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#26
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![]() i did your boyfriend ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Designer Posts: 3,335 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 4,071 ![]() |
At the same Tama, you could just NOT do whatever it is that is getting you these warnings. Wouldn't that be a lot easier on both ends? Like I said, you're just as responsible as the mods are.
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#27
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![]() i did your boyfriend ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Designer Posts: 3,335 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 4,071 ![]() |
Yeah, because what we REALLY need is a bunch of people angry and bitter about being banned for something small returning from their bans every week and talking about how the place is hella strict an no fun. We're trying to BUILD a community, not kill off the members one by one. sorry, i bumped this to the next page and i dont want James' post to be overlooked. |
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#28
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 ![]() |
Yeah, because what we REALLY need is a bunch of people angry and bitter about being banned for something small returning from their bans every week and talking about how the place is hella strict an no fun. We're trying to BUILD a community, not kill off the members one by one. You're doin it by not changin the attitudes of some of these members. You ban someone, it should teach them a lesson not to do it again. That's the point of consequences... to learn from them =\ |
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#29
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Head Staff Posts: 18,173 Joined: Mar 2005 Member No: 108,478 ![]() |
BAN! BAN! BAN! Daily bans, weekly bans, monthly bans, and perma bans. Warnings shouldn't even exist -.- Why do you think I laugh when you guys verbally warn me? All you're doin is adding a percentage and a new lil blue square underneath my avatar at MOST. =\ Erm, that's what I meant by punishment. The point of the warning system is so that the member has a chance to improve his/her behavior before being banned outright. Regarding banning, pretty much ditto James's post. o_O Trish's "you" could probably be taken to mean the general "you." QUOTE You're doin it by not changin the attitudes of these members. You ban someone, it should teach them a lesson not to do it again. That's the point of consequences... to learn from them =\ I don't think you're aware of how members' posting abilities have been disabled or their accounts suspended for bad behavior in an attempt to teach them a lesson. And again, this goes back to my other post about how sure, moderators can punish misbehaving members, but it's still up to the members themselves to change their behavior. |
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#30
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![]() James killed the radio star. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 2,095 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 589,855 ![]() |
You're doin it by not changin the attitudes of some of these members. You ban someone, it should teach them a lesson not to do it again. That's the point of consequences... to learn from them =\ Yes, it should. However, it has proven not to. And we, LEARNING FROM THE CONSEQUENCE OF THAT, are trying something new. You're idea will not work. It never has, and there is no particular reason to suggest it ever will. |
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#31
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 ![]() |
Yes, it should. However, it has proven not to. And we, LEARNING FROM THE CONSEQUENCE OF THAT, are trying something new. You're idea will not work. It never has, and there is no particular reason to suggest it ever will. That's funny I can give you a link to a forumboard and you'll see a whole different perspective. Instead of givin someone a one day ban, then they break the rules again and they get another 1 day ban.. you should then proceed to give them a 1 week ban. But whatever you say, you're the superior, I'm nothin but a useless/brainless pawn. ![]() At the same Tama, you could just NOT do whatever it is that is getting you these warnings. Wouldn't that be a lot easier on both ends? Like I said, you're just as responsible as the mods are. Well good thing I've been doin my part.. haven't received a warning of any sort for the last uh what?... 2 months maybe?, not sure. |
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#32
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![]() Live long and prosper. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 5,525 Joined: Nov 2006 Member No: 478,024 ![]() |
QUOTE In any case, my main point is that I can see how it's easier to blame the mods for cB's shortcomings but this is a community driven website, not a mod driven website. We all share equal responsibility in keeping this place alive. OMFG I LOVE YOU. Im sorry but you cant have the pitchforks and torches all after us.Its not entirely our job to make sure everyone keeps their shit in check..It comes hand in hand that our members understand that extreme spam isn't ok and that posting porn of the forums isn't ok. QUOTE BAN! BAN! BAN! Daily bans, weekly bans, monthly bans, and perma bans. Warnings shouldn't even exist -.- Why do you think I laugh when you guys verbally warn me? All you're doin is adding a percentage and a new lil blue square underneath my avatar at MOST. =\ Well then that says something about you..If you feel alot of stuff gets out of hand on here then why do you contribute to it.It be understandable if you were a "perfect example" of a member..but you yourself have a history on here.. |
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#33
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![]() i did your boyfriend ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Designer Posts: 3,335 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 4,071 ![]() |
Ok let's try not to single anyone out. Tama, I was speaking to the general "you" of the community. I said your name because it was a response to what you said. But I think that our main focus here should be what the community can do as a whole to improve, and what things would improve the site as a whole. I don't think it's necessary to point specific people out. If anything, that would be counter-productive.
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#34
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 ![]() |
Ok let's try not to single anyone out. Tama, I was speaking to the general "you" of the community. I said your name because it was a response to what you said. But I think that our main focus here should be what the community can do as a whole to improve, and what things would improve the site as a whole. I don't think it's necessary to point specific people out. If anything, that would be counter-productive. :P You guys should work on perfecting your moderation skills then. Alright enough though... I've laid my 2cents, I just hope you guys come up with something soon. There's a lot of members I did enjoy talkin to but now they're gone. |
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#35
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Head Staff Posts: 18,173 Joined: Mar 2005 Member No: 108,478 ![]() |
That's funny I can give you a link to a forumboard and you'll see a whole different perspective. Instead of givin someone a one day ban, then they break the rules again and they get another 1 day ban.. you should then proceed to give them a 1 week ban. But whatever you say, you're the superior, I'm nothin but a useless/brainless pawn. ![]() Okay, that's how the other forum handles bad behavior. Applying their methods here wouldn't necessarily work because the other forum's community is different from CreateBlog's. And I wish you'd stop trying to make it seem like we think we're "holier than thou," because we don't. You keep bringing it up simply because we might not agree with you. |
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![]() creepy heather ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 4,208 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 41,580 ![]() |
isnt that...what the feedback forum is for?
but i could understand possibly making more threads to welcome newcomers and make them feel more welcome and give them something to post about. if anything it couldn't hurt but could possibly be fun to start doing things like this |
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#37
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![]() ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 14,309 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 65,593 ![]() |
At the same Tama, you could just NOT do whatever it is that is getting you these warnings. Wouldn't that be a lot easier on both ends? Like I said, you're just as responsible as the mods are. I agree with this. I myself have been at fault for this and I'm willing to change and quit the "member bashing", "posting forbidden images", etc. If having me stop doing all that will help cB's community grow and be better, than I'm all for it. We as cB members have to work together and do something to improve the community here, and it isn't just the mods. |
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#38
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![]() I'm Jc ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Mentor Posts: 13,619 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 437,556 ![]() |
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#39
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![]() i did your boyfriend ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Designer Posts: 3,335 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 4,071 ![]() |
sorry i dont think people saw this because it got to the second page too quickly after it was posted:
QUOTE I think what's absolutely needed here is a general agreement between the members of cB. You guys want this community to succeed? Help each other out. This "inner-circle" of cb can only last for long, and you guys have seen exactly what I'm talking about. If you think that drama is the only thing that drives this website, then CHANGE that. You guys are capable of it.
I don't think that drama drives this website, I think that this tight-knit group of active cBers is actually what drives this website. You guys are valued members of this forum, and people do listen to what you guys have to say (a lot more than people listen to the mods). Because of that, you have a lot of members that get driven away by a lot of what is said around here. Then you have members that try to hold their ground and fight back against some of the drama, only to cause more drama themselves. Invite more members into the circle. Because you guys can't last forever, like I said. Some of you are going to outgrow cB, as many have done in the past. Don't you see how the circle gets smaller and smaller each year? Is that what you want? Once your little circle dies out, it's game-over and the only people you can blame are yourselves. |
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#40
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![]() Melieized ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Designer Posts: 1,372 Joined: Nov 2006 Member No: 478,715 ![]() |
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#41
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![]() Tick tock, Bill ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Administrator Posts: 8,764 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 333,948 ![]() |
Should we have a pinned topic thread like Moderator Performance, where we just discuss the current state of cB and what we can do as a community to improve it? I would like to just quickly thank you for this. It's a great idea and it sets things apart from staff feedback (not that the two don't coincide). QUOTE I like this and think it is a worthwhile endeavor. Talking about how we feel about our community can, even if it is a broad topic, outline issues that need to be addressed. I intend to contribute here in the future, with the end goal of finding ways to benefit the community boards here. Agreed. I'll keep reading through this thread and see if I can't touch upon some of the responses in a bit. |
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![]() Melieized ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Designer Posts: 1,372 Joined: Nov 2006 Member No: 478,715 ![]() |
well i guess i'll give my feedback of cb's performance.
since the drama from last week has died down, cb is now starting to slow down a bit. i would have to say that it is a good thing because it's giving the new members (or old ones that were in hiding) a chance to come out and be themselves. i have felt for awhile that certain members of cb were making things a little bit difficult for some to be able to post without the possibility of being critizied or harassed for what they say. now, i'm starting to see new members pop up and post more and all of the old members are still posting but not as much. (i'm guilty for that as well) well, that's my 2 cents. |
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#43
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![]() ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 14,309 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 65,593 ![]() |
I would like to just quickly thank you for this. It's a great idea and it sets things apart from staff feedback (not that the two don't coincide). Agreed. I'll keep reading through this thread and see if I can't touch upon some of the responses in a bit. Haha, so any news about this topic? |
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#44
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 ![]() |
Close OLD threads!!!
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![]() Tick tock, Bill ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Administrator Posts: 8,764 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 333,948 ![]() |
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,095 Joined: Jul 2005 Member No: 171,080 ![]() |
You realize that if Tama was banned, this topic would still be at probably post #3.
Problem solved. Sorry Tama, but you are the cancer to yourself. You want this to be this ideal euphoria, but you won't realize it's not. Instead, you just complain, thinking it's going to accomplish something. I've tried to give you a chance over the past couple of days, but this is so repetitive, it's annoying. |
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#47
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 ![]() |
Well we're not goin anywhere... It's quite obvious you guys want a change but you're not willin to try new things. I'm not the cancer to myself... the cancer is the lethargic superiors who have options to make a change but don't take action.
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![]() This bag is not a toy. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 3,090 Joined: Oct 2007 Member No: 583,108 ![]() |
I don't want to seem condescending, but I honestly feel like you've been rather cryptic with all of this. I don't think you've been very clear with just what we aren't doing that we're capable of doing. But just because I'd like to, I'll take a stab at it, here I go!
I do agree with you on the punishment issue - the first punishment for something is perhaps smaller, but if the "offense" is repeated, we should then tighten it up and make it more severe, not issue the SAME punishment. I don't know if specifically we've been seen doing that lately, but now that you've brought it up I think we should all be more than willing to watch what we're doing in that regard. As far as the bans go, I like the current warning system, and we ARE tightening up on the way we deal out punishments in a lot of different ways. I think that in a lot of situations a ban is too severe and just a warning will suffice. If a person receives two warnings, they are no longer an official member, and to some people that's a rough enough punishment in itself! When appropriate, bans WILL be used; I just don't think it's necessarily to limit ourselves to JUST issuing bans. The point is to make the community a better place to post, not to piss people off. Last thing. I respect you and realize that you have a lot of helpful things to say, but I really have to say that I disagree with you in a big way on the statement about how problems related to CB fall back on and reflect the staff's overall performance. I think the staff and the community play equal parts in keeping a community going. That's not to say that moderators shouldn't take on a higher responsibility for the "health" of the community, because we should. I just don't believe that during times when CB is inactive or "boring", it means that the staff is doing a bad job. EH ALSO (I know I said that was the last thing) we WILL be making it a point to close old topics that were bumped and are dated/have no chance for further conversation. |
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 ![]() |
.... Woot! Also I'd like to know what would Mods consider this: http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...t&p=2908393 Apparently it's ok to post this. |
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 3,645 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 4,975 ![]() |
Woot! Also I'd like to know what would Mods consider this: http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...t&p=2908393 Apparently it's ok to post this. I see nothing wrong with it. lmao, i just saw the pants... never mind. |
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