ROFL

we wouldn't abuse it, if the members don't deserve it. But when a member crosses the line, then they will be warn. If continously, then we'll use more, for lacks of better words, punisment.

what about.. .just, getting better mods.

^ would you like to elaborate more?

who would you say to make a "Better" mod?

Elba!

According to common sense, it's stating the obvious ;)

Your tone is condescending. That's bashing.

Reporting.

XD feel free =D

Ooh, condescending. Reminds me of air condition.

Btw, you can report me, too, like your partner kyrogenix (sp?) did.

No, I don't want to. You're just a cock anyways.

Then .. you're a CHICKEN.

Btw mods, I'm not arguing. I'm just going way off-topic. x]

You have no idea how stupid you sounded typing that.

Anyways.

We need to have a warning system.

You must be a pussy cat then XD

sorry brownsugar kinda gotta to reply that one it's just too funnie to resist XD

We went over this issue about a year ago or two.

Member will take disadvantage of mod by voting them off by "disliking"

I agree. I feel that personal dislikes will weigh out what really should be done.

A "warning system" will only fuel certain people's vendetta's against the mods.

You're wanting to give a whole bunch of immature people the power to warn someone. You go ballistic with the reporting, one can only wonder what you'd do with a warning system.

Wow, as if the mods are any more mature than the rest of us.

You know, I'll jump in and say something here - I don't think you're entirely wrong in what you're aiming at. I also don't think it's as bad as what you're saying, but I can agree that a lot of mod actions that have been directed at you recently have been because of a lack of communication. People have been too quick to move, close, warn, without understanding the meaning behind your posts. Just because people don't "get it" doesn't necessarily mean it's spam.

Realizing that a lot of our staff members are young, they've been trusted with a responsibility that requires some of them to be more mature than their actual age. That being said, I think our staff members are mature enough to handle it. The problem is the misconception of the term "mature". Being mature doesn't mean performing as many mod actions as possible, it's knowing WHEN to perform these actions that counts, as well as being consistent in how they are carried out. I think we can work on this, and I think as they get settled into their roles (this WAS a very recent hiring session, after all, it was only about a month ago, if I remember correctly) we'll have a more pleasant interaction between mods/members.

Without dismissing your idea completely, James, I'm interested in hearing more about your idea as far as how the system works, and how, if it were implemented, we would prevent members voting mods down simply because they were angry about something. It's easy to feel like you're being treated unfairly when you're on the receiving end, is all I'm saying.

Then what about the mod vendettas against users?

Ballistic? I'm doing my part to help the community! Now that you guys have defined what is warn worthy, I've been vigilant in finding posts that go against these definitions.

Now there's a mod I can semi-agree with.

Honestly, it's just the choice of the mods. Most of them aren't 'mature' enough to handle the power of what to close, and what to warn about. Half the threads that are closed don't need to be and 90% of the actions most of the mods take on behalf of assuming things are in fact, wrong.

Oh gosh, no one (that I know of) has a vendetta against anyone.



Well you know, part of that might be because of the youth factor (both in age and in the amount of time on staff).

Something that has been definitely brought up Backstage (hope it's ok for me to say this) is the idea of communicating with someone prior to closing (unless it's something blatent, like advertisting). Typically what is desired is for the person that has made a thread that seems like it should be closed to get a PM, to ask them what's up. I think a lot of premature closing of threads could be solved that way. Now on the chance that someone's PM box is full (and to acknowledge something Kryo has said before, of course it's your choice rather or not to clean out your inbox), what would be great is if someone were to respond in that thread and just ask. It never hurts to ask.

Funny, because I don't know of any specific user-mod vendettas either. But we still seem to be having problems...

For some reason there's just this strange lack of communication lately. I think that we all want the same thing though, right? That is, we all want to have fun here, post around and be able to discuss things? There's this sense of you don't like me and I don't like you, which I don't think has any real basis. A lot of this is really poor communication. I've actually talked to people Backstage about what Dani just recently said here, a while ago.

Staff knows that now that they need to make an attempt to communicate, prior to closing threads if it is something of a gray area to them. Typically this should be done via PM. If that isn't possible, then in-thread and before it is closed. Now this hasn't been made into a rule, but I'm hoping it will be thought of as a standard. If someone doesn't respond back, then there isn't much they can do about that, but at least the door to communicating has been opened.