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![]() SaSuKeNaRu ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 223 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 22,819 ![]() |
Anyone believe this? I do.. the whole spiritual realms and energy and ppl who can wield powers.. yea thats true but the old salem witchtrials and folklore spread by word of mouth changed what witches really represented. They communed with the earth and summoned energies from it by either praying to a god or just being in tune with the earth. This is all stuff ive read and history books.. if im rong and if someone here is wiccan then please correct me. just wanted a view on stuff like this
Also- Satanism has NOTHING to do with witchcraft lol if ur wondering why i looked this up, it was for my RPG lol |
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im' edible ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,529 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 23,022 ![]() |
withcraft HAS ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with satanism. im actually a witch sorta.
i can only cast charms/curses. some of them worked ><;;. anyways, witchcraft is portrayed so evil by Christianity. but it isnt true. |
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![]() ThePinkPanda ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 760 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 13,168 ![]() |
Ugh.. I hate it when people think Sadism and Witchcraft are the same.
Some spells actually work, I've tried. (I wish I hadn't) But yeah, a lot of stuff about it is fake and made up. People do it just for money. So mote it be! ![]() |
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![]() Dark Lord of McCandless ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 ![]() |
I sacrifice to Pallas Nike, Winged Goddess of Victory, before every debate tournament.
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![]() dripping destruction ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 ![]() |
paganism and witchcraft are different.
pagans worship more than one god. that's all. not nature worshipers, no. Pallas Nike?? are you crazy?? victory, you may get while still failing. sacrafice to Pallas Athena. it's out there, i suppose. people who can channel energys of the earth and such. but these people don't go around doing show biz. those people are fakes, in my opinion. X-files. may Mulder be with you. |
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![]() Dark Lord of McCandless ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 ![]() |
QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 25 2004, 10:00 AM) Pallas Nike?? are you crazy?? victory, you may get while still failing. sacrafice to Pallas Athena. Nike is a servant of Athena. By paying homage to Nike, one pays homage to Athena just as one pays homage to Latona by paying homage to Apollo and Diana. |
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![]() dripping destruction ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 ![]() |
praying to the lesser goddess does not bode well with the greater.
pray to athena and you gain the favor of athena as well as all her servants. |
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![]() Don't wake ghostie. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 3,546 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 2,405 ![]() |
well i barely know any about it (all i know is really wicca) but i believe that if you believe in it it's true.
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*Kathleen* |
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I was going to convert to Wiccan. I suppose I was too impatient to wait the whole year of practicing before I could officially become one. I was going to be initiated and whatnot by my friend's mom who has been one almost all her life. I did try a few spells, and they worked, so yeah, I believe in them. They weren't things that can be found as coincidences, either.
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![]() Dark Lord of McCandless ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 ![]() |
What... the... hell...?
What spells are these Kathleen? |
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*Kathleen* |
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Haha. Oh just spells to make me win more Lincoln-Douglas tournaments...
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 192 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 24,692 ![]() |
i went through the witchcraft phaze.. have a book and everything.. did the whole ritual thing... even played ouija board.. however u spell it?
i dont know if i truly believed in it.. just.. thought it was very interesting. |
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im' edible ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,529 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 23,022 ![]() |
i heard of wiccan before, ooooooooo too bad i dont know anyone who is actually in it...i want to try their spells
![]() oh yeah i found an article that answers your questions: QUOTE Is Wicca a form of Satanism? The short answer is "No." The long answer is "It depends." To some conservative Christians, all religions other than their own are forms of Satanism in which followers worship Satan or one of his demons. So, they view Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, Wicca, and dozens of other religions as varieties of Satanism. However, most people recognize that there are over many dozens of religions in the world, with different beliefs about deity, humanity and the rest of the universe. One of these is Wicca. Another is Satanism. These two religions have entirely different beliefs about deity, different rules for ethical behavior, different expectations from their membership, different views of the universe, different seasonal days of celebration, etc. Wiccans do not recognize an all-evil deity like Satan; he belongs to Christianity and Islam. Wicca and Satanism are not at all similar religions. However, the Christian church linked them in the past -- particularly during the Witch burning times of the late Middle Ages and Renaissance. They regarded Witches as Satan worshipers. Some Christian denominations have not been particularly thorough in correcting mistakes of the past. So, Wicca and Satanism continue to be linked in many people's minds. another: QUOTE Is Wicca a form of Paganism?
"Pagan" is one of those religious terms which has so many conflicting definitions that the word is meaningless. "Neopaganism" is a better term. It refers to a group of many religious belief systems that are reconstructions of (or patterned after) ancient Pagan religions. Wicca is one Neopagan religion, as are Asatru (Norse Neopaganism), Druidism, Shamanism, and ancient Egyptian, Roman, Greek and other religions. |
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![]() Dark Lord of McCandless ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 ![]() |
QUOTE(Kathleen @ Jun 25 2004, 6:31 PM) Haha. Oh just spells to make me win more Lincoln-Douglas tournaments... ![]() Aha! I knew it! That Magical Flower of Zeus did protect me quite well in rounds ![]() |
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im' edible ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,529 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 23,022 ![]() |
QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jun 25 2004, 7:16 PM) Aha! I knew it! That Magical Flower of Zeus did protect me quite well in rounds ![]() i heard of wiccan spells and charms. basically their spells are based on charms like evil spells and healing spells. wiccans are prohibited to use evil spells like curses to manipulate people. manipulation is VERY prohibted in wicca. so they only use "good" charms. charms are basically based on manipulation...so its not like harry potter where you can cast a fireball or make thigns float. anyways..wiccan spells and charms are very very easy (from phrases to movements) or very very complicated (to having rituals..etc.) i wished kathleen would remember and teach me some healing charms. ^^'"" ![]() |
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![]() Dark Lord of McCandless ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 ![]() |
Damnit, curses are the funnest spells.
Bireme ... $1,000,000 Ten Years' Warfare ... $100,000,000,000 Polyphemus's Eye ... $50 Enchanted Island ... $20,000,000 Magical Flower of Zeus ... $100 (in virgin sacrifices) Watching your Teammates run around squealing like pigs ... Priceless |
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im' edible ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,529 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 23,022 ![]() |
QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jun 25 2004, 7:25 PM) Damnit, curses are the funnest spells. Bireme ... $1,000,000 Ten Years' Warfare ... $100,000,000,000 Polyphemus's Eye ... $50 Enchanted Island ... $20,000,000 Magical Flower of Zeus ... $100 (in virgin sacrifices) Watching your Teammates run around squealing like pigs ... Priceless yeah but only a few wiccans know curses and those are prohibited..so i dont think any wiccan would teach u curses if you are going to abuse them. ![]() |
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![]() Dark Lord of McCandless ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 ![]() |
I'll have to lure them to my evil island and force them too... All the spells in the world ain't gunna help u when I stick a Sarissa up yo ass.
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 103 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,524 ![]() |
Wicca...I once wanted to convert. I even told my mom, and she's like a devout Catholic. I did charms, helped friends, etc., but now, I don't do it as often as I used to. I still go into botanicas to buy my candles, powders, charms, but not like before. It sure was fun tho. I think one of my powders helped me ace one of my classes and helped me ace a test! It wasn't a coincidence...lol
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 7,048 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 22,696 ![]() |
ive always been interested in this subject and the subject of vampires and such.... my friend used to be a wiccan but she isnt anymore.... but once she said she would put a spell on me but shes not aloud to because its against their law
anyway i learned all of this from a show i watched called mad mad house because there was a wiccan on there called Fiona Horne heres her website http://www.fionahorne.com/ also i have a post on vampires http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...977&hl=vampires |
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![]() SaSuKeNaRu ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 223 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 22,819 ![]() |
Its a real tough topic... so much controversy and religious dispute but like most things, there is good AND evil. Good witches represent the white side of the wiccan religion and the other is the darkness or black. White magic heals and Black magic curses and banes life. From necromancy to spells of healing, these are all feasible to human beings. Why can we not wield such things?
History and spell books have been destroyed. Witches didnt want powers to be abused by descendants of dark witches (all which i read in my wicca history books) Since medieval times, witches were always framed for the supernatural which ironically ruled the time ; from wizards to king arthur, basically magic ruled the world. Until time passed and witches were constantly killed for the "powers" they were gifted with and soon people who did not even share the craft became victims. ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^^^^^ (im not sure if this is all right; just another book) Also, people think wiccans can cast furious spells to destroy everything. thats completely rong. The Rule of Three or Rule of Returning states spells casted to harm or affect another shall be returned 3x back in intensity or duration. People think the craft is just easily adoptable and fun to mess around with but no, you can REALLY hurt someone and urself if u invoke the unknown. There are some basic spells like cleansing and healing that resemble miracles. But be forewarned, the craft leads into desire and can draw into greed and power which easily corrupt us all. lol im done with my speech now ^^ |
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 413 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,733 ![]() |
whoa what a cool and wierd topic, i always thought witchcraft and stuff in that category was bullhicky but reading the whole topic really changed my mind
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![]() Two Lives, One Truth ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 65 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 9,148 ![]() |
HEY IMMA WITCH.
LOL. Just thought i'd say so. Its true, since the Salem Witchtrials, and the Christianity Revolution, witches had to hide in the "shadows". Hence the name the "Book Of Shadows". I think the reason why Christians frown upon Witches and Wiccans (W&W) is because W&W worship more than one god (polythestic), and not just one "divine", so therefore is seen as a sin, because W&W dont worship the biblical god. But truly, Evil is only in the Eye of the Beholder. W&W follow a simple rule, "An It Harm None, Do As Ye Will" meaning that in every action that the W&W perform is shouldn't hurt anyone, or anything everywhere, in the different realms, planes, and dimensions, as well as our world. This includes, from buildings to plants, the evilist of people to the most helpless, Including the Caster. W&W also follow a "Three-Fold Law" which states that "What thee sends out will return to thee three-fold." meaning that is the caster sends out negative energy then he or she would also recieve consequences as well, in fact 3x the amount put out. This also works vice-versa for Positive energey. Release Positive Energy, and you recieve Positive 3x the amount put out. One thing also is that W&W work WITH the divine to make there life better, calling on the God and/or Goddess that they feel strongly connected to calling them their "Lord and Lady". Not all W&W follow this, but from my understandings majority, or a lot, do. If you need to know anything else, i am more than happy to help you to the best of my abilities. |
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 53 Joined: Feb 2005 Member No: 104,303 ![]() |
witchcraft... I think it's real. I think when you use witchcraft, it keeps you from using your brain properly... if that makes any sense...
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![]() i'm susan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 13,875 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 5,029 ![]() |
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh witchcraft is more like Satan stuff.... what are you talking about? If you didn't know, in the biblical times, there was a witch that God didn't like. The Satan tells what the witch to do. Well there can be a bad witch and a good witch. Good witch doesn't follow the Satan's rule. But the bad witch follows God by using good spells.
Well yeah witchcrafts are real... cause it appeared in the bible hehh... |
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