Thats why theres a silent mode?

Not all kids thinks their world will end without their cellphones.
And plus, if we have a cellphone why not use it? I know forsure the school doesnt want 100-1000 kids to stand in line waiting to use the office phones.





Thats how they do it at my school too.. and it isn`t THAT much of a problem either..

i think the whole metal detectors, iPod+cellphone banning thing is going a little bit overboard. if classroom enviornment disturbance is the issue, kids should be made to turn their phones/iPods off or be made to turn it in to the teacher if it goes off during class.


what if someone got hurt and people needed to call for ambulance? or if their parents desperately need to call them because an emergency happened @ home, e.g somebody got hurt, the mom is giving birth.

on the flip side, metal detectors can be a wise installment not for the getting rid of cellphones/iPods part but for preventing school violence involving knives, guns, etc.

Excuse me, but I hope you don't think I'm new to the whole cell phone business. I've been attending college for the last 4 years where the use of cell phones is as routine as blinking. It is also where the Silent Mode is forgotten HALF the time. In fact, mine has gone off in class no less than three times last semester on accident. You may think, three times is nothing, but imagine a room from 20-250 people with cells that would ring on average of three times each semester. That drives our professors nutty, and I don't blame them. Yesterday, my friend's phone rang in our class of 16 folks while we're in conference mode for project approval. That was not only embarrassing, but totally disruptive and she knows it.

You may want to read previous posts, please, before getting " " with me. There have been people in this very thread that said they're unsure of what to do in an emergency without cellphones, which in my mind is the most ridiculous, and at the same time frightful way of thinking.

Now then, I've also said that I've used the bus all four years of high school; that's both the regular and the late bus, mind you. I depended on the office phone a lot, but I have never, ever seen 100-1000 kids use the office phone. Even when there was really bad weather there were about 7-11 of kids in the office. This is a nonsensical assumption. Please think of a realistic scenerio.

Oh, and I love that "we have cell phones so why not use them [in school]" bit. I have 2 MP3 players, why not use them [in school]? I can watch movies on my laptop, why not watch movies [in class]? Yea? Oh, oh, my sophomore cousin just got one of those small DVD players, why not let him watch anime [in school]? One of my project partners has porn on his laptop, why not watch it in class?

I hope you see where the logic of "I have it, so I can use it" fail.


I thought I already cover the "what if's" pretty extensively already. You kids sure lack faith in your school's authority figures, I don't see why though as they are more trained to handle emergencies than most students can ever be. Somebody got hurt at home, shouldn't they call another adult instead of a kid? Also, my Mom has passed a message to me at school before. Guess how she did it? She dialled the school's number on wired phone and spoke to the operator. Bam, next period I got a note. Oh, and my Mom doesn't even speak English that well.

... people, it doesn't take a rocket scientist, just common sense. Tell me you kids still have common sense.

^ yes. i have common sense.

I also have a cell phone, and will continue to use it whether they are banned or not.

Therefore, i have no opinion on this matter.

if people have common sense at all, it's pretty easy enough to press a few buttons and get the phone on silent mode, yeah?

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How is it that you can't read the words "forgotten" and "accident" even when one of them is bolded? But hey, if you think common sense is the same thing as accidents and forgetfulness... more power to you, I suppose . I would suggest you learn what common sense really means though.

And James, you're a rebel. I know it. The world knows it, too. We could careless what you do.

^ HEY! i will have you know that i am CENTRAL to the world.

*sulky face*

the point is, cell phones are useful. as such i want my cell phone.

Yes, cells are useful as they are a convenience, but the point I've been making is that they are not necessary as people have argued in this thread.

And yes, we are rather James-centric.

perhaps not, but banning them in schools isnt the answer... just INSIST on silence mode, and confiscate in case of accident, it ought to make people remember.

but if it wasnt for me, what would the world revolve around? huh? i mean, it would be all askew

banning them is the answer. why wouldn't it be? my professors have rules like making the person leave if their cell goes off, but cells still go off. nowdays i keep my phone on silent all the time.

the sun does not shine as bright as you.

I'm guessing that they didn't jump right to a cell phone ban. I'm sure kids were told to put their phones on silent, and just didn't listen. At any rate, if kids did use common sense and put their phones on silent, it wouldn't be a problem. But they don't, because they simply don't care, and banning cell phones is a lot easier than checking each phone to make sure it is on silent.

Cell phones are fine—if kids are mature and responsible with them. But often times they aren't.

i'll be honest.

i don't really need my cell phone in school.

i didn't have one in middle school, and i'd often get stuck at school without a ride. the office just closed down after school- there was no one there.

now, however, i drive, and i don't need to call for rides.

but it is nice to know that if i get in a crash i can call my dad.

it is nice to be able to call my friends afterschool to find them if i need to meet them for something.

i don't text. i don't really use my phone that much in school. but it doesn't disrupt anyone. i have it with me, sure, but it's on silent.

i have never found cell phones distracting in school. sure, if they ring in class, they get taken up, and a parent has to go get it. but that rarely happens.


anyways, michael. cell phones were banned in the 90s as 'drug paraphanelia', because drug dealers would use them to make deals during school.

the ban just was never repealed. it's quite stupid really.

Source?

Because, honestly, I'm skeptical that's the sole reason they are banned now.

You may not find a burst of "It's getting hot in here" bothersome, Justin, but another student might. Even if students don't mind the ringing, teachers will. It is, by definition, disruptive.

It's actually quite simple to turn a phone into silent mode, and I assume if you're capable enough to get into college, you should be able to do it by yourself.


Even middle schoolers remember to put their phone on silent as they enter class. I'm just thinking it might be a bit sad if by the time you get to college, "forgetting"/"accidents" still occur enough to disrupt the class.

yes, it may be disruptive for 10 seconds while i yank the cell phone out of my pocket and hang it up, but it's worth it for the useful aspects.

cell phones are permitted at my school, and we dont have a problem. *shrugs*

Yes, we college folks are rather forgetful, after all, we only have more responsibilities than the groups that you're comparing us to. It's alright if you don't know the differences between college, high school, and middle school yet, but I expect you'd understand oneday, hopefully.

Haha, middle schoolers "remember" to put their phones on silent. Do you have stats or something prove that those kids have never gotten their phones taken away due to it ringing in class or disrupt class? I'd like to see it. This debate wouldn't be a debate at all if you kids actually know/"remember" to put it on silent. The fact is you all don't, and you forgot the bit that instigated this whole controversy, didn't you.

Hey, at least I'm honest about my world and my peers . If only you can do the same.


Oh, I forgot about you, James. I have a funny story for you, but you may consider it hearsay. The first day of my Service Management class my professor took 30 minutes telling us why phones must be turned off during presentations... She said just last semester, one girl forgot to turn her phone off and didn't turn it on silent either. Guess what? It went off during her presentation and she couldn't get to it until she finished.

Yes. It happens.

I've had a phone for 3 years now. My phone rang during class only ONCE.
It didn't get taken away.

When my classmates' phones go off in class, they usually don't get it taken away either.
It's only sometimes that phones get taken away.

Thank you for proving that kids actually don't remember to put their phones on silent.

Your teachers are pretty lenient. Though, taking phones away after the first accident is a little mean. What does your teachers do to repeated offenders?

Well, if the kid is a really bad student or just annoying, the teacher takes it away.
And if someone's phone goes off in class, they usually get it taken away be parents, so there are usually are no repeated offences.

Oh, thank you for being honest as well.

Well, if it gets taken away by the parents, then isn't it the same thing as not having cell phones or having cell phone bans?

Actually, "remember" should be unquoted there because people really do remember to keep their phones on silent. I'm in high school now, and we've been in school for a month; out of all 8 classes I have, only one person's phone has gone off during any of my classes once. Nobody's phone has ever gotten taken away yet. It's a pretty isolated issue here. I guess if we can keep our phones from disrupting class more effectively, "us kids" must have some common sense after all. Hmm.

So you use college as the reason why you guys can't remember to turn your phones on silent. Are you the type of person who's phone goes off during the middle of a movie in the theatre too? Personally I think when you grow older, you should get more responsible too, and pressing a few buttons to get a phone to switch to silent mode isn't that big a challenge anyways.

There's another person above you who proved otherwise (rawr SOCK), that kids don't remember at times. Your school's "isolated" problem doesn't account for all.

No, I don't use college as the reason why we forget, just that we forget and that because of our forgetfulness, phones DO go off in class. I told you, or someone, that my phone is now on silent all the time, but yes, my phone went off in the middle of the movies before, so have many others. And again, I'm simply being honest.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but when you grow older, you are still prone to forgetfulness. That stuff just doesn't go away. Being forgetful and doing things on accident sometimes doesn't equate to irresponsibility. Where do you get that? Also, you do realize that adults phone go on in the theatres, too, right? Your faith in adults being able shed forgetfulness is commendable... but naive.



You edited, so I'm editing. "Common sense" was not to tickle your hostile bone. It was to stress that the world is not going to end when there's an emergency and kids don't have a cell phone. Common sense and a little work can solve problems just as effectively. Please don't read/quote me out of context to be spiteful.
And as for kids being able keep their phones from disrupting class, again, some honest kids just proved otherwise.

Fae, am i missing the point if the story made me laugh?

Lol. to be fair, i forgot to put my phone on silent while i was chairing a debate once. REALLY embarrassing, but i apologize, awarded the speaker extra time, and since then it hasnt happened again.

and, for the record, they would have lost anyway, as they had REALLY bad time management skills.

... no, I guess. I'm uber happy that you found my shoddy sarcasm funny though.

I'm sure everyone apologizes. The point is that it's disruptive. In high school (and middle school and elementary school, too, in case someone is technical enough to correct me), disruptive things are restricted or banned aren't they? So, it makes perfect sense to me that the same happens to cell phones. I don't care much for banning the use of cell phones, but, at the very least, there must be serious restrictions. So serious, that it's enough to disuade that group's general population from carrying one.