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 Jan 20 2008, 01:39 AM
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 DeadlyKitten  Group: Member Posts: 100 Joined: Jan 2008 Member No: 612,383  |
When it comes down to it, science can only go so far. There is a God. There is a greater power that started the growth of a seed, the heart beat of a lion, and the love inside your soul. Loook deep inside yourself then look at the stars. It's hard not to believe.
*Not everyone is a believer, and I accept that* -Don't take me posting this as a bash tword people that don't believe. A few of my best friends don't believe in God and thats fine. I posted this to see how people felt on the subject. I put how I felt. I want to know how you feel 
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Jan 22 2008, 11:24 PM
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 I'm Jc Group: Mentor Posts: 13,619 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 437,556 |
i think it was spontaneous
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Jan 22 2008, 11:25 PM
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so we did originate from nothing??
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Jan 22 2008, 11:29 PM
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I'm Jc Group: Mentor Posts: 13,619 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 437,556 |
i guess? your questions are so simple and broad it's like impossible to know what your asking.
i think there was once no life on earth and now there is |
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Jan 22 2008, 11:34 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 682 Joined: Oct 2007 Member No: 580,818 |
QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Jan 23 2008, 12:29 PM)  i guess? your questions are so simple and broad it's like impossible to know what your asking. i think there was once no life on earth and now there is ok interesting im sorry...but its hard for me to believe we came from nothin yea im not the best at explaining things thats why i keep making a fool of myself |
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Jan 22 2008, 11:35 PM
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I'm Jc Group: Mentor Posts: 13,619 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 437,556 |
well you think we came from dust that god breathed life into. that's not extremely easy to believe for some of us either.
you = dust me = abiogenesis |
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Jan 22 2008, 11:38 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 682 Joined: Oct 2007 Member No: 580,818 |
QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Jan 23 2008, 12:35 PM) well you think we came from dust that god breathed life into. that's not extremely easy to believe for some of us either. i guess? but at least theres something behind it i mean with Spontaneous Generation there was absolutely nothing and all of a sudden things start "living" where as christianity there was already something there...God no...it goes like this you = nothing me = God |
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Jan 22 2008, 11:48 PM
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 Resource Center Tyrant Group: Official Member Posts: 2,263 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 593,306 |
Debating this is like debating with little children whether or not Santa Claus exists. That some supernatural being is there to be merciful and hospitable to humanity.
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Jan 22 2008, 11:52 PM
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 The Resident Drunk Group: Head Staff Posts: 8,623 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 593,266 |
I always love to read debates like this, because you get to see people's true ignorance show.
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Jan 22 2008, 11:59 PM
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Senior Member Group: Official Member Posts: 682 Joined: Oct 2007 Member No: 580,818 |
^as i said before
i cant prove to you God exists but you cant disprove it either i can how ever through reasoning make you think about your beliefs actually after preaching to everyone i was gonna go on to say that.... "One day Millions of people will disappear causing world-wide panic and disorder. There will then be a world-wide Earthquake killing millions. Demons will come forth and meteorites and comets will hit earth killing even more people. All this in the bible" ...but im not
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Jan 23 2008, 12:01 AM
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 ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 14,309 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 65,593 |
QUOTE(JCLore @ Jan 22 2008, 07:57 PM) i'd tell you but that just ruins it for them if you want to debate something your supposed to continue and debate the topic not put ppl down when you dont know what to put Believe me, I have been debating. You on the other hand have been a total idiot with your ignorant remarks. First off, before you get on the Debate forum, have a lesson of Grammar 101. You're, not your anyone? Also, your arguments that evolution came from nothing? I believe in the Big Bang theory. Different microorganisms from the meteorites hit Earth, and that's when the new cellular organisms started developing. Over a 4.5 billion year lifespan, we first have the first organisms the bacteria, gradually evolving into to cell life forms living in water that actually moved on it's own. I'm not going to go in full detail of how life started with the evolution theory, but know that evolution has a stronger case than religion do. Don't say evolution came from nothing. Ever heard of natural selection? You do know the bible is bullshit right? Who wrote the bible? God? Edit- Yeah that's right. Go google "who wrote the bible" and come back here for a reply right? I think it's best you know more about your religion before you even try to defend it dipshit. |
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Jan 23 2008, 12:12 AM
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The Resident Drunk Group: Head Staff Posts: 8,623 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 593,266 |
QUOTE(JCLore @ Jan 22 2008, 11:59 PM) ^as i said before i cant prove to you God exists but you cant disprove it either i can how ever through reasoning make you think about your beliefs actually after preaching to everyone i was gonna go on to say that.... "One day Millions of people will disappear causing world-wide panic and disorder. There will then be a world-wide Earthquake killing millions. Demons will come forth and meteorites and comets will hit earth killing even more people. All this in the bible" ...but im not I wasn't directing that towards you lol. It was just a general statement. |
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Jan 23 2008, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE(tungmyBANANA @ Jan 23 2008, 01:01 PM) Believe me, I have been debating. You on the other hand have been a total idiot with your ignorant remarks. First off, before you get on the Debate forum, have a lesson of Grammar 101. You're, not your anyone? Also, your arguments that evolution came from nothing? I believe in the Big Bang theory. Different microorganisms from the meteorites hit Earth, and that's when the new cellular organisms started developing. Over a 4.5 billion year lifespan, we first have the first organisms the bacteria, gradually evolving into to cell life forms living in water that actually moved on it's own. I'm not going to go in full detail of how life started with the evolution theory, but know that evolution has a stronger case than religion do. Don't say evolution came from nothing. Ever heard of natural selection? You do know the bible is bullshit right? Who wrote the bible? God? you think im the one who's been making idiot remarks?? im not the one calling the other an idiot every single post without even bothering to reply to the question or debate the topic at hand im not saying evolution came from nothing...you are i dont believe in evolution Why dont you point out my grammer errors Mr.Grammer 101?? the bible was written by many ppl and then translated into many languages...i'd tell you exactly who but whats the point and the bible is just as good as any history book QUOTE(DoubleJ @ Jan 23 2008, 01:12 PM) I wasn't directing that towards you lol. It was just a general statement. sorry lol it sounded rude at the time |
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Jan 23 2008, 12:20 AM
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QUOTE(JCLore @ Jan 22 2008, 09:15 PM) Why dont you point out my grammer errors Mr.Grammer 101?? QUOTE(tungmyBANANA @ Jan 22 2008, 09:01 PM) You're, not your anyone? If you're going to try to "debate" with me, please at least my post and what I have to say before you reply. Thanks. QUOTE(JCLore @ Jan 22 2008, 09:15 PM) the bible was written by many ppl and then translated into many languages...i'd tell you but whats the point and the bible is just as good as any history book sorry lol it sounded rude at the time So you're saying the bible is pretty much a History Book? Have anyone ever taught you that a history book have many flaws such as bias opinions, and false statements derived from their bias? |
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Jan 23 2008, 12:21 AM
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I'm Jc Group: Mentor Posts: 13,619 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 437,556 |
QUOTE(JCLore @ Jan 23 2008, 01:15 AM) Why dont you point out my grammer errors Mr.Grammer 101?? it's spelled grammar =/ careful on that one people like to jump all over others about grammar here for some reason |
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Jan 23 2008, 12:25 AM
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The Resident Drunk Group: Head Staff Posts: 8,623 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 593,266 |
QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Jan 23 2008, 12:21 AM) it's spelled grammar =/ careful on that one people like to jump all over others about grammar here for some reason You are guilty of that one kind sir! J.K. JC! For some reason I feel like bothering you tonight. Oh by the by Tung, we have seen JC's face already. |
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Jan 23 2008, 12:26 AM
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٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 14,309 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 65,593 |
You mean the picture in his old sig with his stunnah shades? I can barely make it out though, the eyes are the most important man!
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Jan 23 2008, 12:27 AM
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I'm Jc Group: Mentor Posts: 13,619 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 437,556 |
when do i jump on people for grammar javonn!??!?
rarely since i'm no good at it. content means more in my opinion. tung's posts are winning on that one too though i think. i'm biased though edit: oh i see you said JK. tonight's a bad night to bother me i think, class from 9:30 - 8:30 at night. f**kingahaflwejfaekw |
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Jan 23 2008, 12:28 AM
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The Resident Drunk Group: Head Staff Posts: 8,623 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 593,266 |
QUOTE(tungmyBANANA @ Jan 23 2008, 12:26 AM) You mean the picture in his old sig with his stunnah shades? I can barely make it out though, the eyes are the most important man! WTF! Tung LMAO! Are you, dare I say it, being.........  QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Jan 23 2008, 12:27 AM) when do i jump on people for grammar javonn!??!? rarely since i'm no good at it. content means more in my opinion. tung's posts are winning on that one too though i think. i'm biased though Jeez JCI was just trying to be funny LMAO! Yes I did double post mods.
Reason for edit: posts merged cause i'm such a good mod - Jc
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Jan 23 2008, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Jan 23 2008, 01:21 PM) it's spelled grammar =/ careful on that one people like to jump all over others about grammar here for some reason well i am dyslexic i know i spelt that wrong QUOTE If you're going to try to "debate" with me, please at least my post and what I have to say before you reply. sorry that doesnt make any sense to me "please at least my posts"  look...this is it i cant be bothered to argue with you anymore as i said before i cant prove to you im right but i know im right you cant know for sure im wrong about God and Christianity unless you give it a try i used to feel the same about God and about Christians as you do |
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Jan 23 2008, 12:42 AM
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 Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
Just add "read" between "at least" and "my". Come on, it's not that hard.
edit: read the context is all. QUOTE(JCLore @ Jan 22 2008, 11:35 PM) well i am dyslexic i know i spelt that wrong sorry that doesnt make any sense to me "please at least my posts" look...this is it i cant be bothered to argue with you anymore as i said before i cant prove to you im right but i know im right you cant know for sure im wrong about God and Christianity unless you give it a try i used to feel the same about God and about Christians as you do Also, I thought you debate all the time and that you convinced a bunch of people to be Christians... were those people so easily swayed? |
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Jan 23 2008, 12:44 AM
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٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 14,309 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 65,593 |
I know people usually don't like when a post is just a quote, but this one really sums up my views on religion. It is by the master, George Carlin. Enjoy.
QUOTE But folks, I have to tell you, in the bullshit department a businessman can't hold a candle to a clergyman. Because when it comes to comes to bullshit, big-time, major league bullshit, you have to stand in awe--in awe!!--of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims: RELIGION. No contest. Religion--easily--has the Greatest Bullshit Story Ever Told! Think about it: religion has actually convinced people--many of them adults--that there's an invisible man who lives in the sky and watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And who has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to remain and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry, forever and ever, till the end of time. But he loves you! He loves you, and he needs money! He always needs money. he's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, but somehow... he just can't handle money. Religion takes in billions of dollars, pays no taxes, and somehow always needs a little more. now, you talk about a good bullshit story. Holy shit!"  Anyways, since you mention history books, I assume you know a lot about our history correct? Hey, if you read history, you'll realize that "God" is one of the leading causes of death...has been for thousands of years. Hindus, Muslims, Christians, Jews, all taking turns killing each other because God told them it was a good idea. JClore, you can continue and keep believing in this so call "God" and keep praying to "God". If I'm going to pray to anything, it'll be the Sun. Unlike "God", I can see the Sun. It's there for me every day. And the things it brings me are quite apparent all the time: heat, light, food, a lovely day. There's no mystery, no one asks for money, I don't have to dress up, and there's no bullshit. I'm tired of "debating" with a 12 year old. Steven or Nate finish it off. |
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Jan 23 2008, 12:48 AM
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The Resident Drunk Group: Head Staff Posts: 8,623 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 593,266 |
Because I am such a good mod!
JC I give you the honorary  of the day award! |
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Jan 23 2008, 12:53 AM
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QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Jan 23 2008, 01:42 PM) Also, I thought you debate all the time and that you convinced a bunch of people to be Christians... were those people so easily swayed? it was in person so yea it was a bit easier plus i wasn't gettin jumped on for every mistake i made from what i know already about Tung, which is little actually reminds me of what they were like before Tung, your not part Greek are you?? Coz they worship the sun but you know what else they do they sleep with other men for fun 
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Jan 23 2008, 01:03 AM
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QUOTE(JCLore @ Jan 22 2008, 09:53 PM) it was in person so yea it was a bit easier plus i wasn't gettin jumped on for every mistake i made from what i know already about Tung, which is little actually reminds me of what they were like before Tung, your not part Greek are you?? Coz they worship the sun but you know what else they do they sleep with other men for fun Can you like post normally, instead of writing your post out like a poem-like format?  If you want to know about my religious background, I have never been religious. Why? I don't believe in bullshit. I think religion is a form of slavery. There's those people who are free thinkers. Maybe Agnostics maybe. People who don't necessarily believe in God, but believe that there is some kind of supreme being up in the sky? Religion can never reform mankind, because religion is slavery. Hmm you seem to know something about the Sun then I assume? You do know Christianity is a parody that branch off from astrology? The Christian religion is mimic on the worship of the sun, in which Jesus Christ is in place as the worshiper instead of the sun. People pay Jesus adoration, which was originally the sun. Christianity is a joke. |
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Jan 23 2008, 01:06 AM
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QUOTE(JCLore @ Jan 22 2008, 11:53 PM) it was in person so yea it was a bit easier Yeah, I've damned a lot of souls in my day, probably a f**k lot more than you've "saved." But, that's not really important. Read these two posts and then we can begin to even consider talking: Post 1 Post 2 Alright, first off, from reading your posts, it's quite obvious that you have no f**king idea what you're talking about. I suspect that your extent of knowledge concerning evolutionary biology is limited to high school lectures (where someone's dick was definitely stuck in your ear), a few instances of peer conversation (kids are very stupid), listening in on big boy conversations (adults are also very stupid), and probably a few apologetic creationists. Ok, read a f**king book. Read some literature that actually intelligently supports evolution - go to the library or start searching the net. f**k, you can start with On The Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection by Charles Darwin. My point here is that you lack the fundamental knowledge to even begin to have a meaningful discussion here, and, I'm tired of playing teacher. Until you can demonstrate a level of even moderate competency, I'm not so sure you're worth the time or effort. |
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