What, who the hell says Kanye's beats aren't good? He started out and got famous because of his ill beats! Hell thats why his albums are genius, his rapping is allright but the beat is what keeps you coming back for more. The guy is a beat machine.

kanye is so so so so sooooo much better than lil wayne. his new stuff isn't even half as good as college drop out in my opinion and it's still miles above lil wayne.

Mmmm, I agree soo much. Everyone is in love with Graduation but that shit isn't nearly as great as College Drop Out and Late Registration.

Amen.



I heard Weezy went to a private school, but I don't any sources, so I can confirm that or anything. Ninja still ain't all that though.

PS, Lil Weezy did not sell 3 million records in one week. He sold just over 1 million.

http://www.mediatraffic.de/albums.htm

Well Soulja Boy was kinda hot you know, he set the record of selling 3.5 million ringtones on just one song in one week. But then again, his song is played out.

Keep Hip Hop alive, don't buy Weezy's reckids.

o0h well I READ that he sold 3. So sorry if my info is wrong.

Jus cause something is big doesnt mean its good.stop with all the album sales it doesnt mean shit.

who says lil wayne doesnt make sense, maybe you just dont understand him. the a millie beat is pretty sick, i dont even like waynes verses. I like other peopl just think alot of people hate on wayne. I bet you havnt listened to his mixtapes...

This guy thinks of stuff other rappers dont. Hes original in a sense. I bet noone heard of the album mixtape he did about katrina huh?
"How you want it? Show me my opponent [Chewing sound]. Shoeemyponent." get it haha?

Where did you get , "Lil Wayne gets his lyrics from an R&B artist" from? Are you just speculating? Because I could have swore Gillie the Kid was a rapper who said he wrote The Carter I, but he has had much better songs since then.

As far as that underground stuff most people including myself do not want to hear a rapper with eloquent lyrics sounding depressed as hell over a microphone all the time . One of the first songs to hit mainstream did not have flashy lyrics but it was about having fun. Nas, who is supposed to be one of the greatest rappers of our time and also supposed positive artist was going to drop an album called N.I.G.G.E.R. which encourages all races to use the word. How people consider that positive is beyond me. Real talk, I have more respect for Soulja Boy than this dude, and I used to be a big Nas fan too. Also you have these backpackers talking about positive rappers like Kanye who don't rap about your typical Bitches, Hoes, Sex, and Guns.

Wait stop Kanye doesn't do that? Being a fan of Kanye myself time after time I've heard him use sexual references and call girls bitches and hoes, but yet he is looked at as a positive rapper when alot of his music is just as mainstream as the Soulja Boys and Lil Waynes. Remember when Kanye did that remix to Throw Some Ds, what was he rapping about? *Refers to sigs*

So you telling me Soulja Boy is whats destroying hip hop? I think not. And Lil Wayne has eloquent lines too, even though most of his stuff is random as hell he does have some creative lines the same people who criticize him can't even come up with if someone hinted them in the right direction.


How many Lil Wayne songs have you listened to? Lil Wayne uses tons of metaphors, probably not the ones you prefer, but its defintely in his songs.

I need something thats going to blast in my car not put me to sleep.

The mixtapes? LOL this dude doesnt rap off his head, he raps other people lyrics, R&B people's lyrics, like someone said, thats why R&B is dead. In this one song he rapped a whole verse of Alliyah lyrics. && in his mixtapes he just raps other peoples R&B hits.! this guy is no genius.

Hip Hop and R&B is dead because no one wants to listen to the truth that everyone else raps and sings about. All the rappers are rappin about these days are asses and hoes, and money, cars, pimpin' all that other stuff.

Yes, Kanye West was hot with the college Drop Out albulm. But now his new album isnt as hot because its not sellin as much as the bullsh*t is.!


Lil Wayne Is A Phoney Point Blank.

I didn't say he didn't use metaphors or whatever, I said that's what some people prefer.

Oh I got'cha

Ah ha, KC, you do put up a respectable argument on this matter. Just so you know, I ain't really gonna argue with you much since I never try to align myself too much with either radically mainstream or radically underground, 'cause I listen to both kinds with pleasure.

While you got a point about Nas vs. Soulja Boy, these two cats cover totally different styles of MCing/rapping. I mean, I personally sho'nuff wouldn't pop a Nas track at the high point of a dance party, a Soulja Boy track would probably be better suited for that ish. Then again, you don't got time to be listening for lyrical content at a dance party.

One can put you in artistic articulation while the other can rock a party.

Though, you can't say all underground/alternative stuff is depressing and about hard times and all (that seems to be the kind of image "underground" has carried, even though it's not completely true). I'd cite an example, but you prolly never heard of 'em anyway, ha ha. For real though, for starters there's Jurassic 5.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=YhZt4i92aSA
you can't say that ish is depressing, they gots a breakdancin bear up on that, lol

lol and I dunno if I can say I respect Soulja Boy more than Nas. Alright I sho don't, but that isn't to say Nas can be somewhat radical. For the record, Hip Hop is not dead, and never was. Sure, maybe it's dying, but it sho ain't dead, you just might have to look harder.


I like Kanye West 'cause he's got more skill than these other kids, imo, but that doesn't mean I always agree with him, or I think he's completely positive. I was definitely aware of that kind of other stuff, and I still think he can be arrogant at times, but while looking at other artists who are popular today, I gotta say he's up there. If not him, then Common Sense.


I can't say people like Soulja Boy and Weezy aren't hurting hip hop. Because they're so popular, they're the sort of rap that most people are exposed to and recognize. And if that's all that people know, man, the image of hip hop gets mad twisted.


For the record, I've heard as many Weezy songs as I can take in without killing anyone, lol. (A Milli, Dr. Carter, Mr. Carter, a few of his better tracks, and inevitably Lollipop which is repetitive as heck, and he's got better stuff.) Sure he could get creative and think of different ish, but I still think it's corny as hail, ha ha. That's strictly personal opinion though. I was never a fan of lines like stuff like "Hi Mr. Toilet, I'm the shit," or however it goes, or "I get more ass than a toilet seat," I don't even know who said that ish.


Anyway, I think there should be a balance between these two general styles of hip hop, artistic and party rockers. These days though, the party rockers kinda been the only thing people been hearing.

Also, you can't deny that money and corporations have had a negative twist on Hip Hop. I mean, think about it, that ish definitely wasn't there before. It's funny 'cause Hip Hop was originally a rebel music against what was mainstream at the roots, like funk.

ninja, you don't have no car, you totaled that ish, lol


Dayum, I didn't really want to make a long arse post.

@ playing Nas @ a high point in the party. I wouldn't do that either.

I agree with what you're saying about about a separation of balance. I think thats how it should be. Let the people have their artistic music and let them have their party rockers.

And I also agree if not Kanye then Common. While I prefer Ye's songs Common is more of a lyricist and I think he is one of the actually true positive rappers hip hop has. On to Lil Wayne, yeah I hated Lil Wayne myself up until the Drought 3 album. I still think some things he says is out of line while other times he gets in a zone.

And as far as corporations this is who people should point the fingers at , not the artist who are trying to make money. I think people fail to put themselves in that "If I was broke and had no money" position so they overlook that. You wouldn't do the same? You see how the media treated Chapelle when he walked away from 50 mill. The said he was crazy even though his intentions were right on the money. No matter which direction you go its always going to be looked at as a bad thing.


LMAO , but yo you got to get with the times. I'm in a Honda now.

lol @ ice-t vs. soulja boy

i just got done watching this shit on youtube

Ha ha, I edited, but you just 2fast2furious and already replied. I just added a piece of non-depressing alternative hip hop and a link.

But word man, word about the kid tryna make money, and word 'bout Dave. Hail, if I was broke phi broke (like you, lol), and I had to decide between flippin' burgers or creating (even knowingly) wack reckids that actually sell big, I'd be in the booth in a second.

Ah ha, word, I am behind with the times at the moment. Glad you didn't get caught jackin' that Honda from the lot.

SXEPHIL!

NO I WATCHED IT BEFORE I WATCHED PHIL....BUT YEAH.

i hate phil, just so you know. i seriously do, i duno why i still watch him.

hm what do you hate about him? I just recently discovered him and as of now I just consider him a reddit/digg news reporter

ive watched him for like a year plus. he used to be better. he doesn't really do that much anymore in my opinion besides just repeat random stories from online news. it's not really vlogish anymore. so i guess it depends on what you subscribe to him for. if you do for the news kinda stuff then i suppose he's prob alright, but he isn't what he used to be.