f**k yeah. no drinkin age. its tru tht many ppl get hospitalized or even die when they hit 21 cuz they are finally able 2 legally drink. and then i wont get in troubble @ parties any more.
no drinkin age like in argentina is better. thts why im goin ova tha summer.

Incorrect. What if the parents give them that money. I've seen young teenagers driving around my town in fancy cars, speeding down the highway, I see it all the time. There's always ways to get that money, it doesn't have to come straight from a teenager not only that true most likely they wont get to buy the car but they can have someone else buy the car for them a.k.a parents.

Incorrect. Friends will allow others friends to drive their car. I've seen it happen before. Plus there is a chance that person could also steal there friends car to take a spin.

Yes, true a lot of adults are careless but most adults are more mature when it comes to alcohol for the most part, I am sure the percentage of teens with alcohol is probably a lot higher then adults. But that's just my opinion.

Yes, alcohol is different then a car but the thing is both can kill you. Cars=car accidents especially when alcohol is involved and alcohol can cause severe brain damage or even death, hence "alcohol poisening".








I used to know someone that got hospitalized for drinking too much in one night, he almost lost his life (I don't think you'd be laughing or even saying what your saying now if you were in his position) oh and I also read in an article a 15 year old lost her life to binge drinking from alcohol poisening.

Stats? Are you only talking about the States?

I'm talking in general. Not meaning all teens are this way so don't get me wrong but a BIG percentage are.

How do you know?

Because I've seen it and I've been around adults and young teenagers.

a car is still nevertheless harder to get than alcohol. maybe it's because we're from different places. i'm from nyc and most parents would not get a car for their kids here. insurance in the city is extremely expensive. and not that many kids know how to hot wire a car.

and adults are not more mature. there are alcoholics for a reason. there are adults out there who can't go through the day without their daily gin and tonic. alcohol is a dangerous substance. anyone at any age can fall victim to it.

here's the thing. i advocate a reasonable drinking age (18) and a higher driving age (21). someone binge drinking only (most often) does harm to themselves. it's their fault for drinking so much. but with a car, they potentially become a threat to everyone and themselves.

Alcohol involvement (AI)* among young drivers under age 21 and drivers ages 21 and older in fatal traffic crashes, United States, 1982–2004.

Adults get into MUCH more car crashes... why? cause they can drive AND drink at the same time. which is why the drinking age should be lower than the driving age. because if the driving age is earlier, teenagers can do both at the same time because it's quite easy to get alcohol. however, if they can only drink, it would drastically reduce the amount of alcohol related car crash fatalities because a car is harder to obtain than a giant bottle of grey goose.

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Because I've seen it and I've been around adults and young teenagers.

just cause you've seen it doesn't mean it applies to the entire nation. you hang out with people your age and only see them consume alcohol. there's also adults at bars and taverns and pubs. adults you have wine/beer/alcohol with their dinner.

You've been around all the adults and teens in the US?

When I say in general or when I was talking about teenagers & adults I am not saying EVERY teenager or adult is that way but a huge ammount of them are. I just think adults are more mentally mature in a lot of cases, not all but a lot. No, I haven't been out of states, as I have stated, I am not referring to everyone.



Well last time I looked, it was teens that have gotten in more car accidents than adults. While a lot of people get into car accidents all together including adults teens pretty high up there. Everytime I watch the news and I hear about a car accident, it ALWAYS involves a teenager not being responsible, either due to drinking & driving or just driving carelessly.

that's because news is selective. they are going to pick fatale teenage car crashes because it sends a message. people view teenage drunk driving as a huge problem which is why they would have news stories about it.

in nyc (i don't mean to sound racist), a lot of the crime news stories involve african americans. does that mean that african americans are criminals? or there are more african american criminals than other races?

and no. if you checked the link i gave you, in 2004: 1820 out of 8100 teenage fatale car crashes involved alcohol while 12269 out of 49397 adult fatale car crashes were alcohol related. even by percentages, adults overrun teenagers.

Just because you drink does not mean you are mature. It just makes you drunk... and we don't need drunk 14 year olds running around. I believe there are ups and downs to having the drinking age so "high." People get curious and do really stupid things, but people who are well above the drinking age go and get drunk- and crash their cars and kill people. It's not just the 21 year olds.

I think if drinking is done responsibly, even under age, great, go ahead and do it. Just don't kill people in the process.

Your right. But from what I hear NYC has one of the biggest crime rates in the U.S. but then again it's a big city and all big cities have major problems like that. I live in a small town. Not all African American's are criminals but a big proportion are just like other races.



EXACTLY.

There are young kids out there drinking, I've known 10 year olds to do it because older people are allowing it. There are even 30 year olds out their that drink that are immensly immature.

yup...i agree

everytime I drink, do I get drunk... NO
drinking doesn't mean gettting drunk
there's a big difference

thanks for everyone's input

I started this topic a year ago... and who knew I need to do a project on it this year :)

in ohio it used to be 16 or 18 i think. my mom and her freinds used to sneak across the border to get some

I agree that a lowered drinking age would make drinking less exciting among teens. Most teens do it to fit in witht he others who do it because it's bad and cool.

i say either no drinking age limit or put her down to 18. the whole example of going to war and dieing but not being alowed to drink is a classic example of how stupid the 21 age limit is.

as far as drinks go i'll drink w/e to get f**ked up, red wine is my drink of choice.

laws are being retarded.
ppo who propose laws should think.
and a drinking age limit thing w.e isnt going to stop whomever wants to drink.

some laws are just plain stupid.

ioono if anyone mentioned it, but it has to do with development too. legally, you're an adult at 18 but there are still consequences on body and mind development. you also have to look at the consequence of taking away a law that was once there, or giving a freedom that once wasn't there legally to a certain population.

I think UNITED STATES (I mean as a whole) is to IMMATURE to lower the drinking age, compared to the other countries.

yep, that's kind of what i think. there are a whole lot of other factors going into it.

And to people talking about completely banning alcohol, please look up prohibition in the US on wikipedia or something. It DID happen, for like a year. If you're gonna argue for it, be intelligent about it.

i dont think the drinking age shuold be lower
just think of all of the problems we ALREADY have with immature people drinking and driving.

and besides.
why not listemn to wise words of dane cook?

"i've never had a drink or a drug. i want someone who wants to feel the moments of life and doesn't need a substance to enhance or decrease the experience." - dane cook, to people.

you are going there just to drink? i dont even see why drinking is such a great thing anyway.

well by the time your 18 you get wasted ANYWAYS. so they shouldnt eliminate but maybe lower a tad bit.