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Apr 8 2008, 12:15 AM
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in the reverb chamber. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,022 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 300,308 |
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Apr 8 2008, 08:45 AM
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cB Assassin Group: Official Member Posts: 10,147 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,672 |
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Apr 8 2008, 10:08 AM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 |
Question about that. How far have you advanced in studying Arabic? Reading the Quran in Arabic which is something I haven't done myself, but how much different is it than reading it translated? Well I still have to use a translator sometimes with some terms... There's terms that English doesn't have and that alone makes the difference. I must admit though Abdullah Yusufali's translation into English is as accurate as it can get, which has been accurate so far compared to Arabic Quran. |
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Apr 8 2008, 03:37 PM
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in the reverb chamber. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,022 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 300,308 |
Also I doubt cooking eggs and writing on a Holy book are even on the same level. They aren't. I was only drawing the analogy to show the absurdity of your statement. If there is no good reason to believe in the holiness of a book, why would it be disrespectful to slander, destroy, and or discount that book entirely? Sure people may believe in it, but, they don't believe in it for any better reason than anyone would have for believing in the Easter Bunny. |
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Apr 8 2008, 03:53 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 |
They aren't. I was only drawing the analogy to show the absurdity of your statement. If there is no good reason to believe in the holiness of a book, why would it be disrespectful to slander, destroy, and or discount that book entirely? Sure people may believe in it, but, they don't believe in it for any better reason than anyone would have for believing in the Easter Bunny. Obviously the Easter bunny isn't as important as a holy book. Easter bunny is just so that kids can get into the whole spirit of religion and celebration while enjoying it... If the Easter bunny never existed it would just be Easter on a more respectful level yet boring to children. |
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Apr 8 2008, 03:55 PM
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in the reverb chamber. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,022 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 300,308 |
Obviously the Easter bunny isn't as important as a holy book. For someone who doesn't believe in either, they're both equally as unimportant. Although, I would say I find a "holy book" offensive and dangerous where I do not find the "Easter Bunny" as reflecting either of those things. So, I think it would be "important," to "disrespect" a holy book. Yeah. |
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Apr 8 2008, 04:14 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 |
For someone who doesn't believe in either, they're both equally as unimportant. Although, I would say I find a "holy book" offensive and dangerous where I do not find the "Easter Bunny" as reflecting either of those things. So, I think it would be "important," to "disrespect" a holy book. Yeah. It's only dangerous when people take things out of context especially by reading a tiny portion of a "section" (not even the chapter) and taking it the wrong way, granted that the Bible isn't exactly the best holy book out there (if that makes sense) but we just experienced an example as to how things can be taken out of context and considered dangerous with the other guy (Nathan? forgot his name) who was posting a small piece of a section claiming that was the actual quote entirely and that Islam is dangerous while disregarding the rest of the Chapter and all the sections within the chapter. It's kinda foolish to purposely take things out of context, especially when it's soo simple to understand without parables, then misinform someone with that tiny piece of a section. And create this hatred/fear towards the religion. |
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Apr 8 2008, 09:53 PM
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with all do respect to all here, I simply gave Jesus Christ a try and never looked back since,that simple,my honest and sincere opinion.
Satisfaction guarantied,what do you got to loose? Sins maybe? you can have those back if doesn't work for you. |
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Apr 9 2008, 07:00 AM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 5,166 Joined: Oct 2007 Member No: 585,858 |
with all do respect to all here, I simply gave Jesus Christ a try and never looked back since,that simple,my honest and sincere opinion. Satisfaction guarantied,what do you got to loose? Sins maybe? you can have those back if doesn't work for you. STFU stopp makin accccounntt.. |
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Apr 10 2008, 12:22 AM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
Life's a struggle... and it's meant to be overcome, this is true. The reason why life's a struggle is mainly because of finances. The world stopped believing in prophets and began to believe in profits. Thus screwing their neighbors and others across the world for their own personal and selfish gains whether they realize it or not. How am I running away from obstacles when there's a crazy bastard with a shot gun to my head? He's now playin the game of God. He has my life in his hands, he chooses to kill me or not because he has the free will that God gave him. I'd rather have him commit murder on me, ruining his soul while I get to die benevolently. I've beaten my struggles.. and I keep beatin them, the only struggle I have is a materialistic one, one of which we depend on in order to survive. Money. Other than money... I rarely have to struggle and that's because my faith is monstrous. If I could, I would save up as much money as possible, go to a small island or a poor ass country, buy a piece of land away from humanity... and depend on planet earth to provide me with shelter, food, and entertainment. I've already dedicated 2 years of my life without materialism. No car, bike, tv, video games, board games, money, etc... and I accomplished it. So in the end of it all... I might be movin to Kauai and chill out in the jungles, eat my own fruits/vegetables, my own hunted meat, drink fresh water from the springs etc... :D Anyways, I don't fear death. I love death and welcome it with open arms. I don't fear hell because I won't spend the rest of eternity in it. I've recognized all the wrong things I've done, I've changed them all... and never have I crossed those lines again. I'm sorry I misunderstood. I thought you meant that you want to die and not within any circumstances. Not fearing death and wanting death is completely different, yet you seem to compliment both? If you love death, do you want to die? |
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Apr 10 2008, 11:22 AM
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I'm sorry I misunderstood. I thought you meant that you want to die and not within any circumstances. Not fearing death and wanting death is completely different, yet you seem to compliment both? If you love death, do you want to die? I accept death with open arms... I respect and adore death just as much as life. Doesn't mean I want to embrace it and go kill myself. But if I was layin here dying... I wouldn't beg to live any further, I would have my last day's prayer, and lay to sleep in hopes to wake up in the spiritual form. I believe that death is the ultimate freedom... not this so-called freedom that humans in superior ranks have given us, but spiritual freedom. If you want a better understanding, read up on Egyptian/Tibetan Book of the Dead. |
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Apr 11 2008, 09:59 AM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
I accept death with open arms... I respect and adore death just as much as life. Doesn't mean I want to embrace it and go kill myself. But if I was layin here dying... I wouldn't beg to live any further, I would have my last day's prayer, and lay to sleep in hopes to wake up in the spiritual form. I believe that death is the ultimate freedom... not this so-called freedom that humans in superior ranks have given us, but spiritual freedom. If you want a better understanding, read up on Egyptian/Tibetan Book of the Dead. I still do not understand this reasoning. I see that you do not fear death, but loving it seems farfetched. If I love and adore cake, I'll eat one. Why deny myself of an adoration that's within reach? Is it simply the case of "que sera sera" that you're alluding to? |
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Apr 11 2008, 10:12 AM
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I still do not understand this reasoning. I see that you do not fear death, but loving it seems farfetched. If I love and adore cake, I'll eat one. Why deny myself of an adoration that's within reach? Is it simply the case of "que sera sera" that you're alluding to? lol because death is inevitable.... death is gonna come when it decides to come. Suicide is in no way a form of divinity. |
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Apr 11 2008, 11:26 AM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE lol because death is inevitable.... death is gonna come when it decides to come. = "Que sera sera" Anyway... so you love things that are inevitble or just death? QUOTE Suicide is in no way a form of divinity. Eh, tell that to suicide bombers
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Apr 11 2008, 11:47 AM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 |
= "Que sera sera" Anyway... so you love things that are inevitble or just death? Eh, tell that to suicide bombers Why are you associating "whatever happens, happens" or "whatever will be, will be" with what I'm sayin? Maybe you should try a different approach... Suicide bombers are retarded brain washed thugs who think they're doin the work of God by being the aggressor and killin so called "evil people" it's quite ironic. In no way should they be associated to a religion just because they claim to be part of that religion. And it's spelled inevitable. Why deny myself of an adoration that's within reach? Why should I kill myself to prove my love for death?... QUOTE Is it simply the case of "que sera sera" that you're alluding to? No it's not... people till this day can't accept death as part of life. To love life you must love death equally. To love life and life only... is plain cowardice and faithlessness. |
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Apr 11 2008, 12:11 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 |
Delete this post =\.
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Apr 11 2008, 12:54 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
Why are you associating "whatever happens, happens" or "whatever will be, will be" with what I'm sayin? Maybe you should try a different approach... Suicide bombers are retarded brain washed thugs who think they're doin the work of God by being the aggressor and killin so called "evil people" it's quite ironic. In no way should they be associated to a religion just because they claim to be part of that religion. And it's spelled inevitable. Why should I kill myself to prove my love for death?... No it's not... people till this day can't accept death as part of life. To love life you must love death equally. To love life and life only... is plain cowardice and faithlessness. Sorry for missing an "a" . Don't have a cow, man. Do you want me to poke at your grammar and spelling? <edit> For example, it's spelled "killing" not "killin". =) </edit> ... You say you love it but you don't want to "be with it"? Then you don't really love it. I mean, have you ever been in love? LOL, or is something you think is unrequited? Why a different approach? What you're saying is when it (death) happens, you'll welcome it, right? You'll not fight it or resist? The idea of "que sera sera" is whatever happens, take it like a man and enjoy it or just cruise through. Rather than suggesting I take about stab at it, you need to grasp the meaning of the quote. Funny when you say "people can't accept death as a part of life". You have to walk a mile in another person's shoes to really understand, but you're saying you already do. It's funny because, there are those who are older and wiser (not to mention those with some kind of terminal illness) that still ponder death, yet here you are, merely 2x (assuming you are a healthy and robust) saying that you understand life and death. Not to be skeptical of your self-proclaimed understanding of life and death, but this whole thing is cracking me up. This post has been edited by Spirited Away: Apr 11 2008, 01:01 PM |
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Apr 11 2008, 01:01 PM
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/人◕‿‿◕人\ Group: Official Member Posts: 8,283 Joined: Dec 2007 Member No: 602,927 |
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Apr 11 2008, 01:04 PM
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Pagan? I'm neo-pagan. Anybody going to fight and slay me? At the end of it all.. yes. lol Not to be skeptical of your self-proclaimed understanding of life and death, but this whole thing is cracking me up. Thanks... I'm glad you're happy :P Just keep in mind that death is only a breath away. |
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Apr 11 2008, 01:05 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 |
Delete this post -.- again.
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Apr 11 2008, 01:05 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
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Apr 11 2008, 01:08 PM
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Apr 11 2008, 01:15 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
At the end of it all.. yes. lol Thanks... I'm glad you're happy :P Just keep in mind that death is only a breath away. Oh, I don't think about it at all =) I live the best I can and whatever comes next will be a surprise =D. I LOVE SURPRISES! Apparently Islam is takin over the Earth.. I gotta see this army of yours (jk) lol ? You saw it. |
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Apr 11 2008, 01:20 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 |
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Apr 11 2008, 01:21 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
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