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Mar 23 2008, 06:32 AM
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NO WAI! R u Srs? Group: Member Posts: 1,264 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 28,094 |
We all need something to believe in and put faith towards to, and I respect that.
As for today, Sunday, I personally believe that the easter bunny shall bless and guide me to a salvation of chocolate eggs. If not, I am converting back to the energizer bunny. |
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Mar 23 2008, 08:44 PM
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Napple Hunter Group: Member Posts: 100 Joined: Mar 2008 Member No: 631,472 |
Whatever happened to good old argumentation? Do 'warm and fuzzy' really mean that much to you? He or she might be trying to convince from fear, but all you're doing is trying to convince us through compassion - neither "tactic" is very deductive. No matter how you cut the cake, you're still arguing from emotionalism - how can you expect us to believe when you can't demonstrate to us your points plainly or clearly? This is the debate forum, not the "I have feelings" forum. I guess you're right. I did kinda get caught up with the emotional part of God. 'Cause once you get past the technical part of it, a lot of it is emotion. But I guess the point I was getting at was that instead of telling people about God, you should show people God. As cliche as that sounds. Well this is a debate forum though. So yeah. I'm done at this thread, I guess. |
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Mar 24 2008, 01:55 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 |
If life is a struggle and you want to end it, aren't you running away from obstacles that God blessed you with so that you can grow and mature? Struggles are meant to be overcome. Good triumphs over Evil not by being idle or quitting, don't you know? I wanna know your take on this. If life is a struggle and you want to end it, aren't you running away from obstacles that God blessed you with so that you can grow and mature? Struggles are meant to be overcome. Good triumphs over Evil not by being idle or quitting, don't you know? I wanna know your take on this. Life's a struggle... and it's meant to be overcome, this is true. The reason why life's a struggle is mainly because of finances. The world stopped believing in prophets and began to believe in profits. Thus screwing their neighbors and others across the world for their own personal and selfish gains whether they realize it or not. How am I running away from obstacles when there's a crazy bastard with a shot gun to my head? He's now playin the game of God. He has my life in his hands, he chooses to kill me or not because he has the free will that God gave him. I'd rather have him commit murder on me, ruining his soul while I get to die benevolently. I've beaten my struggles.. and I keep beatin them, the only struggle I have is a materialistic one, one of which we depend on in order to survive. Money. Other than money... I rarely have to struggle and that's because my faith is monstrous. If I could, I would save up as much money as possible, go to a small island or a poor ass country, buy a piece of land away from humanity... and depend on planet earth to provide me with shelter, food, and entertainment. I've already dedicated 2 years of my life without materialism. No car, bike, tv, video games, board games, money, etc... and I accomplished it. So in the end of it all... I might be movin to Kauai and chill out in the jungles, eat my own fruits/vegetables, my own hunted meat, drink fresh water from the springs etc... :D Anyways, I don't fear death. I love death and welcome it with open arms. I don't fear hell because I won't spend the rest of eternity in it. I've recognized all the wrong things I've done, I've changed them all... and never have I crossed those lines again. |
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Mar 24 2008, 11:44 PM
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cB Assassin Group: Official Member Posts: 10,147 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,672 |
I would only fear death is there was no afterlife. Existence is important to me. I would rather exist in the flames of hell than just be....well....dead with no existence at all.
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Mar 25 2008, 01:04 AM
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Napple Hunter Group: Member Posts: 100 Joined: Mar 2008 Member No: 631,472 |
Anyways, I don't fear death. I love death and welcome it with open arms. I don't fear hell because I won't spend the rest of eternity in it. I've recognized all the wrong things I've done, I've changed them all... and never have I crossed those lines again. I second that. I used to be like, all freaked out like, "zomgz what if i die?" and such. But over the past couple months, I've been realizing exactly that. Like, I'm still young, and I haven't accomplished everything you have, and I haven't exactly beaten all my struggles. But honestly, I don't care if I die. I'd much rather meet God early than work out my problems. I would only fear death is there was no afterlife. Existence is important to me. I would rather exist in the flames of hell than just be....well....dead with no existence at all. O.o I'd rather not exist. Hell is more than just fire. |
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Mar 25 2008, 01:10 AM
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cB Assassin Group: Official Member Posts: 10,147 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,672 |
Depends on your beliefs of hell. In Buddhism you don't spend the rest of eternity in hell, same with Islam.
You just pay for your sins first then whatever happens from there, well happens. Being non-existent somewhat just scares me. It's like....nothing I fear thinking about that. |
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Mar 25 2008, 01:12 AM
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AIDS at RAVES. Group: Official Designer Posts: 2,386 Joined: Dec 2007 Member No: 598,878 |
I have really bad experience with preachers like this topic starter and I search this guy on google and on every forum possible he talks about this no offense but please get a life people have their own beliefs so stop preachinmg
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Mar 25 2008, 01:25 AM
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Napple Hunter Group: Member Posts: 100 Joined: Mar 2008 Member No: 631,472 |
Depends on your beliefs of hell. In Buddhism you don't spend the rest of eternity in hell, same with Islam. You just pay for your sins first then whatever happens from there, well happens. Being non-existent somewhat just scares me. It's like....nothing I fear thinking about that. Meh. Even if it's not for eternity. I'd still be impatient. Like, I could barely take four hours of detention. Not existing would just be like before you were born. The idea doesn't scare me. Sometimes I feel like it'd be nice to not exist. Hell of a lot easier. And I mean, it's not like you'd notice. :P But now I'm wondering... Can souls be destroyed? ..Should I make a new topic for that? |
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Mar 25 2008, 04:10 AM
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Vae Victis Group: Official Member Posts: 1,414 Joined: Sep 2006 Member No: 460,227 |
Why would you even ask? I've destroyed plenty of souls. Souls are for weaklings.
The fear of death and its abeyance is irrational because it's pertaining to something among the inevitable. The concept of immutable fear on a single circumstance, in contrast, is not so assured. Fear is a reactionary system, initiated through trepidation by something perceived as a threat. The catalyst, death, is a notion until realized; it cannot actually be experienced by the phobia sufferer and stored as a survival assimilation. An idea, in and of itself, cannot harm, going against the very concept of rational fear as a defense mechanism. Through an oblivious "existence", there is nothing gained; oblivion constitutes a lack thereof. It is irrational to be disconsolated about something that doesn't exist. By the way, if anyone were to argue that death being a reality succeeds it as a notion, that would incorrectly be inferring that a notion is the antonym of possibility. Sulfur said that he would only fear death in the consequence of no existence. There is no alternative to that. Otherwise, it would no longer be the fear of death, but a fear of whatever unknown is destined for occurrence. Personally, Heaven sounds like it would be Hell to me. Comfort spawns complacency. |
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Mar 25 2008, 10:37 AM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 |
Depends on your beliefs of hell. In Buddhism you don't spend the rest of eternity in hell, same with Islam. You just pay for your sins first then whatever happens from there, well happens. Being non-existent somewhat just scares me. It's like....nothing I fear thinking about that. True... it's supposed to be a process of cleansing. You pay the time for the mistakes you've made and never acknowledged nor felt guilt of. If there's no heaven or hell... then be it. I'm not scared of something that is supposed to happen. Fearing death will consume you, easily. Also Reidar made a comment about how he would fear heaven. Honestly, we don't know what heaven is. Heaven can be anything that only gives you happiness, no other emotion or physical pain. In my opinion if I could create my own heaven, it would be me flying endlessly around the universes as a form of energy. I would ask God to give me the complete history of everything that has ever existed. Well... whatever that's me :P |
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Mar 25 2008, 01:45 PM
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Vae Victis Group: Official Member Posts: 1,414 Joined: Sep 2006 Member No: 460,227 |
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Mar 25 2008, 02:28 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 |
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Mar 25 2008, 09:23 PM
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cB Assassin Group: Official Member Posts: 10,147 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,672 |
Not existing would just be like before you were born. The idea doesn't scare me. Sometimes I feel like it'd be nice to not exist. Hell of a lot easier. That's quite true, but because we already exist, it's too much to handle when you know you're going to be nothing again. Not experience pain nor suffering, love, happiness, anger, yada. Life, and existence is something I cherish, because to me it's one of the most important things to have. |
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Mar 26 2008, 03:04 PM
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Custom Member Title Group: Member Posts: 655 Joined: Feb 2008 Member No: 619,464 |
na na na don't make the philosof n*gga
life is important to have but this is important to don't have too. dificult to understand my word, but think about it n*gga |
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Mar 26 2008, 03:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 5,166 Joined: Oct 2007 Member No: 585,858 |
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Mar 26 2008, 03:08 PM
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Custom Member Title Group: Member Posts: 655 Joined: Feb 2008 Member No: 619,464 |
f**k yooooooooo
here I AM the philosof how many book about it have I read , how many thinks about it have I ? infinite fo sho |
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Mar 26 2008, 03:15 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 |
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Mar 26 2008, 03:17 PM
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Custom Member Title Group: Member Posts: 655 Joined: Feb 2008 Member No: 619,464 |
i'm speaking about machiavelli mista fake muscle but you don't know how to read right ? then go to school
dont wanna spam here |
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Mar 26 2008, 03:23 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 |
i'm speaking about machiavelli mista fake muscle but you don't know how to read right ? then go to school dont wanna spam here Mother fucker please. You can't even type in proper English. Talkin bout go back to school lol Go back to the hole you came from, your mother's pussy, you waste of space and oxygen "Niccolo Machiavelli" roflmao "Art of War". You're such a poser. |
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Mar 26 2008, 03:25 PM
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Custom Member Title Group: Member Posts: 655 Joined: Feb 2008 Member No: 619,464 |
okay
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Mar 26 2008, 03:28 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 6,349 Joined: Aug 2006 Member No: 455,274 |
okay QUOTE wanna play with B-NOX the imperialistic right ? say good bye to windowwwwwwwws He threatened my "windows" lol I use Linux kid. And the machine I use is a corporate machine, good luck tryin to crack our network credentials. Any mods would like to give me his IP address? I would like to take this threat on a serious level and bring it to the NOC department. Wouldn't mind having the FBI take this pathetic fool away from society. |
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Mar 26 2008, 03:29 PM
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I'm Jc Group: Mentor Posts: 13,619 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 437,556 |
i'd like everyone to shut up and get back on topic.
get out of debate bnox and take your little ngggdjgslgjsdlfdkjf buddy with you. |
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Mar 26 2008, 06:25 PM
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cB Assassin Group: Official Member Posts: 10,147 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,672 |
Because of the interruption...
That's quite true, but because we already exist, it's too much to handle when you know you're going to be nothing again. Not experience pain nor suffering, love, happiness, anger, yada. Life, and existence is something I cherish, because to me it's one of the most important things to have. |
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Mar 29 2008, 02:36 AM
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nicola Group: Member Posts: 66 Joined: Mar 2008 Member No: 635,560 |
Heaven is where all the interesting people are missing.
So even if it did exist, I'd rather be just chilling on the first level of Hell with Aristotle and Sophocles and Hunter Thompson for the rest of eternity. lmao theists have such funny beliefs. |
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Mar 29 2008, 02:41 AM
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nicola Group: Member Posts: 66 Joined: Mar 2008 Member No: 635,560 |
Life's a struggle... and it's meant to be overcome, this is true. The reason why life's a struggle is mainly because of finances. The world stopped believing in prophets and began to believe in profits. Thus screwing their neighbors and others across the world for their own personal and selfish gains whether they realize it or not. Life isn't a struggle meant to be overcome. That's like saying life's just a game that you need to win. Life is an amazing wonderful thing and it should be cherished and thoroughly enjoyed, because it is the only thing that is guaranteed to us and it is so, so precious. People believed in profits and selfishness faaaar before they believed in prophets. Do you have, like, no concept of history whatsoever? |
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