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God, Real or Fake?
monster
post Jan 22 2008, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(tungmyBANANA @ Jan 22 2008, 01:23 AM) *
So who is God again?

I respect religion, I really do. I just think science makes more sense than religion do. I mean all religion ever say to explain things is, like "It's God's doing", or it's just faith. I'm a person who want explanations that makes sense, and I believe in that over "having" faith.

I'm a biology major, and I've taken many Anthropology classes, and the stuff they have discovered about evolution are amazing.

lol, this is what happens when you let a biology major out of the lab.


nosex, i'll refer back to you later; i'm brushing my teeth.
 
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post Jan 22 2008, 07:39 PM
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QUOTE(Call911Quick @ Jan 22 2008, 08:48 PM) *
"Believe" isn't the right word. For example, if I say "Aliens exist" ,and you disagree, then you are not "believing" what I say. If I say "Aliens exist because I have an unidentified object in my backyard", what I'm saying is TRUE, it IS in fact unidentified, but it doesn't mean aliens exist. You can't logically explain something that is in essence illogical.

You CAN'T prove Christianity through science and reason, trust me, I've tried.


I dont believe you laugh.gif
It might be different but I have explained christianity and God to many ppl
and debated the same thing with them
and i've won, and they are all christians now
i Admitt i cant prove to you there is a God right here right now
but you cant disprove he exist either either
Why people chose Science over God, i dont know
science can be tested and proved wrong
 
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post Jan 22 2008, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE(JCLore @ Jan 22 2008, 04:39 PM) *
I dont believe you laugh.gif
It might be different but I have explained christianity and God to many ppl
and debated the same thing with them
and i've won, and they are all christians now
i Admitt i cant prove to you there is a God right here right now
but you cant disprove he exist either either
Why people chose Science over God, i dont know
science can be tested and proved wrong

I rather believe in something that is willing to look for the answers, and test as many hypothesis as possible, than believing in something that is all about faith.
 
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post Jan 22 2008, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE(tungmyBANANA @ Jan 23 2008, 08:51 AM) *
I rather believe in something that is willing to look for the answers, and test as many hypothesis as possible, than believing in something that is all about faith.


do you believe what you read in the papers or hear on TV??
how do we know if all that happens to the Movie stars is true??
Your putting faith in what these strangers say on TV or in the paper
 
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post Jan 22 2008, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE(JCLore @ Jan 22 2008, 04:57 PM) *
do you believe what you read in the papers or hear on TV??
how do we know if all that happens to the Movie stars is true??
Your putting faith in what these strangers say on TV or in the paper

Are you like retarded? Quote me where I say I believe in movies and TV? Are you stupid? Seriously. I can't take you seriously because you look like a 10 year old dumbass, or something that came out of my ass. I'm talking about science here pal. How science have actually been searching for years to find this mystery of how life came to be, and as the day goes by, we are collecting more knowledge and data through things such as the fossil record, DNA, etc. Some of the hypothetis science has claimed, may be wrong, but that doesn't stop them from trying to find the answer. What's the answer for religion? "Oh it's God's doing" Give me some information about this so call God of which you speak please.
 
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post Jan 22 2008, 08:12 PM
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dude
im talking about faith
ppl put thier faith in anything these days
TV, News, the whole lot
i wasnt talking just to you
i was talking about everyone
they say they believe things when theres no proof
you believe what you hear
and then they say Christians are crazy
for putting faith where theres no proof

anyway
heres a question
do you believe in evolution?
 
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post Jan 22 2008, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE(JCLore @ Jan 22 2008, 05:12 PM) *
dude
im talking about faith
ppl put thier faith in anything these days
TV, News, the whole lot
i wasnt talking just to you
i was talking about everyone
they say they believe things when theres no proof
you believe what you hear
and then they say Christians are crazy
for putting faith where theres no proof

anyway
heres a question
do you believe in evolution?


Way to not read my post clearly. This is my last post I'm going to respond to you, cuz you're a complete douche who doesn't know jack shit. I rather debate and argue with Monster, as he actually have valid reasons.

So how is having Christian people tell you stuff true? It's pretty much the exact shit when TV tell you stuff. What's the differences? Religion is one of the most powerful thing today and people tend to believe what these Christian people say b/c of their stature and status. Excuse me, but religion is basically the same thing as the things you see on TV in terms of believing what people say.

Yes. I believe in evolution.
 
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post Jan 22 2008, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE(tungmyBANANA @ Jan 23 2008, 09:18 AM) *
Way to not read my post clearly. This is my last post I'm going to respond to you, cuz you're a complete douche who doesn't know jack shit. I rather debate and argue with Monster, as he actually have valid reasons.

So how is having Christian people tell you stuff true? It's pretty much the exact shit when TV tell you stuff. What's the differences? Religion is one of the most powerful thing today and people tend to believe what these Christian people say b/c of their stature and status. Excuse me, but religion is basically the same thing as the things you see on TV in terms of believing what people say.

Yes. I believe in evolution.


THEN WHY THE HELL DO YOU PPL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH CHRISTIANS!!
Your beleiveing the bull you hear on TV
and then turning around and trying to put christians down for believing in GOD

_unsure.gif im making a fool of myself here arent i??


Moving on
if you believe in Evolution...you believe we came from goo
you believe that billions of years ago non-living micro-organisms just came to life
christians believe we came from God
we believe God breathed into us and gave us life
Am i right??
 
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post Jan 22 2008, 10:39 PM
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Nate, I don't even want to reply this this idiot JClore anymore, at least Monster had reasoning and his grammar was actually good, and had strong points. Nate finish this fool for me.
 
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post Jan 22 2008, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(JCLore @ Jan 22 2008, 09:31 PM) *
Am i right??

No.
 
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post Jan 22 2008, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE(tungmyBANANA @ Jan 23 2008, 11:39 AM) *
Nate, I don't even want to reply this this idiot JClore anymore, at least Monster had reasoning and his grammar was actually good, and had strong points. Nate finish this fool for me.


then why'd you come back??
i thought you were done

you know
your not very intimidating
even though ppl tell me you are

QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Jan 23 2008, 11:43 AM) *
No.

Why??
 
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post Jan 22 2008, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(JCLore @ Jan 22 2008, 11:44 PM) *
Why??

because i don't think anything you've said is right
 
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post Jan 22 2008, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(JCLore @ Jan 22 2008, 07:44 PM) *
then why'd you come back??
i thought you were done

you know
your not very intimidating
even though ppl tell me you are
Why??


lol @ me being intimidating. Who are these "people" who told you that?

Reason for edit: deleted your double post sir - Jc
 
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post Jan 22 2008, 10:53 PM
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because i don't think anything you've said is right

then what exactly do you think IS right??
Evolution??
God??
 
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post Jan 22 2008, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE(JCLore @ Jan 22 2008, 11:53 PM) *
then what exactly do you think IS right??
Evolution??
God??

evolution
 
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post Jan 22 2008, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Jan 23 2008, 11:54 AM) *
evolution

so what do you believe about evolution??
whats your definition??
 
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post Jan 22 2008, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE(tungmyBANANA @ Jan 23 2008, 11:53 AM) *
lol @ me being intimidating. Who are these "people" who told you that?


i'd tell you
but that just ruins it for them
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if you want to debate something
your supposed to continue and debate the topic
not put ppl down when you dont know what to put
 
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post Jan 22 2008, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(JCLore @ Jan 22 2008, 11:54 PM) *
so what do you believe about evolution??
whats your definition??

"any change in the frequency of alleles within a gene pool from one generation to the next"
 
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post Jan 22 2008, 11:04 PM
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and the origin of man??
 
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post Jan 22 2008, 11:04 PM
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QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Jan 22 2008, 09:51 PM) *
because i don't think anything you've said is right

LOL.

QUOTE(tungmyBANANA @ Jan 22 2008, 09:53 PM) *
lol @ me being intimidating. Who are these "people" who told you that?

He meant God told him, Tung, get with it. =) hahah.
 
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post Jan 22 2008, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE(JCLore @ Jan 23 2008, 12:04 AM) *
and the origin of man??

evolution...i already said that



or are you saying you wanna talk about abiogenesis
 
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post Jan 22 2008, 11:09 PM
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Yup this is me not contributing....

Nate, you never cease to amaze me.
 
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post Jan 22 2008, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Jan 23 2008, 12:05 PM) *
evolution...

but doesn't that mean that we were monkeys??
and then even further down the time line...We developed from Micro-organisms??
"Spontaneous Generation" must then have occured somewhere in there??
 
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post Jan 22 2008, 11:13 PM
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i edited and asked if you were saying you wanted to talk about abiogenesis.

yeah, i think we "came from monkeys."
 
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post Jan 22 2008, 11:18 PM
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yea i guess
i mean if you dont believe in God...
then how do you beleive man came about??

sorry if i havn't exactly been clear
 
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