Sexual equality is ridiculous, Paychecks. |
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Sexual equality is ridiculous, Paychecks. |
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So there's been an issue with men being paid more than women when it comes to jobs.
Say a girl and a boy around the same age worked at the same store (and were paid equally). Now say they went on a date. Chances are, the girl wouldn't spend a dime and the boy would be spending all of his hard-earned money. The girl would only end up spending her paycheck on herself. The point? Men have more needs for money than women do. Men fundamentally have a need to spend more money than women do. Generally, men are paid more than women for the same jobs because, well, men have more demands for money than women do. Men want paying jobs. Women want glamorous jobs. Women never seem to demand that half of sewage workers or half of window cleaners are female. And I'm just going to put it out there now, I don't follow any of the above, but I'm willing to debate with you anyway. |
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Men always paying for everything on dates is a little old fashioned. More and more people these days split things. What about single mothers? Are they just sol, since they're female? you can easily argue single fathers with that one. But you know, I am a girl and I still agree with paying men more. Isn't it a man's pride to be able to show he is financially capable? Or am I really just old fashioned? (haha @ me being old fashioned). And it is true that men DO take up more jobs that get their hands dirty..I don't mean as in murders or hit-man jobs (gosh!). I mean things like Archie mentioned... jobs in sewers, construction, etc etc. Call that stereotyping if you like but I've never seen a woman take up those jobs! |
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I don't know what dates you've been going on, but really, hardly anyone does that anymore. I've been on many dates, but I've NEVER had the guy pay the bill. Even when he has a lot more money than me. And what about lesbian relationships? There's no guy to pay for their dates. No, they don't. This point is overused in this forum, but I bring it up anyways. What about single mothers? They have FAR more needs for money than guys do. Women have to pay for everything that a guy has to pay for and more. I doubt you could find a single thing that men have to pay for that women don't. (or at least don't have a female equivalent that they have to pay for.) Uh huh. Right. "traditionally" meaning maybe 30 years ago. I don't know about prissy little Carmel where everyone's so filthy rich that people don't have to work, but where I live, hardly anyone follows that stereotype. In my lifetime, I have known maybe... 5? mothers who do that. Most women work. Most women work harder than men do. Most women are far more productive than men. Quit f**king living in the 20's or some shit like that and see that the world is changing. Women everywhere are proving that they can do anything a man can do and usually can do it better. You're right. Male =/= Female. Female > Male. end of story. That one really made me laugh. Seriously. I almost pissed myself I was laughing so hard. Please tell me you were joking. You're right. Generally, men are physically stronger than women. but Generally, women are smarter. Generally, women are funnier. Generally, women are more artistic. Generally, women work harder. Generally, women are more productive. Generally, women are more emotionally intelligent. Generally, men are more egotistical. Generally, men are more violent. Generally, men are lazy bastards. Lets say apples sell for $4, oranges for $3.25, bananas for $4.25, and grapes for $4.75. Now lets say that Men are represented by Store A and Women are represented by Store B Store A has 100 grapes. Store B only has 50 grapes. Thus Store A feels superior. After all, grapes are the most valuable fruit, and Store A has the most grapes. But Store B also has 50 apples, 50 oranges, and 50 bananas. Assuming both stores sell all their fruit, Store B will make over 1.7 times as much as Store A. And that's not even taking into consideration that if given the choice, someone would much rather buy their fruit from Store B, seeing as it sells a much wider variety. And besides, Store A has a lot of rotten grapes mixed in... Who the f**k are you calling a "silly girl" don't you f**king dare try to talk condescending to me. I hope you get your balls ripped off you f**king piece of shit. Yeah, I'm sexist. but you know what, I have a f**king right to be cuz guys are f**king assholes. No, I don't think they should all wear retard hats I think they should f**king die. Mabye leave a few of them for breeding purposes only, but keep those ones lokced up away from us. Guys are f**king ,assholes. All of them. They're f**king murdererers and rapists and twisted, violent abusive pieces of shit perverts. There isn't a single one of them that isn't at least a horny bastard. f**king killl them all and this world'll be a bettter place for a bit... then we'd all die off though... which is why we should keep a few of them around for breeding/pleasure for a few of those crazy ass straight chicks. something is f**king wrong with them. I don't see how anyone could find a guy attractive. they're all f**king disgusting. I'd kill 'em all myself, but I think I'm a little too drunk right nwo to be doin that. haha. Sounds like someone's sexually frustrated. |
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Who the f**k are you calling a "silly girl" don't you f**king dare try to talk condescending to me. I hope you get your balls ripped off you f**king piece of shit. I got scared for a minute. I thought I accidentally killed the thread. Good thing I didn't, I was enjoying the conflict. I referred to you in a condescending manner because I see you as an inferior to myself, and also an inferior to the rest of the posters of this topic. I'll 'talk condescending' to whomever I like, because this is the internet. Besides, feminism died in the 90's. Your cause went from an equality race to a cult of those too fearful of facing the 'evil penises of death' or getting 'almost raped' (the shorter term you feminists created for 'being in the vicinity of a member of the opposite sex') to grow backbones and become productive members of society. I disregard you completely, along with your hate-mongering regression of a philosophy. My point stands. |
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so the entire argument here is that men should be payed more because they do "harder" jobs? sure...they do constuction work and the like, but so do some women. women are usually smarter than men, therefore being more valuble to the industry buisness. have you ever known a male book-keeper? without women, there would be no population. of course, the same applies for men, but women are the most important when it comes to sexual roles. everyone is pretty much going around in circles and stating the same things more than once so this is pretty much pointless as of now.
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I got scared for a minute. I thought I accidentally killed the thread. Good thing I didn't, I was enjoying the conflict. I referred to you in a condescending manner because I see you as an inferior to myself, and also an inferior to the rest of the posters of this topic. I'll 'talk condescending' to whomever I like, because this is the internet. Go f**k yourself up the ass with a gigantic vibrating dildo you little piece of shit. |
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The only way you can phase me, ursedonah, is by bringing up a valid point supporting your conclusions. Creative threats involving dildos don't exactly fill that role.
Hazardous, your point about women 'usually' being smarter than men is completely unsupported by any information. There is no historical study, no scientific journal or experiment, that has touched on the conclusion that one gender is naturally smarter than the other. Your statement is completely unbacked by any information other than opinion and rumors about women, and you seem to be continuing the circle you mentioned in your reply. Additionally, I've heard of a male book-keeper. He's a guy that likes books. I didn't know that liking books was a girl thing. And even further, men are just as essential to the reproductive process as women are. Argue as much as you like about how women are the ones who actually carry the baby for nine months, but without the man, (even a neglecting, conceited, irresponsible teenager) the baby would not be created at all. Their roles in the process are essentially equal. Further still, your statement about women being more important in sexual roles is the most ridiculous thing I've heard today. Is there any need for me to even argue against it? I love arguing against both sides of the argument. |
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As to the topic. Yes women are smarts, I won't debate that. Men take the higher up jobs, and take big responsibility jobs, and because of that have to do more work and suffer through more stress. Women may have lesser jobs and make less money, but that serves as a social crutch and often times I see that fully taken advantage of. As to the person whose going nuts over killing men etc, maybe you just aren't one of the smart women who see things the way they are and know when to just take things as they are and realize that it will stay that way for a long time.
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since we're saying that men and women have different positive/negative qualities, then women should get paid more as nurses, and men should get paid more as engineers, no?
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What about the male nurses or doctors, and what about female engineers?
And about steve330's comment, men do not take up better jobs due to their higher tolerance for stress. There is no stress-tolerance gap between the genders. The only reason why men still get some of the better jobs is because women only started working in prominent positions in the past century, and the world is still somewhat adjusting. |
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I Never said men took them up because they had higher tolerance. I said they do that because women don't want those jobs as much. Women would much rather be working a little bit lower and not have to deal with all the bureaucratic bullshit and still make a fine sum of money while having a great deal of influence.
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i was being somewhat sarcastic and was referring mostly to kryo's comment.
besides, if we're gonna address the issue of paying women the same amount as men for doing the same jobs, why not address the reverse issue? paying women more working jobs that are generally "better fitted" for them would balance out the fact that men get paid more for working jobs that they're supposedly "better" at. |
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I Never said men took them up because they had higher tolerance. I said they do that because women don't want those jobs as much. Women would much rather be working a little bit lower and not have to deal with all the bureaucratic bullshit and still make a fine sum of money while having a great deal of influence. Ahh, now now, you're making generalizations. 1. Generally, women are smarter. 2. Generally, women are funnier. 3. Generally, women are more artistic. 4. Generally, women work harder. 5. Generally, women are more productive. 6. Generally, women are more emotionally intelligent. 7. Generally, men are more egotistical. 8. Generally, men are more violent. 9. Generally, men are lazy bastards. 1. My high school valedictorian was male. 2. Did you just pull this out of your ass? ![]() 3. Let's not bring up art in this. Art is not defined a specific way, so that makes this claim useless. 4. Where did you gain this conclusion? 5. Same as #4 6. Maybe SOME women SHOW it more, but men have the same potential emotional intelligence. 7. I've come across a lot of egotistical chicks in the 19 years I've been alive. 8. Women can be violent too. I witnessed a girl throw another girl into a trashcan and her head was bleeding a lot. That was pretty violent, if you ask me. Have you read "A Child Called It"? I rest my case. 9. You know, if men are such lazy b-tards (no relation to 4chan), then they would be home all day and not even work at all. I mean, there's probably some men like that, but there's women like that too. |
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the only women that i openly hate are those who think they are somehow superior to you because of who they hang out with, their physical appearance, and their relentless notion that you do not exist. but i hate any man who does the same just as equally. i would punch women in the face just as quikly as any man if it was legal, all this bs about being overly considerate to women shoulda gone out the window with the feminist movement (for any women who are genuine about it). my sister came in my room the other day and started hitting me and throwing random objects at me all the while commanding me to make her lunch. i punched her in the stomach and made her cry, oh look at me the horrible man...
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studies show that neither men or women are superior to each other. the sexual phenotype is the only difference. they both have different intelligiance levels, but they have different types of which they use more of depending on their gender. as far as reproduction goes, they both play roles in the outcome. however, there are more single mothers than single fathers. sexism is truely stupid when it comes right down to it. it gets you nowhere. both genders are hard-working exept for exeptions, like everything else in the world. clearly, you know as well as i do that women worked outside the home even fifty years ago.
if you need anymore proof, search google. there are tons of studies there. ![]() QUOTE Women, for their part, learn to speak earlier, know more words, recall them better, pause less and glide through tongue twisters. QUOTE Although sex differences in brain and body take their inspiration from the central agenda of reproduction, they don't end there. "We've practiced medicine as though only a woman's breasts, uterus and ovaries made her unique -- and as though her heart, brain and every other part of her body were identical to those of a man," says Marianne J. Legato, M.D., a cardiologist at Columbia University who spearheads the new push on gender differences. Legato notes that women live longer but break down more. http://psychologytoday.com/articles/pto-2832.html |
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That is very traditional the idea of men having to pay for everything.
I believe that men and women both have things that need to spend on. Saying that one gender needs more money for whatever reason is very stereotypical; however, life isn't fair, all we can really do is vote to hopefully have our opinions represented by congress. |
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