was talking about the taboos of sex changes.

now, recently a pregnant man just gave birth to a little girl. (the man was born a woman, married another woman but because the wife had a hysterectomy, he was the one that carried and birthed the child).

how do you feel about their need to be accepted in society but still wanting to still conceive a child?

personally, i have a strong disagreement with this. if they want us to accept the fact that they changed their whole appearance and attitude then that i can do. but if a woman who changes into a man, still has her reproductive organs and then wants to conceive a child, i don\\\'t agree with. if you want us to accept you as a man, then that\\\'s what you are. but i will not accept you for being a woman, who wanted to be a man, and now wants to be a woman and conceive a child, then i feel that they should be a woman again. you can\\\'t have both worlds and expect society to accept you as who you are. unless you\\\'re a hermaphrodite.

i agree i will chop a bitches dick off if she pulls out a dick and says \\\"i was born a man\\\". i do not support that shit at all. its cool if you going to get a sex change but just get the hell away from me.
 
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post Aug 4 2008, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(Melie @ Aug 3 2008, 05:03 PM) *
i was watching this show taboo on national geographic, and it was talking about the taboos of sex changes.

now, recently a pregnant man just gave birth to a little girl. (the man was born a woman, married another woman but because the wife had a hysterectomy, he was the one that carried and birthed the child).

how do you feel about their need to be accepted in society but still wanting to still conceive a child?

personally, i have a strong disagreement with this. if they want us to accept the fact that they changed their whole appearance and attitude then that i can do. but if a woman who changes into a man, still has her reproductive organs and then wants to conceive a child, i don't agree with. if you want us to accept you as a man, then that's what you are. but i will not accept you for being a woman, who wanted to be a man, and now wants to be a woman and conceive a child, then i feel that they should be a woman again. you can't have both worlds and expect society to accept you as who you are. unless you're a hermaphrodite.


why does this matter to you so much? you were WATCHING IT ON TV. ha. it doesn't affect you whatsoever! and i really don't think (s)he was expecting society to accept (her)him, even before he decided to conceive.
if (s)he really wanted us to pay so much attention to (her)him, (s)he would be acting like chris crocker.
 
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post Aug 4 2008, 01:25 PM
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I think you're full of shit.
 
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post Aug 4 2008, 02:21 PM
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^ I think you need to cut your own shit out.


As far as this topic is concerned, I agree with what seems to be the most prevalent reaction towards this topic: unconcern?

I agree in that there are subjects that have absolutely no correlation with my personal life and thus I have no right to force my own ideas upon them. However, there are some cases where I feel that what others do (whether or not their decisions or actions personally affect me) will still warrant a response from me? Ruthless murders are what comes to mind, but that may just be the emotionally unstable side of me talking. /rather off-topic
 
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post Aug 4 2008, 02:29 PM
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Personally I don't care and don't feel the need to judge.
Gay people[[including pregnant ones]] in this society are going
though the same thing black people went though back in the day.
It's really none of your concern as long as they never come in
contact with you. Just accept it because their going no where
and as society grows so will pregnant man. Just get over it.

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post Aug 4 2008, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(AsH-lYnn @ Aug 4 2008, 02:29 PM) *
Gay people[[including pregnant ones]] in this society are going
though the same thing black people went though back in the day.

you must be crazy rofl1.gif
 
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post Aug 4 2008, 02:41 PM
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^ Someone needs a history lesson.

QUOTE(LiinaBeana @ Aug 4 2008, 06:50 AM) *
Ok, why the need to worry about what everyone else does with their body?
From the way I see it, that's part of the reason people do it. The world sees the person as a male when they feel like a female. So they change their apperance so that they rest of the world will see them as they feel. And then the outside matches the inside, too. I'd hate to know the full cost of people that go through all those surgeries.
 
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how am i crazy and why do i need a history lesson? stubborn.gif

people in todays society don't except gays like white
people didn't except black people...
now don't get my words twisted black people went
through a lot more bull...but...still we weren't
excepted...even though we were and still are humans...
 
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post Aug 4 2008, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE(AsH-lYnn @ Aug 4 2008, 02:29 PM) *
Gay people[[including pregnant ones]] in this society are going
though the same thing black people went though back in the day.



This hasn't happened to me lately.
 
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post Aug 4 2008, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE
black people went
through a lot more bull
...but...still we weren't
excepted

forget it... _dry.gif


.OVER.
 
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post Aug 4 2008, 03:14 PM
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I don't know about you but I haven't heard of any cases of people enslaving homosexuals and lynching them. Gays can use the same waterfoutian as a straight people. They can go to the same schools. I don't see how you can make that comparison. Yes, there are hate crimes against gays, but what I am saying is that the numbers don't add up.

And I'm going to stop now, before this becomes an argument.

Just sayin'
 
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post Aug 4 2008, 03:15 PM
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lol sucks that you wasted time
 
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post Aug 4 2008, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(AsH-lYnn @ Aug 4 2008, 10:02 PM) *
how am i crazy and why do i need a history lesson? stubborn.gif

people in todays society don't except gays like white
people didn't except black people...
now don't get my words twisted black people went
through a lot more bull...but...still we weren't
excepted...even though we were and still are humans...

Man, wtf? This is practically one of the worse comparaisons I've ever witnessed. If you're trying to point out discrimination, you should probably word it differently. Why not compare AIDS to homosexuality and slavery while you're at it?
 

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