The issue of why African Americans/Blacks seem to think that the enslavement of their ancestors was so much more horrible than the enslavement of other people has come up many a time in discussions centered on race and ethnicity. So, I figured I'd just go ahead and start a discussion on the subject. Hopefully, one doesn't already exist.

So, my opinion.

I actually wrote a paper on this very subject last year for a history class I was taking at college. While I argued from an economical stand point in my paper, I think I'll go with the skin color issue here.

Every time I gain some new knowledge, my opinion seems to change, but I believe that the main reason the enslavement of Blacks is considered to be such a heinous crime and held above similar crimes is because it was based almost solely on skin color and the complete domination of an entire race thought to be some how deviant or against God in nature. I'll try to elaborate more on my stance once a discussion picks up.

You don't have to compare the Holocaust to African slavery, you can compare the entire Jewish history to it. Jewish people were enslaved everywhere they went, so take your pick. Which period was most similar?

The part with the Egyptians. They did a much better job than Brown people did. I never saw any Brown people build pyramids. If the Egyptians only made Jewish people pick cotton, they probably would have wanted to be slaves. Brown people had it easy. We didn't make them build 150+ foot tall triangles with 4 story bricks.

Seriously... For those of you browns who still think you feel the whip, you need to stop your bitchin.

Rather then tell you that the pyramids were built about 1500 years before Jewish enslavement in Egypt, I'm going to say that the last post was hilarious and in no way made me cringe every time you tried to get a laugh.

haha, thanks XD

i dont even think about slavery until i read a topic like this or im in history class talking about it. I dont give a fcuk about it now unless someone brings its up.Why is cb so gay.

Fuck you, join the bitching.

make me muahahahah

personally, i am SO sick of hearing all the bitching and moaning about it... slaves were a prepackaged product bought in africa from africans... and it's been like 160 years since the abolition movement! how long does it take to get your act together and move on? aside from a history lesson, slavery is nothing more than a crutch at this point... an excuse to get a leg up based on the color of your skin... if you all wanted to be "equal" so badly, start acting like it!!

HAha, I like you. You know how to take a joke. LMAO

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Thoughts like these are the main reason so many people, including myself sometimes, create discussions like this. To my knowledge, no one here is using slavery as a crutch. Furthermore, if they are, and are allowed to get away with it by whoever is accepting that as their excuse, then they both need their asses kicked.

There's nothing wrong with discussing a culturally, historically, etc. relevant subject. This is a discussion, not an excuse. You might as well say you're tired of hearing people talk about women's rights or abortion rights. The reason people discuss a subject so much is to try to change something they find not quite right about it. If you just want to bitch and moan about people discussing a topic you're uncomfortable with or even fed up with, then feel free to not discuss it and move on.

i'm talking about in REAL LIFE... not cyber life... and the point of posting debates such as this, is to explore other people's perspectives... i gave my perspective... thus continuing the cycle of the debate... i thought that what was it was here for... my bad

Did you guys know that African American slaves werent allowed to marry, look a white person in the eye, they were torn from families, stripped of their culture & language, raped, beaten, weren't allowed to read, and so on. Freedom for them was just the ability to not work on the plantations. Most freed slaves were still poor and discriminated against terribly. It is definitely has been the worst form of slavery in the modern age, and it is also has the most publicity because of the fact that it ended most recently and was institutionalized ever since the birth of America...supposedly the land of the "free". Slavery really isnt considered a crutch because most black people dont mention it on a daily basis. Slavery played a major role in American History, and therefore it needs to be taught along with the other events that took place in american history. The after affects of it are still existant today [racism, negative stereotypes, discrimination]. No one is complaining, its just that you have to open your eyes and face the facts.

First, I would like to apologize for taking so long to get back to you.

Ok, I'm not exactly sure why you felt the need to highlight "real life". It almost seems as if you're trying to say that discussions like these only occur on the internet, which I'm somewhat certain you did not mean to imply.

And I honestly don't feel as if you gave a perspective. To me it felt like you were voicing your frustration over the very need to talk about the issue period and therefore not moving the debate/discussion forward in any way.

more often than not, i find that "real life" conversations on the subject aren't really same as they are online... they do happen, but with less frequency and more tact... at least in my experience anyway

you may be right about the lack of perspective though... after reading some of the posts i think i just went on a ranting rampage... i have a tendency to lose sight of my original goal when agitated...

i apologize for my lack of perspective... next time i go on a tear, i'll definately stay on topic

I hope you didn't look me in the eye when you said that... if you did I'm going to make you say your name while I whip you.

YOUR NAME IS TOBY!!

*CRACK!*

I'm waiting for brownshitgar to close this thread for being rascist.

I hate black people who complain for shits about how they had ' it the worst, ' or how they're somehow justified in bitching about it.

Hah, Podomaht..i doubt you even know any black people. Most racist people (even my grandfather) are completely ignorant of others. They're just quick to judge someone and force negative stereotypes on others as a way to excuse unjustified guilt. He even said that himself. He was a klansman who didnt even understand why he was so angry & hateful..and he had guilt for the things black people suffered during his early life. Nobody really bitches about that stuff anyway. Im just glad i grew up around a diverse group of people so i have a true understanding of others.

No problem. It happens sometimes.

I definitely agree with you. Sometimes it's very hard to have an actual discussion on a subject because some people just don't know how. You have to understand that when you go into a discussion, you should prepared to be just a bit offended at least once. It's going to happen because not every one has the same views/opinions that you do and sometimes it is necessary to educate someone on something that , at least in their mind, has never had an influence on them.

Exactly.