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Don't Ask, Don't Tell, Homosexuals in the Military
1angel3
post Jul 12 2007, 09:14 PM
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^ well I disagree. Maybe I worded it the wrong way. You can look at someone and assume they're gay but that doesn't mean they're gay. Unless they come out and say they're gay, then as far as I know they're not gay.
 
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post Jul 13 2007, 04:31 PM
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^ Dude, you can look at someone and know that they are gay. FEMININE GAYS for example. We aren't saying we know all gays by their looks but we know SOME gays by their physical appearance. Man, where do you live?
 
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post Jul 13 2007, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(steve330 @ Jul 11 2007, 03:43 PM) *
yes you can


Agreed... back in highschool... heck at the beach at night, you can easily tell who's a homosexual. But! Those are the people who are flamboyant. There's homosexuals out there who don't act like the opposite sex.
 
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post Jul 13 2007, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Jul 13 2007, 01:31 PM) *
^ Dude, you can look at someone and know that they are gay. FEMININE GAYS for example. We aren't saying we know all gays by their looks but we know SOME gays by their physical appearance. Man, where do you live?


Not all feminine men are gay. I know some straight Transsexual guys. At first I thought they was gay but turns out they wasn't. I even know some feminine guys that aren't gay. Why you want to know where I live?
 
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post Jul 13 2007, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE(1angel3 @ Jul 13 2007, 09:02 PM) *
Not all feminine men are gay. I know some straight Transsexual guys. At first I thought they was gay but turns out they wasn't. I even know some feminine guys that aren't gay. Why you want to know where I live?


How can a "transexual" be straight if he/she is called transexual? ermm.gif Maybe I'm just not understanding this right.
 
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post Jul 13 2007, 09:39 PM
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^ Ok maybe I worded it the wrong way. What do you call those guys that wear women clothes again? I guess cross dressers.
 
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post Jul 13 2007, 09:55 PM
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Yea, crossdressers.
 
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post Jul 13 2007, 10:10 PM
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Yeah.. like people who care that much about their appearance are going to be in the military. rolleyes.gif
 
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post Jul 13 2007, 10:14 PM
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^ why not?
 
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post Jul 13 2007, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(1angel3 @ Jul 13 2007, 10:14 PM) *
^ why not?


blink.gif We're talking about the military here. Where men go for weeks without running water and seal crawl through mud, shoot automatic guns and continue running even when blood is caked on their skin. They discourage uniqueness. Your hair must be shaved. You have to look and act as uniform as possible.

Do you really think that a drag queen or a transexual, someone who has paid hundreds if not thousands of dollars for their transformation, is going to join the military and have all that taken away from them?

I don't think so.
 
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post Jul 13 2007, 10:37 PM
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We should send all the gays to Iraq on street patrols.
 
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post Jul 13 2007, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(xKatt @ Jul 13 2007, 07:21 PM) *
blink.gif We're talking about the military here. Where men go for weeks without running water and seal crawl through mud, shoot automatic guns and continue running even when blood is caked on their skin. They discourage uniqueness. Your hair must be shaved. You have to look and act as uniform as possible.

Do you really think that a drag queen or a transexual, someone who has paid hundreds if not thousands of dollars for their transformation, is going to join the military and have all that taken away from them?

I don't think so.


Maybe not a tranny but a cross dresser. How you know if a tranny or cross dresser wouldn't join the military? Have you ever ask one? I haven't but it would be interesting. Some may not but this world is big, you can find one.
 
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 13 2007, 10:37 PM) *
We should send all the gays to Iraq on street patrols.


I saw this one video where this Hummer was patrolling in Iraq and in order to stop from becoming a sitting target he had to bump all the cars in front of him, including buses and big vehicles. It was pretty funny, he just kept bumping them til they got out of his way.
 
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post Jul 14 2007, 12:22 AM
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QUOTE(1angel3 @ Jul 13 2007, 10:52 PM) *
Maybe not a tranny but a cross dresser. How you know if a tranny or cross dresser wouldn't join the military? Have you ever ask one? I haven't but it would be interesting. Some may not but this world is big, you can find one.


Ok, what if I did find a cross-dresser that wanted to join the military. What's your point then? blink.gif
 
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post Jul 14 2007, 03:01 AM
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Angel3, I agree not all feminine guys are gay but please tell me that you're not that naive. You can't assume that everyone is straight until proven otherwise. It is POSSIBLE to know if someone's gay, it's a matter of opening your eyes, nothing more.
 
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post Jul 14 2007, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Jul 14 2007, 04:01 AM) *
Angel3, I agree not all feminine guys are gay but please tell me that you're not that naive. You can't assume that everyone is straight until proven otherwise. It is POSSIBLE to know if someone's gay, it's a matter of opening your eyes, nothing more.



Show me a feminine man that isn't bisexual nor homosexual. Then I'll believe you. Unless you're speaking of metrosexuals?

Metrosexuality in my opinion is homo curiosity.
 
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post Jul 14 2007, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 14 2007, 05:00 PM) *
Metrosexuality in my opinion is homo curiosity.


Or wanting to look good.
 
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post Jul 14 2007, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE(steve330 @ Jul 14 2007, 06:01 PM) *
Or wanting to look good.



Or doing feminine things like tanning in a tanning bed (when you have the beach), getting manicures, pedicures, wearing make up, doing your eye brows, adding fake eyelashes to make your eyes stand out lol, shaving your legs/arms LMAO.

Heck I remember in highschool when metrosexuality was the big thing, a few of my friends got into it.. and for some odd reason, they stopped playing football with us. They didn't mind gettin a bloody lip, or cuts/bruises from a good game of football. But they just stop playing, they didn't move, they didn't find anything else better to do... they just never gave us an answer.
 
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*shrug* I guess it depends on what level of metro sexuality they are. Most metrosexuals I know don't put on fake lashes, shave their legs, etc etc.
 
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post Jul 14 2007, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(steve330 @ Jul 14 2007, 06:10 PM) *
*shrug* I guess it depends on what level of metro sexuality they are. Most metrosexuals I know don't put on fake lashes, shave their legs, etc etc.



True.

I went to a preppy school... so it was pretty extreme there.
 
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post Jul 14 2007, 05:20 PM
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Show me a feminine man that isn't bisexual nor homosexual. Then I'll believe you. Unless you're speaking of metrosexuals?

Metrosexuality in my opinion is homo curiosity.

There are people whom you call Fashion Victims, they dress extremely well, take care of their nails and hair and EVERYTHING. It's à la mode in my city and they are straight.

Metrosexual doesn't necessarily mean homo curiosity. Like Steve said; wanting to look good. Taking care of your appearance.
 
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post Jul 14 2007, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Jul 14 2007, 06:20 PM) *
There are people whom you call Fashion Victims, they dress extremely well, take care of their nails and hair and EVERYTHING. It's à la mode in my city and they are straight.

Metrosexual doesn't necessarily mean homo curiosity. Like Steve said; wanting to look good. Taking care of your appearance.


Yeah but doing your eyebrows? And shaving hair off your body? I understand if maybe your a swimmer.. or bodybuilder who does competitions (who use spray on tan as well)

I take care of appearance, pick good clothes that fit correctly, and that match properly. I also get my hair cuts so that my hair is nice and short. I take care of my skin... though that's one thing I guess you can say is metrosexual about me, cuz I do use lotion before I go to bed.

But whatever, I don't think I've seen a feminine-like guy (other than metrosexuals) that are heterosexual.

And when I say feminine-like I'm also including their voice/tone... unless we're not adding that into the category of feminine men.
 
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post Jul 15 2007, 12:20 AM
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I do my boyfriend's eyebrows so he doesn't have giant caterpillar ones. _smile.gif I'm...pretty sure he's not gay.
 
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post Jul 15 2007, 01:46 AM
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Yeah but doing your eyebrows? And shaving hair off your body? I understand if maybe your a swimmer.. or bodybuilder who does competitions (who use spray on tan as well)

I take care of appearance, pick good clothes that fit correctly, and that match properly. I also get my hair cuts so that my hair is nice and short. I take care of my skin... though that's one thing I guess you can say is metrosexual about me, cuz I do use lotion before I go to bed.

But whatever, I don't think I've seen a feminine-like guy (other than metrosexuals) that are heterosexual.

And when I say feminine-like I'm also including their voice/tone... unless we're not adding that into the category of feminine men.

Metrosexuals aren't necessarily feminine. Women aren't the only one whom are supposed to take care of themselves. Doing your eyebrow doesn't make you gay nor transexual nor bisexual.
 
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post Jul 18 2007, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(magicfann @ Jun 9 2007, 02:03 PM) *
gay people are proven to be less effective fighters

that might be true on a general basis, but if someone enrolls, trains and is accepted into the military, then they are obviously going to be effective. No matter what their orientation. Not all gay men act like girls, believe it or not.mellow.gif
 

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