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| *Steven* |
Oct 25 2007, 01:51 PM
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"Tung shut up" was closed. Was it hurting anyone? Did it offend Tung? Did you see him bitching and moaning about it? Maybe he reported it and if he did, what a pussy (but I presume he did not). Anyways, so what if it was pseudo spammy. So what if others thought it was stupid? People were participating, actually sticking to the topic (OMFGZOMGLOLZINORITE?) and people were having fun. Why was it closed? Spam. Who the f**k cares? Who was it hurting? Why not just leave it open?
I know this was discussed backstage and I know people were told to be more lenient. If there's not much work to do as people staff, you don't have to go looking for it. If things are running smoothly, just be a normal person. Don't moderate shit because it can be. edit: http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...192082&st=0 they're just talking about themselves! Why isn't that closed? Do you have to add in a question so that it's not considered spam? Does it have to appeal to the masses and be something everyone can participate in? |
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Oct 25 2007, 06:07 PM
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![]() i did your boyfriend ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Designer Posts: 3,335 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 4,071 |
as a general rule of thumb here, topics that have a point (i'm not saying mine did) shouldnt be closed just because people are spamming in it. you should tell them to quit spamming and leave the thread open.
i don't know why staff started to just close topics like these... also, just because an issue is "resolved" in the lounge doesnt mean it has to be closed either. people are still allowed to make comments as long as they are relevant to the thread. the only topics that need to be closed when they are resolved are help threads. arent these in the mod rules backstage? i could swear they were. because i was a mod too. i know these things because i was a mod. mod mod mod. |
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Oct 25 2007, 06:08 PM
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![]() Cornflakes :D ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,541 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 322,923 |
Alright Steven
Spencer shut the f**k up already. Your starting to show the Kryo against Suzzette frenzy >_> Trish, I agree with you. We should post in topics to tell people to control the spamming before thinking of killing the thread. |
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| *Steven* |
Oct 25 2007, 06:09 PM
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Nah, Sandra's just dumb it seems. She can be alright sometimes, but Spencer definitely isn't following the Kryo vs Suzzette. Besides, Kryo was 100% correct in hindsight. Once we all found out the truth, no one disagreed.
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Oct 25 2007, 06:10 PM
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![]() Cornflakes :D ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,541 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 322,923 |
Yes well I'm looking back on it when Kryo made no sense at all.
Maybe I'll figure it out when I do something bizarre and everyone will look back on this and say Spencer was always right. |
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| *Steven* |
Oct 25 2007, 06:10 PM
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as a general rule of thumb here, topics that have a point (i'm not saying mine did) shouldnt be closed just because people are spamming in it. you should tell them to quit spamming and leave the thread open. i don't know why staff started to just close topics like these... also, just because an issue is "resolved" in the lounge doesnt mean it has to be closed either. people are still allowed to make comments as long as they are relevant to the thread. the only topics that need to be closed when they are resolved are help threads. arent these in the mod rules backstage? i could swear they were. because i was a mod too. i know these things because i was a mod. mod mod mod. HEY! I WAS A MOD TOO! PEOPLE SHOULD RESPECT US AMIRITE? |
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Oct 25 2007, 06:11 PM
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SPAMSTFU.
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Oct 25 2007, 06:11 PM
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Oct 25 2007, 06:11 PM
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"I get no respect!"
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| *Steven* |
Oct 25 2007, 06:11 PM
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Yes well I'm looking back on it when Kryo made no sense at all. Maybe I'll figure it out when I do something bizarre and everyone will look back on this and say Spencer was always right. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Spencer's not personally going after you. You happened to enter the argument on an opposing side, and he clearly disagrees with you. Sandra's just plain clueless and should be demoted or step down at least. |
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Oct 25 2007, 06:12 PM
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![]() Cornflakes :D ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,541 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 322,923 |
Moderator guidelines:
QUOTE spam is something intentional and harmful to the community. Steven, oh I was starting to get the vibe he was getting anti-mod on me. |
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Oct 25 2007, 06:13 PM
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| *Steven* |
Oct 25 2007, 06:13 PM
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Harmful
Holly it's not that you should stay out of it, rather don't take things as someone jumping on an anti mod bandwagon. Keep in mind, we did step down for a reason, and Suzzette wasn't the only black sheep (no pun intended, but lol). |
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Oct 25 2007, 06:13 PM
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ok lets try to focus here, i dont think anyone is blaming holly for anything so i dont see why we should resort to any name calling or making this personal.
i agree about sandra though. i gave her another chance to fix her inactivity, but i DID mention that even when she is active, her actions are somewhat... questionable as a mod. she doesnt seem to know what she's doing half the time. |
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Oct 25 2007, 06:15 PM
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![]() Cornflakes :D ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,541 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 322,923 |
Oh I only posted the mod guideline thing because Trish said aren't there mod rules, so I quoted that. It was actually funny reading because I never viewed spamming as harmful
Oh there is this that everyone loves QUOTE id rather prefer you being lenient than overly strict.
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Oct 25 2007, 06:16 PM
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rofl@stevens sig.
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| *Steven* |
Oct 25 2007, 06:16 PM
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Well I think a lot of rules are outdated and could use revision. Also just because it says it in the rules, doesn't mean they have to be followed to the dot. Aren't the "guidelines" which would imply that it's something to guide your actions, not decide them?
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Oct 25 2007, 06:17 PM
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Tung shut the fuck up. You really shouldn't try to jump into these argument, you always have such horrible retorts. Look. I'm neutral in this. I've already agreed last week when I called out Sandra for being a bad mod, and that opinion still stays, until she improves. As for Spencer, he is blowing a small problem into a big one unnecessarily. |
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Oct 25 2007, 06:18 PM
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BBL
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| *Steven* |
Oct 25 2007, 06:18 PM
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Look. I'm neutral in this. I've already agreed last week when I called out Sandra for being a bad mod, and that opinion still stays, until she improves. As for Spencer, he is blowing a small problem into a big one unnecessarily. No he isn't. This isn't just because of that one thread telling you to shut up. This is about a lot of mod behavior in general. |
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Oct 25 2007, 06:19 PM
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No, not blowing it up. Fact is, the only way to convey a point to the staff is to argue opposite of what they think.
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Oct 25 2007, 06:19 PM
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| *Steven* |
Oct 25 2007, 06:21 PM
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Well, the numbers used to be larger. I used to really dislike Dee, but at least she owns up and responds in a semi constructive way. I stand corrected, it's not a lot, because there aren't a lot of mods. Sandra, Mike, Rachael in particular stick out like a sore thumb. Though I guess 3 is a lot of mods now.
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Oct 25 2007, 07:09 PM
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tung, shut up!
I don't think Rachael is doing a bad job. She's been pretty active in the queue... she approved a bunch of my things. Mike, I'm not so sure about. I wonder if modding is too much of a distraction from his modeling career. |
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Oct 25 2007, 07:12 PM
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Keep in mind, we did step down for a reason, and Suzzette wasn't the only black sheep (no pun intended, but lol). LOL, I just saw that.Mike, I'm not so sure about. I wonder if modding is too much of a distraction from his modeling career. LOW BLOW! Agreed, nonetheless. |
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Oct 25 2007, 07:20 PM
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![]() Padfoot ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 1,084 Joined: Sep 2004 Member No: 50,413 |
In response to everything Holly quoted even though I didn't read it: Don't take it so literally. The Lounge shouldn't be filled with topics that are COMPLETE spam. Topics don't necessarily have to ask a question or need to have a point but as long as there's something to talk about. I think you're just nit picking.Correct me if I'm wrong, but off-topic usually means NOT ON TOPIC, MEANING SPAM. Either correct what it says or STFU, generally speaking. Oh, someone pointed out that the rules (or moderation?) should be consistent or something. You guys (Steven and Spencer) know that we're working on revising the rules. |
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