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post May 25 2006, 03:42 PM
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I dont think PE should be a grade at all unless you want to take it. JUST LET US BE FAT!

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i got a B in gym, when i normally get straight A's, because i didnt pay my $2 fee. I was so mad. Like the stupid 2 dollars couldn't have waited to be paid until tomorrow!? My gym teachers a.. bad word.
 
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post May 27 2006, 10:13 PM
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I hate to say it but if people can't run a mile in 10 minutes they deserve what they get (unless they have asthma or something)
 
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post Jun 1 2006, 01:57 AM
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my school grades on effort.. but i still only get a B... ehh who cares?? I'm not athletic.. wow reading your guyses posts makes me really greatful for my PE class _smile.gif

all have to do is 10 pushups and situps (even though i cant do like ANY push ups), run two laps around the soccer field at the beginning of each class, and then we usually do drills for some sport, and at the end of that sport's unit, we play an actual full game of the sport... except then there's fitness testing... which can suck...

but yeah, i can say im NOT jealous of you guys
 
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post Jun 20 2006, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE(peggysturr @ Oct 1 2005, 7:09 PM) *
PE is the most hated class in my school because we do lots of running and stretching. The standards of passing that class with an A is too high that only one or two students from the whole class of 50 something people could fulfill.
Push-ups are a killer to all students. Many student's strength aren't strong enough to do 15 push-ups to get an A. Most people could only do 2-3 push-ups.
Running is harsh too. For the mile run, the passing grade is 8 minutes (guys) and 10 minutes (girls). Same thing, almost nobody can make it on time.
Sadly, George W. Bush is the one who set those standards.

Should the standards of PE be a bit lower (or at least based on effort, not how physically strong you are) so that everybody can fulfill it?


PE is required for all 4 years here... No one gives a shit about PE though because it only counts for honor roll. It doesn't affect your GPA.... AND they grade partially on effort. Last year I took 9 weeks of swimming... and I am atrocious... yet I got an A. I must say, if only one or two students from your class of 50-something can do 15 pushups and run a mile in less than 8 or 10 minutes... that's pretty pathetic. We kinda get to pick what we do here... so I took 9 weeks of tennis, 9 weeks of volleyball, 9 weeks of weightlifting, and 9 weeks of cardiovascular games. It really ain't bad here... I think from our class of 40 something, roughly 5 kids couldn't meet those standards you mentioned.
 
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QUOTE(xxamandajanexx @ May 25 2006, 3:42 PM) *
I dont think PE should be a grade at all unless you want to take it. JUST LET US BE FAT!


i agree... it's my own personal business how physically fit i am!!!

not that my school's PE Class is really tough anyway... i still hate it.
 
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post Jul 12 2006, 11:15 AM
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Honestly imo its pretty sad that the majority of the student body in your school could do only 2-3 pushups. My last yr in hs, they started to give PE exams at the end of every semester. The min to pass was 20 pushups,36 situps and 1.5mile run in under 15:00. This was the min for the females, however I followed this min standards too since I was the only male in the class. XD Everyone passed.
 
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post Jul 12 2006, 11:23 AM
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I remember awhile the requirements for guys was 20 push ups..and had to run the mile, for boys, in 7:30 minutes. I passed with an A but yeah that was like in elementary school....
 
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post Jul 12 2006, 10:46 PM
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I think this would make a good debate topic. Don't worry, feel free to post still, but keep in mind your posts may be countered.

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post Jul 12 2006, 11:43 PM
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Fortunately, we only have to take P.E. in grade 9. Then it's optionable for 10, 11 and 12. All schools should do that..

And I do think it's ridiculous that they would have such high standards.. But it's not very hard to achieve it. At the end of grade 9, I did 40 push-ups and 100 sit ups, and we had to run 12 minutes and do about 5 laps of the field. The running part was a bitch..

But that's ok if it's in grade 9, because it doesn't matter for university. Only years 11 and 12 count in Canada.
 
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post Jul 13 2006, 12:54 AM
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Physical Education requirements aren't high enough.

Too much of America's youth would rather scarf down a double cheeseburger, drink Starbucks and sti on the computer for hours at a time rather than work out.

Disgusting.
 
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post Jul 13 2006, 02:54 AM
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^ you're right. The health problems in this country stem from grade school P.E. Whether people want to believe it or not. And frankly, the health condition in this country is deplorable. It all turns into a slippery slope.

People get out of shape >> people need health care >> people can't work >> the country loses money >> the next generation is screwed.
 
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post Jul 13 2006, 10:04 AM
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^ Sometimes it's not the person's fault for not being perfectly fit like everyone else. Some people have such busy schedules that they don't really have time to "get in shape".
 
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post Jul 13 2006, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Jul 13 2006, 1:54 AM) *
Physical Education requirements aren't high enough.

Too much of America's youth would rather scarf down a double cheeseburger, drink Starbucks and sti on the computer for hours at a time rather than work out.

Disgusting.

rawr. lol i still do that. :p however i can pass my PRT fine.
 
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post Jul 13 2006, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Jul 13 2006, 12:54 AM) *
Physical Education requirements aren't high enough.

Too much of America's youth would rather scarf down a double cheeseburger, drink Starbucks and sti on the computer for hours at a time rather than work out.

Disgusting.


You know, even when kids exercise to pass a class, they'll still go home and scarf down cheeseburgers. And if they don't do it now, they will eventually when they are out of school.

I think that physical education shouldn't be as strict as it is now. I watch my weight, I do sports, etc, but I have asthma and depression which both limit my stamina, so it's hard for me to run two miles in 18 minutes which is the requirement to get an A. I can barely even run one.
 
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post Jul 13 2006, 05:11 PM
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^ You don't see any problem with today's condition? Compare it to 50 years ago. I can guarantee you with great certainty that kids 50 years ago could handle twice as much on their PRT than kids nowadays.

Again, it's a slippery slope.
 
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post Jul 13 2006, 06:16 PM
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Those requirements seem a tad off? At my school you're expected to get around seven minutes in the mile if you're a guy and about nine if you're a girl. AND 2 OR 3 PUSHUPS? ARE YOU SERIOUS? That's sad. P.E. is definately an easy A.
 
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post Jul 14 2006, 10:45 PM
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QUOTE(forza @ Jul 13 2006, 2:54 AM) *
^ you're right. The health problems in this country stem from grade school P.E. Whether people want to believe it or not. And frankly, the health condition in this country is deplorable. It all turns into a slippery slope.

People get out of shape >> people need health care >> people can't work >> the country loses money >> the next generation is screwed.


Agreed.

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^ Sometimes it's not the person's fault for not being perfectly fit like everyone else. Some people have such busy schedules that they don't really have time to "get in shape".


There's a huge difference between being disgustingly out of shape and being perfectly fit but there's no excuse for people to be as fat as they are when they can control their physique.

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You know, even when kids exercise to pass a class, they'll still go home and scarf down cheeseburgers. And if they don't do it now, they will eventually when they are out of school.

I think that physical education shouldn't be as strict as it is now. I watch my weight, I do sports, etc, but I have asthma and depression which both limit my stamina, so it's hard for me to run two miles in 18 minutes which is the requirement to get an A. I can barely even run one.


Just because you are in good shape doesn't excuse the fact that we are the fattest country on the globe and each generation is fatter than the one before.

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^ You don't see any problem with today's condition? Compare it to 50 years ago. I can guarantee you with great certainty that kids 50 years ago could handle twice as much on their PRT than kids nowadays.

Again, it's a slippery slope.


Again; indeed.
 
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post Jul 15 2006, 08:01 AM
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QUOTE(BrandonSaunders @ Jul 14 2006, 11:45 PM) *
There's a huge difference between being disgustingly out of shape and being perfectly fit but there's no excuse for people to be as fat as they are when they can control their physique.


That's true, but I still don't think their grades should depend on it.
 
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yeah its gym class god
 
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post Jul 15 2006, 02:04 PM
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OMG! are you kidding me?! everyone passes gym at my school (unless we dont dress out) it is easy, the reasons the standards are how they are is because we live in an obese nation, when it comes down to it, americans are lazy, and I can easily say the same for myself, get out, be more active, and im sure gym will be easier. =)

also i really think you are making it up, the 2 out of 50, maybe 10 only 20 out of 50 dont get A's, or they arent trying cuz trying you should be able to get atleast 90%.

oh wait i just read the last half of your post. and yes atleast half of it should be effort, but also people should be responsible for their strength, but it should be for body type, such as a small frail girl shouldnt be accounted to be as strong as an athletic girl, ect.
 
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That is the most pathetic thing I've ever heard. If you can't live up to that simple curriculum, you deserve to fail, honestly.

As far as I know, no one in my class failed gym because of classwork. Some did because they cut a lot, though.

I say gym should be even more strict. I wouldn't like it either, but they should be more strict. Its becoming necessary. They need to be tougher, and get us to work harder. That way, kids won't grow up fat and disgustingly out of shape, and maybe we'd have a shot at a healthy future. I mean, holy crap. I am disgusted.
 
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post Jul 18 2006, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(peggysturr @ Oct 1 2005, 5:09 PM) *
PE is the most hated class in my school because we do lots of running and stretching. The standards of passing that class with an A is too high that only one or two students from the whole class of 50 something people could fulfill.
Push-ups are a killer to all students. Many student's strength aren't strong enough to do 15 push-ups to get an A. Most people could only do 2-3 push-ups.
Running is harsh too. For the mile run, the passing grade is 8 minutes (guys) and 10 minutes (girls). Same thing, almost nobody can make it on time.
Sadly, George W. Bush is the one who set those standards.

Should the standards of PE be a bit lower (or at least based on effort, not how physically strong you are) so that everybody can fulfill it?


An 8 minute mile is a reallly slow time. Most guys in my PE class can do it around 6 minutes. I think PE is the easiest class I've had.
 
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post Jul 22 2006, 05:26 PM
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PE is does not affect our GPA where i live. It is a good thing it doesn't because I failed PE 9 twice. Here we are required to only take 2 years of PE after that it is a choice.
 
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Seriously? Where I live, at least, I think PE requirements should be MORE strict. Students aren't even required to take it in order to graduate, in fact.

I agree with BrandonSaunders, PE standards aren't strict enough. There are too many health problems involved with lack of exercise (ask me for a source if you want, but I think that's a pretty obvious statement that I don't need to back up), and I think gym class is good for K-12 students.

Just deal with it and do your best, it could be one of the most important classes you have to take. Be glad your school requires that you take it.

So, if it's mandatory, how can they make sure students attend and participate? Give them a grade, just like in every other class. If they don't show up to class 90% of the time, they get an F. If they sit out almost every day because they're pretending to be sick, they fail. There are so many ridiculous things schools aren't allowed to do now because parents are so freaking protective of their children these days, but come on. Our poor little school children aren't gonna die if they're forced to run a couple laps because they were fifteen minutes late to gym class.

Just suck it up, when you're fifteen minutes late to work you get written up, and your mom can't get you a doctor's note to get you out of that.
 

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