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Dec 5 2007, 10:21 AM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
Oh, well that sucks.
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Dec 9 2007, 11:15 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 34 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 592,175 |
Personally, I don't take the bible literally. So all those excerpts from the bible that you posted? They don't mean much to me. Think about it. The bible was written down hundreds of years after it had been passed down orally. Wrong. It was written by first hand eye witnessess. Ever heard of the game telephone? In a small amount of time, and between a significantly fewer amount of people, the message is changed. Didn't happen that way, besides God dictated EVERY word anyway. I believe in God despite that, but I don't think it's cool to be trying to convert people like this. Jesus disagrees. I agree with Jesus. Also...it doesn't require all that to be saved. God's love is beyond human comprehension; he will forgive you no matter what as long as you truly regret your sins, and ask for forgiveness. That's all you need to go to heaven. You need to repent of your sins and turn to Jesus for salvation and accept Him as your Lord and Savior. That's right. The prayer simply sums that all up and confirms it with God. My responses are in bold. |
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*jeanna* |
Dec 10 2007, 12:13 AM
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Dec 10 2007, 02:38 AM
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tell me more. Group: Official Member Posts: 2,798 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 35,640 |
^yeah, it is a debate...
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Dec 10 2007, 03:18 AM
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in the reverb chamber. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,022 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 300,308 |
This is such a good tutorial. I really think everyone should read this; it's so helpful. I feel so much better after have absorbed all this knowledge.
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Dec 10 2007, 05:37 AM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 273 Joined: Jul 2007 Member No: 547,099 |
It's obvious to tell the difference between Christians and Aethists in this forum.
Aethists flame, insult, and overall try to gun down the OP. So much hate. If there were a word similar to racist except for religion, you guys would definitely be it. You guys would be the KKK seriously, I bet you'd lynch the OP if you had the chance. The Christians, even the ones who disagree with the OP (like myself), respond in a non-aggressive manner. Sure, there are hypocritical Christians out there who do drugs or run guns or whatnot, but you can't make a generalization about Germans according to what the Nazis did, could you? Let's say this OP believes every word he says. He comes here, not offending anybody, and offers you a way, that he believes sincerely in, to go to heaven. Assuming this is FALSE, and that you choose not to accept what he says, at LEAST show him the courtesy and gratitude for having spent time in trying to "save" you guys. If you don't believe in God, at least try to follow Ghandi's example. So much teen anger and angst on these forums. I can't believe the insane amount of HATE towards Christians. Let's say some guy offers you pie. But no, you hate pie. What do you do? Most of you guys would take the pie, shove it in said guy's face, and walk away, perhaps after shoving a broom up their ass. |
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Dec 10 2007, 11:15 AM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
It's obvious to tell the difference between Christians and Aethists in this forum. Aethists flame, insult, and overall try to gun down the OP. So much hate. If there were a word similar to racist except for religion, you guys would definitely be it. You guys would be the KKK seriously, I bet you'd lynch the OP if you had the chance. The Christians, even the ones who disagree with the OP (like myself), respond in a non-aggressive manner. Sure, there are hypocritical Christians out there who do drugs or run guns or whatnot, but you can't make a generalization about Germans according to what the Nazis did, could you? Let's say this OP believes every word he says. He comes here, not offending anybody, and offers you a way, that he believes sincerely in, to go to heaven. Assuming this is FALSE, and that you choose not to accept what he says, at LEAST show him the courtesy and gratitude for having spent time in trying to "save" you guys. If you don't believe in God, at least try to follow Ghandi's example. So much teen anger and angst on these forums. I can't believe the insane amount of HATE towards Christians. Let's say some guy offers you pie. But no, you hate pie. What do you do? Most of you guys would take the pie, shove it in said guy's face, and walk away, perhaps after shoving a broom up their ass. As you know, aggression cannot be measured by words alone, it is also judged by behavior, and subtle aggression does not tantamount a lack of it. The OP is also aggressive, or do you not see it in your narrow pursuit of calling out all the aetheists here? If you believe in God, try to not to aggravate people who don't by forcing things down their throat or coerce them to accept your words as truth. Offense, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. He may not think he's being offensive, but that doesn't mean what he thinks is right for everyone else. Again, we're taught to avoid bring up politics and religion in polite conversation BECAUSE they cause CONFLICT and OFFEND people. That is a given. The OP blatantly ignores this so he should not expect anything more than the responses that were given to him in this thread. Some folks are just more honest than others and some are callous in their honesty. However, that doesn't mean they're not honest. There is no evidence of any hatred in this thread. Where did you get the idea? I see plenty of annoyance but no hate. Hate is burning women on the stakes, accusing them of being witches, or mass murdering and pillaging people who are not of the same faith. And when you offer someone pie, that pie better be good, not something you cooked up in 5 minutes with the wrong ingredients. And, if a person turn down your offer, you shouldn't try to stuff it down their throats. |
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Dec 10 2007, 11:18 AM
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RyanIsCoolerThanYou<3 Group: Member Posts: 514 Joined: May 2007 Member No: 525,502 |
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Dec 10 2007, 11:20 AM
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I'm Jc Group: Mentor Posts: 13,619 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 437,556 |
Some folks are just more honest than others and some are callous in their honesty. However, that doesn't mean they're not honest. There is no evidence of any hatred in this thread. Where did you get the idea? I see plenty if annoyance but no hate. Hate is burning women on the stakes, accusing them of being witches, or mass murdering and pillaging people who are not of the same faith. took the words right out of my mouth |
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Dec 10 2007, 04:40 PM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 273 Joined: Jul 2007 Member No: 547,099 |
Look, I don't completely agree with this guy, and I'm Christian. He's coming off pretty direct for someone trying to preach the word of God, but at least I'm not bashing him.
At least he's trying. |
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Dec 10 2007, 06:09 PM
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in the reverb chamber. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,022 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 300,308 |
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Dec 10 2007, 07:23 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
Look, I don't completely agree with this guy, and I'm Christian. He's coming off pretty direct for someone trying to preach the word of God, but at least I'm not bashing him. At least he's trying. You're not bashing him doesn't mean others shouldn't. He's not offending you but he is offending others. He's done a pretty good job at ignoring anyone who tries to tell him differently though, so no harm done except that people are rightly annoyed. Heck, I've been trying to get him to answer my questions but he's danced around them or completely ignored me all the same, so I'm annoyed, too. |
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Dec 11 2007, 05:21 AM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 273 Joined: Jul 2007 Member No: 547,099 |
Dude, you don't believe in the Theory of Evolution. I don't believe that it's proven. It is very probable, however, and convincing. At least I pay attention in class and I don't twist what others say, and I genuinely consider it as a possible explanation to why we are here. It's just my faith and willingness to believe in God outweighs my faith in science. Sometimes there are things that just can't be proven/explained. |
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Dec 11 2007, 11:10 AM
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I'm Jc Group: Mentor Posts: 13,619 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 437,556 |
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Dec 11 2007, 01:11 PM
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You're awful, I love you! Group: Member Posts: 366 Joined: Apr 2007 Member No: 514,546 |
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Dec 11 2007, 06:26 PM
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Transience Group: Member Posts: 39 Joined: Feb 2006 Member No: 380,725 |
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Dec 11 2007, 07:13 PM
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in the reverb chamber. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,022 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 300,308 |
It's just my faith and willingness to believe in God outweighs my faith in science. Sometimes there are things that just can't be proven/explained. What the f**k are you talking about? So, you think evolution is convincing, but you think that Christianity is just that much more convincing? And, science doesn't require that anyone have "faith" in it. It has something a lot more useful and meaningful - reason. I love you. Do you love me? Yes. |
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Dec 12 2007, 05:46 AM
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Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 273 Joined: Jul 2007 Member No: 547,099 |
"Meaningful"?
Tell me, if everything you say, feel, and do is simply a series of chemical reactions, and that you are comprised mostly of Nitrogen, Oxygen, Carbon, and Hydrogen, does life have meaning? If you put that much faith in science, why don't we all eat a bland substance which provides us with all the nutritions required for survival and growth to maximize efficiency and lower starvation? What's the point of art? Artists can be put to much more efficient uses, such as constructing buildings. And yes, science does require faith. In fact, everything requires faith. When you sit down on a chair, you put faith in the chair that it can support your weight. When you go to class, you put faith in the fact that your teacher will be there. When you leave the room, your faith in Conservation of Energy tells you that everything is still present, even though you can't sense it. That's all part of a psychological "religion" though, saying how things don't really exist and such... I can't explain it, why I believe in Christianity. It's just somehow, I know God is there. |
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Dec 12 2007, 10:04 PM
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You're awful, I love you! Group: Member Posts: 366 Joined: Apr 2007 Member No: 514,546 |
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Dec 14 2007, 08:46 PM
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I'm Jc Group: Mentor Posts: 13,619 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 437,556 |
Well yeah, but a theory is basically just a tested out hypothesis. And yeah, ily. lol. a theory in science is good enough that u can essentially just call it fact for the most part. i don't really see the point in stressing that it's just a theory. when we talk about gravity we don't say, "OH BUT YEAH, I MEAN IT'S JUST A THEORY OK, IT'S JUST A THEORY, GRAVITY IS A THEORY". we don't do that while talking about any of the other scientific theories that are just as valid as this one. so why only stress this point with evolution? that's what i never understand, let's be consistent. |
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Dec 15 2007, 01:40 AM
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tell me more. Group: Official Member Posts: 2,798 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 35,640 |
It's obvious to tell the difference between Christians and Aethists in this forum. If you don't believe in God, at least try to follow Ghandi's example. So much teen anger and angst on these forums. I can't believe the insane amount of HATE towards Christians. Let's say some guy offers you pie. But no, you hate pie. What do you do? Most of you guys would take the pie, shove it in said guy's face, and walk away, perhaps after shoving a broom up their ass. haha i pretty much agree. |
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Dec 15 2007, 11:46 AM
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I'm Jc Group: Mentor Posts: 13,619 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 437,556 |
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Dec 17 2007, 11:52 AM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
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Dec 20 2007, 04:40 PM
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tell me more. Group: Official Member Posts: 2,798 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 35,640 |
i agree with what Call911Quick said.
thats why i quoted it and said i agree. but i already posted my thoughts about this topic earlier. so if you really care you can find them. |
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Dec 20 2007, 04:43 PM
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I'm Jc Group: Mentor Posts: 13,619 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 437,556 |
i agree with what Call911Quick said. thats why i quoted it and said i agree. but i already posted my thoughts about this topic earlier. so if you really care you can find them. he said this thread had hate in it, and u agreed with him. then we asked u to show us where the hate is. yeah we can go read ur post but why would we? we weren't asking about that, we were asking u and him to show us the hate against christians that u claim is in this thread. |
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