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#51
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This is actually a hard subject, I kinda think both ways but don't. I mean I do have to agree people in other Countries where there is either no drinking age or there is a low drinking age, the country is just better all the way around but at the same time I think the drinking age should stay at 21. But at the same time there really is no point cause a lot of people will not wait till there 21 to get alcohol. So, it's kinda 50/50 for me. :-/ And I do not think that someone waiting till there 21 is going to make them want to get drunk. I tried alcohol at 13..just a sip of beer and had some wine before I was 21 but I didn't actually drink a lot until I turned 21...I have never been drunk. Basically, when it comes to alcohol, I don't think it is the alcohol that is the problem but the people who abuse it.
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#52
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no way... gosh that would cause soo many more problems. theres already enough people dead from drunk drivers. give kids alcohol now will just set them for to be an alcoholic. i personally dont think drinking alcoholic beverages should even be legal, but thats not gonna happen. more rape, other sexual abuses& car accidents happen when theres drinking involved. I agree. ![]() |
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QUOTE no way... gosh that would cause soo many more problems. theres already enough people dead from drunk drivers. give kids alcohol now will just set them for to be an alcoholic. i personally dont think drinking alcoholic beverages should even be legal, but thats not gonna happen. more rape, other sexual abuses& car accidents happen when theres drinking involved. agreed. |
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I agree.
Prohibition did NOTHING but bring up incredible amounts of "illegal" liquor. People who think that making drinking illegal will actually help "prevent" anything are dumb. |
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![]() Jake - The Unholy Trinity / Premiscuous Poeteer. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,272 Joined: May 2006 Member No: 411,316 ![]() |
Should the United States get rid of their drinking age limit like many other countries? I believe the United States should get rid of the drinking age. It is actually safer not to have a drinking age. When many people in the U.S. reach the drinking limit, they celebrate by getting dangerously wasted. Countries like France do not have such a big drinking problem like the U.S. because they have no drinking age. Not having a drinking age will allow children to drink. If it's legal to drink, young people will become more mature. They won't have the joy of being a badass drinking underage. In China, almost everyone drinks, and there are a few accidents. The drinking age in America cause hundred of thousands of people, celebrating being old enough to drink, getting rushed to emergency rooms every year. WHAT?! That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. He have a drinking age for a reason. To be safe. Of course there are people out there...like me, who don't listen to it. Kids who generally drink underage are with people who have done it before. So, they are being supervised by professionals. Hahahha. But you know what I mean. Look at the countries who allow drinking at any age. They're fun, but have tons of problems. Oh, and when you said that when people reach the age that they can drink, you said it was dangerous cause they would get dangerously wasted....What do you think would happen if we took away the age restriction? Huh? Haha. Oh, and plus...Do you think that lowering the drinking age would make people more mature? That's not the answer. By far it's not the answer. That's dumb. Lower the drinking age..Pfft. |
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WHAT?! That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. He have a drinking age for a reason. To be safe. Of course there are people out there...like me, who don't listen to it. Kids who generally drink underage are with people who have done it before. So, they are being supervised by professionals. Hahahha. But you know what I mean. Look at the countries who allow drinking at any age. They're fun, but have tons of problems. Oh, and when you said that when people reach the age that they can drink, you said it was dangerous cause they would get dangerously wasted....What do you think would happen if we took away the age restriction? Huh? Haha. Oh, and plus...Do you think that lowering the drinking age would make people more mature? That's not the answer. By far it's not the answer. That's dumb. Lower the drinking age..Pfft. Well, if you don't follow the drinking age, then why do you support it? I mean, you obviously have no regard for it, and there are plenty of others who are the same as you. Many of the teenagers who don't already drink don't drink because there's an age limit, they don't drink because of their morals. I've been to drinking parties, but I have refused to get drunk and act like an idiot like the other people there. I would do the same if drinking were legal for me. |
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this is how i look at it. the drinking age is 21. people can get a permit and get in a car when they are 16. however, it is quite evident that many teenagers can get alcohol whether or not they are 21. so therefore, we have dumb, drunk teens being able to do both drinking and/or driving. however, if the law was flipped. let's say the drinking age is 18 and the driving age was 21. cars are much harder to obtain than a bottle of beer. therefore, kids would just be drinking without the privilege of a dangerous vehicle. |
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this is how i look at it. the drinking age is 21. people can get a permit and get in a car when they are 16. however, it is quite evident that many teenagers can get alcohol whether or not they are 21. so therefore, we have dumb, drunk teens being able to do both drinking and/or driving. however, if the law was flipped. let's say the drinking age is 18 and the driving age was 21. cars are much harder to obtain than a bottle of beer. therefore, kids would just be drinking without the privilege of a dangerous vehicle. wow, i never looked at it that way. this is an extremely good idea! ^_^ except i'd be irritated if i had to wait longer for my car. :/ actually, i think many people would disagree with this b/c kids around 16 and older need jobs, etc to prepare for college. :[ |
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![]() Jake - The Unholy Trinity / Premiscuous Poeteer. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,272 Joined: May 2006 Member No: 411,316 ![]() |
Well, just because I don't follow it doesn't mean it shouldn't be so. I am one of those, and there are others, that feel that things must come with maturity. Kids back in the early twentieth century used to drive because their parents thought they were mature enough. This age restriction is because there have been too many injuries or deaths from minors drinking, so they generalize people and say that we can't drink under 21.
I'm not saying I'm the most mature person in the world, sober or drunk, but I feel it's up to the individual. Nuff said, nigga. |
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however, if the law was flipped. let's say the drinking age is 18 and the driving age was 21. cars are much harder to obtain than a bottle of beer. therefore, kids would just be drinking without the privilege of a dangerous vehicle. I kinda disagree. You say that it's harder to obtain a car..not really...all they have to do is buy one or borrow one from a friend, if they never break the laws of the road and look old enough to drive, chances are they will be able to obtain that vehicle. But of course, if they look under the age or do break the rules of the road..then okay. Secondly, just because a car isn't involved doesn't mean there isn't other dangers. Lets see theres alcohol poisening possiblities and of course violent acts towards others. Either way if your behind a vehicle or not, a lot of people are dangerous under the influence of alcohol. |
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![]() Jake - The Unholy Trinity / Premiscuous Poeteer. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,272 Joined: May 2006 Member No: 411,316 ![]() |
^ Yeah, seriously. I know a kid who was 14 and driving. I mean, alot of kids look young and how can looks determine how old a person is? It can't. Oh, he drove drunk and was 14. Haha. How ironic to this topic.
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your brain matures at the average age of 21. i saw on a video that teens who drink damage their brain because it isn't fully developed and do worse at school then kids who have never touched alcohol. i kinda just wished that alcohol was totally illegal.. but then again, the points a lot of members have made here sound better off. i'd totally either go for completely illegal (but then it'd 'cause a lot of problems also), but yeah.. no age is good too.
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[font=tahoma][size=1]your brain matures at the average age of 21. I totally disagree on that one. Your maturity is NOT based on your age. I've seen 35 year olds who are as immature as a 10 year old child. I actually became mature at a young age..I think I was 16, I'm 24 now. ![]() i saw on a video that teens who drink damage their brain because it isn't fully developed What video is this? I'd like to see it! I don't believe the teens brains were damaged because of that reason..it doesn't matter if your 15 or 31...your brain will be damaged either way...alcohol is damaging but it also depends upon how much you drink..they actually say red wine is good for your heart. |
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I personally think that we are focusing on the wrong issue here. No matter what the drinking age is, people who want to drink will. Lowering/Raising/Abolishing it won't solve that problem. The common aspect in all drinking problems is that kids these days believe it's some heavenly ambrosia that they're just waiting to get their hands on. We should work toward getting them to realize the reality behind alcohol - the fact that it is basically poison for your body in excess and does little to no good the way teens regard it.
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I totally disagree on that one. Your maturity is NOT based on your age. I've seen 35 year olds who are as immature as a 10 year old child. I actually became mature at a young age..I think I was 16, I'm 24 now. ![]() i meant your physical brain; the actual brain. not your mental one. i know people mature at different ages, but you're talking about the way they act/think. yeahhh. QUOTE What video is this? I'd like to see it! I don't believe the teens brains were damaged because of that reason..it doesn't matter if your 15 or 31...your brain will be damaged either way...alcohol is damaging but it also depends upon how much you drink..they actually say red wine is good for your heart. It was a video we watched in sex ed. class. alcohol tied in with rape, so we watched it. Since, like I said up there, your brain doesn't fully develope until age of 21 (some people's develop earlier and some develop slower), it damages your brain more easily when it's still immature. But you're right, it damages anyone's brain who drinks alcohol. It's just that they were focusing on teens and alcohol on the video and made a point why teens shouldn't drink and should wait until the legal age. |
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i meant your physical brain; the actual brain. not your mental one. i know people mature at different ages, but you're talking about the way they act/think. yeahhh. That makes no sense at all. Your totally confusing me...I mean what do you mean your actual brain...your mental brain is your actual brain and maturity IS based on actions and the way you think and that is the whole purpose of your brain. I don't believe people are immature have more chances of brain damage...I just don't believe in that. IMMATURE: emotionally undeveloped; juvenile; childish. Now, if your talking brain capacity..then okay, but you put "immaturity" into it not brain "capacity"... made a point why teens shouldn't drink and should wait until the legal age. Well...yet I disagree again..one reason is because the only reason people think a young person should wait is not because of our the brain functions but because of the maturity level...when your older your more likely to be responsible when you drink...it has nothing to do with your brain being damaged...cause even if you do wait till your old enough, there are still chances of damages accuring. |
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okay, maybe i'm just wording it really badly because you totally missed what i really meant.
I mean the video made a point why teens shouldn't drink and should wait until the legal age. I didn't say what points and what they told the class. Even though you can already tell that something they mentioned was about the brain maturing, it wasn't fully the 'point' of the video tried to get across. As for the brain thing, i meant it MATURED fully. Like you'd say someone has a MATURED body after puberty, or someone who's preadolescent is IMMATURE. That kind. |
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I feel like a lot of underage teens drink because it IS restricted...gives sort of a rebellious feel. It sounds ridiculous, and it is, but I bet it is true in some cases.
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I feel like a lot of underage teens drink because it IS restricted...gives sort of a rebellious feel. It sounds ridiculous, and it is, but I bet it is true in some cases. Yep! Afterall, rules ARE made for breaking lol...that's the way I see it anyways...people break the law because they can and because of the adrenaline rush. |
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People always want what they can not have.
With a lower drinking age there will be less of a thrill with underage drinking. (And ill be honest i only opened this because i was intrigued with the title, because i partake in underage drinking ![]() |
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I kinda disagree. You say that it's harder to obtain a car..not really...all they have to do is buy one or borrow one from a friend, if they never break the laws of the road and look old enough to drive, chances are they will be able to obtain that vehicle. But of course, if they look under the age or do break the rules of the road..then okay. Secondly, just because a car isn't involved doesn't mean there isn't other dangers. Lets see theres alcohol poisening possiblities and of course violent acts towards others. Either way if your behind a vehicle or not, a lot of people are dangerous under the influence of alcohol. you can't buy a car without massive amounts of money (which most teenagers do not have), a license/insurance/registration, or at least, someone 21+ to back you up (which usually would be your guardian). as for friends lending their cars to underaged teenagers. highly unlikely. if the underaged teenager gets caught, the lender can potentially go to jail. also, how many drivers you know will give a teenager a car? a six pack of beer is EXTREMELY different from a two-ton car. maybe there will be kids who can get cars. however, it would be extraordinarily lower than kids who can get alcohol. as for the other dangers, it could be applied to adults too. so should be ban for everyone? last time that happened, organized crime and mounds of wasted cash happened. |
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it's such a touchy subject. my grandpa was an alchoholic, and it tore my family apart. i think lowering it to 18 makes a lot of sense - i mean, if you're a legal ADULT at 18, why wouldn't you be able to drink? if children were allowed to drink, they probably wouldn't think of alchohol as such an "untouchable" and wouldn't be as interested in getting drunk. so ditching the drinking age MIGHT be a good think. but on the other hand, getting rid of the drinking age might make kids MORE interested in drinking, and make them think alchohol is OK to have a lot and could become alchoholics.
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QUOTE as for the other dangers, it could be applied to adults too. so should be ban for everyone? last time that happened, organized crime and mounds of wasted cash happened. its true..adults can hardly handle themselves when alcohol is involved. so a younger crowd shouldn't get the right to intoxicate themselves. what good would letting a younger crowd intoxicate themselves bring? |
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its true..adults can hardly handle themselves when alcohol is involved. so a younger crowd shouldn't get the right to intoxicate themselves. what good would letting a younger crowd intoxicate themselves bring? you agreed that adults can hardly handle themselves. then, they shouldn't be allowed to drink also. |
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^yeah. thats what i said in my earlier post
QUOTE i personally don't think drinking alcoholic beverages should even be legal, but thats not gonna happen.
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