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Best Movies Ever Made, In My Opinion At Least
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post Jun 3 2007, 06:03 PM
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I'd have to disagree with the martial arts movie category...
I think Jet Li's Fearless captures not only the action, but the true motivation and spirit of martial arts. Also, the fact that it is based off of a true story lends more positive feedback to its case.
 
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post Jun 3 2007, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE(hi-C @ Jun 3 2007, 03:39 PM) *
Gladiator? GLADIATOR? Give me a break, it was so historically inaccurate that it shouldn't be in that "historical" category.

god, Ive heard so much crap about my Gladiator choice(actually only two people, haha). Alright, I when I said historical, I didnt mean historically accurate. I just meant that it's a movie thats based in a "historical" setting. Whatever, if it really chaps your ass that bad, I'll put it under a different category of:
  • Historically Inaccurate: Gladiator(see above comment)
  • Historically Accurate: How the hell should I know, these movies are always so f**kin boring. haha. See why I picked Gladiator. If I had to choose one, I guess I'd go with that over-dramatized cry movie Schindlers List. Then again there are so many of these that I could have said just about any of them and still been right. Sure the past sucks, but I honestly don't care about stuff that happened 80 years ago because the world has changed since then. The Holocaust was horrible, I would never say anything to the opposite, but does it really help to keep going back to those times? I go to the movies to be entertained, not feel horrified about the atrocities of dead people. Be f**kin happy I didn't pick Troy, now that was bad.
QUOTE(digitalfragrance @ Jun 3 2007, 06:03 PM) *
I'd have to disagree with the martial arts movie category...
I think Jet Li's Fearless captures not only the action, but the true motivation and spirit of martial arts. Also, the fact that it is based off of a true story lends more positive feedback to its case.

I'm not gonna disagree that Fearless was a great movie, it was. The reason I wouldn't list this is because I found it very easy to see the frame skips in order to make Jet Li look faster. Jet Li is great, especially his old school Martial Arts movies, but unfortunately he is getting older and if it wasnt for his benefit then it was for the benefit of whoever he was fighting. The most obvious examples of the frame skips were during the fight with the one master that ended in his death and lead to the son getting vengeance on Jet Li's family. Good movie, but not that good.
 
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post Jun 3 2007, 07:53 PM
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i saw this french movie at school...it was called "au revoir les enfants"...it was good (with subtitles of course)
 
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post Jun 6 2007, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE(The Abominable C-Pillar @ Jun 1 2007, 03:23 PM) *
haha, thanks for your pointless and misguided opinion. I am so sorry I didn't put cinema greats like Catwoman and Battlefield Earth, I'm sure you would have preferred that.


I don't think you know me. _unsure.gif

QUOTE(The Abominable C-Pillar @ Jun 1 2007, 03:23 PM) *
And in my defense, I did say that there are hundreds of posts already like this, it's hard to make an original post when there's only one topic moron.


I love posts like this. I have no guff with the fact that you made a topic which happened to be rather common. In fact, I would encourage that in this case. You missed the point, apparently.

My gripe is with your list, specifically. Your list is boring, tired, and unoriginal. A good number of the movies you listed consistently show up on internet top 10 lists: people love them. It doesn't take any passion, actual interest, or personality to slap The Godfather on the top of your favorite movies list. Monkeys and morons do it every day. Nothing special. The Godfather probably wouldn't even make it's way into a Top 100 list of mine. Sure, it's a good movie - maybe even great (no where near as great as The Godfather 2). But, to include it as one of the best is to show how painfully ignorant you truly are of cinema, or, at the worst, how contemptibly boring and uninspired your taste in film is.

Frankly, your list sucks. It's a carbon copy of 5,000,000 other lists, and I couldn't care less for it.

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And the last time I checked, Gladiator kicked the f**kin shit out that retarded black and white borefest known as Blair Witch Project, biggest waste of 5 grand ever. It was a genius move having their friends hit the side of the tent, I actually started laughing.


Gladiator kicked the shit out of nothing. Marcus Aurelius would have abandoned the philosophy of stoicism just so he could vomit in disgust at that technical disgrace and murder people in hatred of that contrived mess. I don't think I have ever rolled my eyes so much - In slow motion!

Further, The Blair Witch Project is a crowning masterpiece of modern horror cinema. For someone who seemed to despise the "gore" and "shock value" horror films of today's theaters, you sure don't have much of an enlightened attention span. Shallow much? God forbid a film requires the resurrection of imagination, and actually studies human behavior. Slow burning just a bit too slow for you? Black and white? I guess it makes sense that you would have a problem with that: Did you even have a single film before 1970 on your list? The genius is in the realization that what you don't see is far more terrifying than what you do. The genius is there - and I laughed too, in fact, I still laugh, and that's what makes the movie so fantastic. hilarious, haunting, and hopeless.

In the very least, The Blair Witch Project never insulted its audience's intelligence. It never murdered our imagination. If you're excited about Ridley Scott talking down to you, maybe you should start watching Battlefield Earth and Catwoman - they seem fitting to your taste.
 
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post Jun 6 2007, 02:18 PM
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^ hug.gif That was pretty entertaining to read.

I'm adding to my list:
-Braveheart
-King Arthur
-Armageddon

I have yet to see The patriot though. Which is kind of sad, I know.
 
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Monty Python
Original Star Wars trilogy
PULP FICTION
more later.
 
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post Jun 6 2007, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Jun 6 2007, 01:52 PM) *
My gripe is with your list, specifically. Your list is boring, tired, and unoriginal. A good number of the movies you listed consistently show up on internet top 10 lists: people love them. It doesn't take any passion, actual interest, or personality to slap The Godfather on the top of your favorite movies list. Monkeys and morons do it every day. Nothing special. The Godfather probably wouldn't even make it's way into a Top 100 list of mine. Sure, it's a good movie - maybe even great (no where near as great as The Godfather 2). But, to include it as one of the best is to show how painfully ignorant you truly are of cinema, or, at the worst, how contemptibly boring and uninspired your taste in film is.

Haha. Very entertaining and intelligible, but still misguided. Hmm, I wonder had I worded the title of the topic differently if you still would have disagree so feverishly. I should have posted it as The Most Entertaining Movies Ever Made: In My Opinion at Least. That might clear up a few things for you. Now, onto my rebuttal:

I never said that The Godfather was my favorite movie of all time, just the best in the genre of Mafia movies. The fact that it was at the top of the list has no relevance whatsoever to how much I enjoy the movie, just that I was listing off movies as they came to me. If anything, I'd say The Fountain is my favorite movie right now, and it does change frequently as the years progress. To disagree that The Godfather is a great movie simply because everyone else thinks so is pure ignorance. There is a reason why so many people like this movie(and most of the other movies I've listed that you so eloquently described "Monkeys and morons" choose on a daily basis), and seeing how at the time it was a low-budget movie I am quite suprised at your contempt when lined up against your choice of favorites. The fact that you chose The Blair Witch project as your favorite movie(I'm guessing from your sig) is quite laughable. True, it was highly successful to the elitist crowd and sort of thought-provoking the first time you watch it. After a second viewing you realize it's just three dumb people in the woods with their parent's video camera. Since when did theatres begin showing excerpts from America's Funniest Home Videos? "I'm so scared right now..." Yeah, so was the studio.
I will agree that The Godfather 2 is a great sequel(infinantly better than that godawful Book of Shadows crap the studios tried to cash in on, that was just horrendous), possibly the best sequel to any movie, but pales slightly in comparison to the original. Francis Ford Coppola took a great book and made an even better movie which rarely happens. Mario Puzo never wanted Fredo killed, in a real sicilian family that would almost never happen.
The fact that I have to explain my goddamn Gladiator choice yet again makes it painfully obvious that you failed to actually read what I put, merely glanced at the names and immediately disagreed. In my opinion Ridley Scott's Gladiator is one of the most entertaining historical movies. I say historical(and pay attention now) not because it was historically accurate, but because it was set in historical times. I couldn't give a damn if Derek Jacobi took up a sword and started hacking people up at the end, if it was entertaining I'd enjoy it. Screw historical significance, who gives a shit. And for your information, if you cared to do your research, there are records that indicate there once was a Gladiator who killed a Caesar(possibly a Caesar, they are not specific on that, it may have been a Senator). Obviously not for the reasons given in the movie, you'd have to be an idiot to believe a single word of that. But it's entertaining nonetheless. As for not putting anything before 1970 on my list, no shit. Those movies are boring as hell. Sure they were awe-inspiring 60 years ago, but now they are out-dated.

P.S. I guess I should apologize that I don't spend all my time in front of the tv-screen watching every movie ever made, but I do have a life outside of movies. I rarely even go on CB, I have 216 posts and Ive been here since January.
 
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post Jun 6 2007, 03:02 PM
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post Jun 6 2007, 03:15 PM
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Hmm what is he going to say now xD

I think Jeremy brings up a really good point actually.

^I heard that movie sucked pinch.gif

Anyway my favorite movie would have to be Howl's Moving Castle or Little Miss Sunshine for the time being, it changes of course. Also out of your list Jeremy I haven't seen almost all of those movies. The incredible's I do have to admit was a really good movie from pixar. Oh and I've seen A goofy movie almost every year and I can't help but watch it.
 
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post Jun 6 2007, 03:28 PM
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mine would be
* Mafia: Godfather
* Science Fiction: Matrix
* Horror: Saw 1
* Action: Terminator 2
* Historical: Schindler's List
* Gangsta Movies: Cradle 2 the Grave
* Fantasy: Lord of the Rings
* Comedy: Team America
* Animated: Toy Story
 
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post Jun 6 2007, 04:44 PM
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simple as that
 
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post Jun 7 2007, 12:17 PM
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^Which one? The first one that sucked, the second one that sucked, or the third one that really f**kin sucked?
 
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post Jun 7 2007, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE(The Abominable C-Pillar @ Jun 7 2007, 01:17 PM) *
^Which one? The first one that sucked, the second one that sucked, or the third one that really f**kin sucked?

So what you're trying to say is that they sucked?
 
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post Jun 7 2007, 12:26 PM
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* Gangsta Movies: Cradle 2 the Grave
Cradle 2 the Grave threw me off when DMX started walking on walls and etc.
 
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post Jun 7 2007, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(superstitious @ Jun 7 2007, 12:26 PM) *
So what you're trying to say is that they sucked?

Not at all, I thought they were great. thumbsup.gif

Just kidding, they were awful. At least the third one was and the second was pretty bad too. The first one is okay, nothing special. Not as good as Wayne's World.
 
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post Jun 7 2007, 03:21 PM
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I think that Titantic, Pirates Of The Carabbean, Peter Pan and Alice In Wonderland are some of the best movies ever made.
 
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post Jun 8 2007, 06:24 AM
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QUOTE(loveylovely @ Jun 3 2007, 04:46 PM) *
Armageddon
The Patriot
Bicentennial Man
The Breakfast Club
Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory
Monty Python and the Holy Grail

Yeah, basically what everyone else said, I agree. thumbsup.gif



HAHA WILLY WONKA! biggrin.gif I completely forgot about that movie! I love it, though. The Breakfast Club and the Patriot are good movies, too.

OMG WAYNE'S WORLD! my favorite part is when they're in the car and bohemian rhapsody comes on
 
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post Jun 8 2007, 07:18 AM
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My list would probably be:

- Pride & Prejudice (modern)
- Little Miss Sunshine
- Amelie
- Goodbye, Lenin!
- Glory
 
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post Jun 8 2007, 09:11 AM
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I'm curious about something. Are most of you just posting your favorite films? Or are you at least making an attempt to use a little objectivity in selecting the "Best Movies Ever Made." I mean, I know that it's subjective objectivity, since opinions differ but honestly? It looks like most of you are just posting films you like, not necessarily films you respect, if that makes any sense.

I could be completely missing the point here (wouldn't be the first and most certainly will not be the last).

For example, I wouldn't watch Metropolis all that often and may not even consider the film a favorite of mine. I would, however, easily put this in a "Best Movie Ever Made" classification. In contrast to this, I consider The Two Towers one of my favorite films to watch, but wouldn't put in in a "Best Movie Ever Made" type classification. One I would watch many times with much enjoyment, the other I would watch periodically.

PS - I'm not judging or anything, just curious about the perspective(s) used when making such lists.
 
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post Jun 8 2007, 01:08 PM
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^ Yeah, I addressed that before. I wish I could go back and rename the topic Most Entertaining Movies Ever Made. It was about 1:30 in the morning when I created this post. Though many of the films I listed originally I would still classify as the best ever made in the genre, some of them are just personal favorites.
 
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^ I'm really referring to movie selections such as:

Titanic
Willy Wonka
The Breakfast Club
Pride & Prejudice
Pirates Of The Carabbean

and such.

Again, I'm not saying that these are bad movies or that they aren't entertaining. I love Willy Wonka (as I love just about anything Gene Wilder). I'm just as much of a fun going popcorn chewing movie hopper as just about anyone else is.

I'm also an avid fan of anything Mel Brooks is a part of. (Yes, even Men in Tights) But I wouldn't include them in a 'greatest movie ever' ensemble.
 
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QUOTE(The Abominable C-Pillar @ Jun 6 2007, 03:01 PM) *
Haha. Very entertaining and intelligible, but still misguided. Hmm, I wonder had I worded the title of the topic differently if you still would have disagree so feverishly. I should have posted it as The Most Entertaining Movies Ever Made: In My Opinion at Least. That might clear up a few things for you. Now, onto my rebuttal:


Yeah, I'm misguided because you're a master of misnomers. huh.gif
Oh, and, no. Changing the title wouldn't have helped so much. Certainly your post would have been less offensive given the omission of that "best movie ever made" business, but it's still rather sorry to call Gladiator enjoyable, nonetheless one of the most enjoyable films ever made. I hate your list either way.

QUOTE(The Abominable C-Pillar @ Jun 6 2007, 03:01 PM) *
To disagree that The Godfather is a great movie simply because everyone else thinks so is pure ignorance. There is a reason why so many people like this movie(and most of the other movies I've listed that you so eloquently described "Monkeys and morons" choose on a daily basis)


I don't wholly disagree that The Godfather might indeed be a great movie. I openly confessed such a position. But, great or not, this is not to say that I would not disagree in its inclusion in a "Greatest Movies Ever Made" list. Because, I would disagree with such an inclusion - there are much greater films. The reason that I feel you put the film in your list in the first place is because of its immense popularity. I was not arguing that its popularity causes it some sort of defect, not in the least. I was merely pointing out that its position as "The Greatest Movie Ever Made" (or at least one of them) is shortsighted and ignorant - a position only so repeated due to its popularity and the persistent ignorance of those "monkeys and morons."

QUOTE(The Abominable C-Pillar @ Jun 6 2007, 03:01 PM) *
, and seeing how at the time it was a low-budget movie I am quite suprised at your contempt when lined up against your choice of favorites.


What an arbitrary point. I contrasted your taste in smart horror and now, somehow (since I like the Blair Witch Project?) you're going to somehow assume I prefer (for some inane reason) that my movies be made on a minimalist budget? I like movies because of content - a budget is merely a budget. Further, your premise does not even stand up; The Godfather wasn't a low-budget production. "Low-budget" for an enormous studio like Paramount Pictures, maybe. But, The Godfather had a production budget that was well enough above the average 1970's film; definitely not low budget.

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The fact that you chose The Blair Witch project as your favorite movie(I'm guessing from your sig) is quite laughable. True, it was highly successful to the elitist crowd and sort of thought-provoking the first time you watch it. After a second viewing you realize it's just three dumb people in the woods with their parent's video camera. Since when did theatres begin showing excerpts from America's Funniest Home Videos? "I'm so scared right now..." Yeah, so was the studio.


(1) I chose no film whatsoever, let alone as my favorite. [But, your skills of extrapolation are impeccable. I promise.]
(2) Thought-provoking? Maybe. Successful to elitist crowds? Eh? The movie was an immense box office success for a good number of reasons [one of which happened to be its near zero-budget], but the film does not happen to have any particular critical success - neither in the cases of "elitist crowds" or the general public.
(3) You're suppose to realize that after the second viewing? Given the dozens and dozens of times I've seen The Blair Witch Project - something must be wrong with me?
(4) America's Funniest Home Videos? Since it was infinitely entertaining [I thought that's what this was about?] and enlightening.
(5) The studio was scared? What studio? The hell are you talking about?

QUOTE(The Abominable C-Pillar @ Jun 6 2007, 03:01 PM) *
The fact that I have to explain my goddamn Gladiator choice yet again makes it painfully obvious that you failed to actually read what I put, merely glanced at the names and immediately disagreed. In my opinion Ridley Scott's Gladiator is one of the most entertaining historical movies. I say historical(and pay attention now) not because it was historically accurate, but because it was set in historical times. I couldn't give a damn if Derek Jacobi took up a sword and started hacking people up at the end, if it was entertaining I'd enjoy it. Screw historical significance, who gives a shit. And for your information, if you cared to do your research, there are records that indicate there once was a Gladiator who killed a Caesar(possibly a Caesar, they are not specific on that, it may have been a Senator). Obviously not for the reasons given in the movie, you'd have to be an idiot to believe a single word of that.


You really don't understand. The historical significance argument is generally quite arbitrary. And, since you haven't noticed, I'll spell it out for you: I'm not making that argument. I don't care if Gladiator is historically accurate or not (obviously it's not, but how cares?). What I care about is the actual on-screen drama and the content of the film - the artistry. I dislike the film because it has an uninteresting story, with flat characters, and ridiculous plot lines. Technically, the film looks like vomit: it's so full of slow motion and hyper cuts that I'm not sure that the movie isn't a giant commercial or possibly an MTV styled music video. It's just a terrible movie. Has nothing to do with historical accuracy - so there really is no need for research in this matter.

QUOTE(The Abominable C-Pillar @ Jun 6 2007, 03:01 PM) *
As for not putting anything before 1970 on my list, no shit. Those movies are boring as hell. Sure they were awe-inspiring 60 years ago, but now they are out-dated.


You're an idiot. Storytelling is timeless. The living vibrant cinematography of today was establish in America in the early 1940's. Literature breathes centuries and centuries past. Paintings still haunt and affect peoples generations and generations apart. Film is a medium of art which has evolved, just as any art, but those earlier pieces of art are in no way dispensable - many are greater than a grand majority of today's world cinema. Granted the evolution of film has been rather unique, but you are doing a great disservice to yourself in ignoring film that is merely 30 or 40 years old.
 
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I'm also an avid fan of anything Mel Brooks is a part of. (Yes, even Men in Tights) But I wouldn't include them in a 'greatest movie ever' ensemble.
Yo, Men in Tights is an awesome movie.
 
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Titanic
Dreamgirls
Armegedon
Selena
Blood Diamond
The Wood
The Pursuit of Happyness
Best Man
 

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