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A CHALLENGE TO THE ATHEIST
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post May 1 2007, 11:02 PM
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Prove that there is no God.
 
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post May 1 2007, 11:11 PM
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I saw a little boy who was maybe 6 or seven with an incurable skin disease that made his skin look like sand. His skin jutted out in points and and wrinkled in horrible disfugured ways. This boy is too young to have commited any offense that warranted this type of punishment. There is no God. How about this. Prove there is a God. That's why I hate this f**kin site. It's full of a bunch of stupid Asian preteen know-it-alls desperate for some form of social conversation who pick obvious debate tactics and choose simple topics because they are unable to create any original ideas. Finish the 8th grade and then come back. Till then, stop bitching and step down from your goddamn soapbox. You're gay.

P.S.: Most of the ideas in this post are from Christian friends of mine. You will never win anyone over to Christ over the f**kin internet dumbass. My christian friend said to suck his dick, after which you will see the light of christ...dripping over your face.

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post May 2 2007, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE(The Abominable C-Pillar @ May 2 2007, 12:11 AM) *
I saw a little boy who was maybe 6 or seven with an incurable skin disease that made his skin look like sand. His skin jutted out in points and and wrinkled in horrible disfugured ways. This boy is too young to have commited any offense that warranted this type of punishment. There is no God.
Reincarnation and karmic reaction.
QUOTE(The Abominable C-Pillar @ May 2 2007, 12:11 AM) *
That's why I hate this f**kin site. It's full of a bunch of stupid Asian preteen know-it-alls desperate for some form of social conversation who pick obvious debate tactics and choose simple topics because they are unable to create any original ideas. Finish the 8th grade and then come back. Till then, stop bitching and step down from your goddamn soapbox. You're gay.
No need to get all hateful and racist here. If you need a breather, take it.
 
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post May 2 2007, 03:50 PM
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I dont think we as humans will EVER be able to prove or disprove the existance of God. I think it's way beyond our comprehension.
 
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post May 2 2007, 04:19 PM
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prove to me that there's something after death.
 
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post May 2 2007, 04:26 PM
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Prove that there is a God. Posts like this don't accomplish anything _dry.gif
 
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post May 2 2007, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(.misoshiru @ May 2 2007, 5:19 PM) *
prove to me that there's something after death.
1) We are not our bodies. 2) Being born into certain living conditions. 3) Clinical death situations and their stories of experiencing "life after death." 4) The Dalai Lama and similar situations in which children unexposed to media can recall their pasts.

(I'm implying reincarnation.)
 
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post May 2 2007, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(Caitlinnn @ May 2 2007, 5:26 PM) *
Prove that there is a God. Posts like this don't accomplish anything _dry.gif

Exact-o-f**king-ly. You can't prove anything over the internet unless it's in a face-to-face conversation.
 
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post May 2 2007, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(Podomaht @ May 2 2007, 5:35 PM) *
Exact-o-f**king-ly. You can't prove anything over the internet unless it's in a face-to-face conversation.
I disagree. While a face-to-face discussion would definitely be preferable, it's not impossible to convey messages (along with proof and sources) on the internet, even if it be less effective.
 
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^ I actually think its easier to debate over the internet, because its easier to show more proof and sources. When debating in person, there's really no way to show someone a website or any other form of proof.
 
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Exact-o-f**king-ly. You can't prove anything over the internet unless it's in a face-to-face conversation



I didn't even mean it that way. I prefer debating over the internet as opposed to debating in person. I don't see how creating a topic and telling atheists to prove God doesn't exist is a debate. If he (or she) had given evidence to why he exists then it would be.
 
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QUOTE(Caitlinnn @ May 2 2007, 2:26 PM) *
Prove that there is a God. Posts like this don't accomplish anything _dry.gif

You can't. God is not a physical being and is not observable, hence you cannot use logic to comprehend his existence. This does not mean that God does not exist, it just implies that you cannot prove that there is a God through wordly evidence.
 
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post May 2 2007, 08:43 PM
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You can't prove that there IS a god the way that I can't prove to you that there is NO god. Not 100% in either way.
 
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post May 2 2007, 08:45 PM
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PROVE THAT THERE IS A GOD.
 
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post May 2 2007, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE(.misoshiru @ May 2 2007, 9:43 PM) *
You can't prove that there IS a god the way that I can't prove to you that there is NO god. Not 100% in either way.
Checking up on the reliability of these religious scriptures may help a bit.
 
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post May 2 2007, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ May 3 2007, 9:45 AM) *
Checking up on the reliability of these religious scriptures may help a bit.

This topic is just like yours asking Christians to prove that there is a god. But of course, which god is real? The christian god? Buddha? Mohammed? or the Flying Spaghetti Monster? Or is there even a god?
 
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QUOTE(.misoshiru @ May 2 2007, 9:47 PM) *
This topic is just like yours asking Christians to prove that there is a god. But of course, which god is real? The christian god? Buddha? Mohammed? or the Flying Spaghetti Monster? Or is there even a god?
Several scriptures are supposedly said to be "the word of God" or written by prophets and what not who spoke to angels and messengers. The more or less reliable the scriptures become, the more or less likely of a chance there seems be a "Christian (or Muslim, Hindu, etc.) God" to be existent. Testing the reliability of a scripture isn't impossible. People like to look for contradictions within a scripture. One thing I like to watch out for are scriptures written a long, long time ago describing concepts that weren't discovered and confirmed until much later after the scripture itself was written.

And I don't think I ever created any topics asking Christians to prove that there is a God...
 
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post May 2 2007, 09:28 PM
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the topic Challenge for Christians. "prove that your God is different from an imaginary friend"? Sort of similar.
 
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post May 2 2007, 09:34 PM
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Similar, yet different. sly.gif

Heh, I know what you're talking about. That question was worded the way it was so that it wasn't another "prove that God exists" topic. It was meant to be a neutral question, actually. Christians might have taken it as "Hey! Yeah! My God is different from an imaginary friend," while an atheist could go "Hah, that's right; your God is no different from an imaginary friend."
 
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QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ May 2 2007, 5:32 PM) *
1) We are not our bodies. 2) Being born into certain living conditions. 3) Clinical death situations and their stories of experiencing "life after death." 4) The Dalai Lama and similar situations in which children unexposed to media can recall their pasts.

(I'm implying reincarnation.)

Reincarnation is the stupidest theory but as much as I hate to admit it, it is entirely plausible. Einstein's theory of energy held the idea that energy is eternal and can never be depleted, merely changed. So the idea that the energy of one life can be shifted to inhabit a new life is plausible. But the idea of Kharma and being either rewarded or punished for the acts of your past life is bullshit. It is possible that our energy can carry some form of memory, so we may remember things from a past life. But your beliefs and/or actions have nothing to do with it. And anyone who will decide to critique this idea(and I know you're all just itching behind the surface) can shut the f**k up.
What do you think the idea of a soul is? A soul is the displaced energy our bodies once held. It is the energy within us which gives us our extrasensory perception, like when you feel that someone is looking at you and when you look up they're staring at you, or how when you walk into a room where fighting has occured you feel either anger or fear.
NDEs(Near Death Experiences) are merely our dying brains fulfilling what our beliefs are. Why do you think a Christian NDE will see Jesus or God, yet an Islamic NDE will see Allah. If you live your life believing that Barney and the Grimace are your saviors, your NDE will be full of purple mosters.
We all have our beliefs, I myself hold the belief that there is no higher power. This is not arrogance or ignorance talking, you have no idea how much I would love to have unquestioning blind faith in a God that will answer my prayers and guide me through life because I can say without a doubt that I am utterly lost. The problem is that my rational mind would never allow this. It's not fair to me, I want to have faith. But wanting and truly believing are two very different things. I know this about myself, there is nothing in life that can ever make me believe in a higher power because there is always an explanation, even for the things we have not yet discovered. In 500 years, I believe we will have undenying evidence that show how humans came to be, how the universe was formed, all the secrets of life we have yet to discover. It just takes time. 500 years ago, we all thought the world was flat, that Earth was the center of the Solar system, and no one questioned the notion of God and his divine plan. But we've learned better, haven't we.
 
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QUOTE(cup noodles @ May 2 2007, 9:45 PM) *
PROVE THAT THERE IS A GOD.

There have been quite a few people that has already said that.
And that discussion is over here, not in this thread. _smile.gif
 
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QUOTE(The Abominable C-Pillar @ May 3 2007, 1:38 AM) *
Reincarnation is the stupidest theory but as much as I hate to admit it, it is entirely plausible. Einstein's theory of energy held the idea that energy is eternal and can never be depleted, merely changed. So the idea that the energy of one life can be shifted to inhabit a new life is plausible. But the idea of Kharma and being either rewarded or punished for the acts of your past life is bullshit. It is possible that our energy can carry some form of memory, so we may remember things from a past life. But your beliefs and/or actions have nothing to do with it. And anyone who will decide to critique this idea(and I know you're all just itching behind the surface) can shut the f**k up.
I see reincarnation and karma as a single package. Putting the two together helps the two concepts make more sense.

Cool, you saw the similarity between the concept of reincarnation and the Law of Conservation of Energy and Matter. Karma's not that unfamiliar of a concept either. Refer to Newton's third law. "For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction."

If you would have rather I not have said anything at all, feel free to disregard everything I just said.

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We all have our beliefs, I myself hold the belief that there is no higher power. This is not arrogance or ignorance talking, you have no idea how much I would love to have unquestioning blind faith in a God that will answer my prayers and guide me through life because I can say without a doubt that I am utterly lost. The problem is that my rational mind would never allow this. It's not fair to me, I want to have faith. But wanting and truly believing are two very different things. I know this about myself, there is nothing in life that can ever make me believe in a higher power because there is always an explanation, even for the things we have not yet discovered. In 500 years, I believe we will have undenying evidence that show how humans came to be, how the universe was formed, all the secrets of life we have yet to discover. It just takes time. 500 years ago, we all thought the world was flat, that Earth was the center of the Solar system, and no one questioned the notion of God and his divine plan. But we've learned better, haven't we.
Understandable.

QUOTE(StanleyThePanda @ May 3 2007, 1:42 AM) *
There have been quite a few people that has already said that.
And that discussion is over here, not in this thread. _smile.gif
That was never meant to be a "prove that there is a God" topic. xmas.gif
 
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^ "different from an imaginary friend." meaning real? correct?
idk thats what I thought.... oh well. shrug.gif
I was replying because there were a ton of people who were like "PROVE THAT THERE IS!", and it really doesnt contribute the debate AT ALL. But I suppose neither do my posts.
 
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post May 3 2007, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ May 3 2007, 4:09 PM) *
If you would have rather I not have said anything at all, feel free to disregard everything I just said.

haha. You didnt disagree or critique, so don't worry about it. I meant that for the people who always disagree just so that they can disagree. I hate those people. If you are gonna disagree with someone, at least have a reason or make some type of sense. Don't just disagree because you don't like what they're saying. haha
 
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