Well, I wouldn't just go up to an unappealing person in dirty, ragged, worn clothes and say "hey how are you?" There's a certain limit, for me.

I mean, seriously. Would you like to wake up to a face like this?

^ Jesus Christ!

Isn't that the really creepy little "sideshow freak" from Bubble Boy?

idk, i googled "ugly man"

Not talking to a dirty, ragged person who stinks isn't an act of being shallow. It's what 99.9 % of the world population would do. Not talking to a fat person because of his/her size is shallow and that is what I consider 'Ignorance'. I don't think you should judge someone by their physical appearance.

Not true, you asswipe. Truth is, A lot of the world is in a dirty, ragged, stinky state. Back where I used to live, I would come across a lot of dirty, ragged, stinky people, yet I wouldn't hesitate to give them a helping hand and say hello. You're such a f**king bitch. I hope your children face a poverty-stricken future living in the slums, all dirty and smelly.

Sorry. I kinda just blew.

Hezron calm dowm. You know that someone who's never lived in places like the Philippines would never know.... D:

But you know Sandra, just because 99.9% of the population does it, doesn't mean it isn't ignorant neither is it not wrong.

Yeah, because you seem so noble...

I'd take offense at that if I actually thought of myself and my actions noble.

In this case, close-minded is a choice. You choose not to be willing to know more beyond the person's looks. if something looks really ugly and ... crappy, they will just pass by it.

Does that, therefore, mean shallow = selective and not ignorant?

Shouldn't this be in debate?

^ I was wondering the very same thing. Seems pretty debate-worthy.

You son of a bitch! My children will never be dirty and smelly like you. You shallow motherfcuking a-hole.

I guess you're part of that .01%

^ You forgot to add his family.



It isn't ignorance, it isn't wrong either. You see the picture at the top of the page, if I should see that man, I won't talk to him. He might be a beautiful person but the fact that he's dirty, he's got ugly teeth and he's scary is a turnoff.

That isn't ignorance.

Hahahaha! I may be shallow, but I don't have the audacity to f**k a mother unless she was the mother of my own children. And I have to apologize for earlier. My reply was uncalled for. Let me rephrase it in a more civil manner.
I'd like to point out that a large majority of the world population isn't exactly within the propriety of the higher industrialist nations. I mean, if you go anywhere with a less fortunate economy, you're bound to meet communities full of ragged, dirty people. To say that 99.9% of the world population ignores those people is a big understatement.

A shallow individual may or may not be ignorant. An ignorant individual may or may not be shallow. However, neither have a direct cause and effect relation. They may have a correlation, but that would just be coincidence. By definition, no. Shallowness isn't ignorance, and vice versa. In fact, I would imagine that a shallow person would be made even that more shallow by the reality of knowledge. If a person was physically ugly, yet their mind and personality were beautiful, and a person had perfect knowledge of this yet still rejected this person (even as a friend) merely on the basis of physical appearance, they would be the most purist form of shallow.

I'll have to stick with Hez on this: It's irrelevant.

Dude, I stressed my eyes just to read your post. Anyhoo, of course I exaggerated when I said 99.9 % but people who feel like that are in the majority. Maybe I'm thinking like this because I was brought up this way.

The picture that's on the top of this page prouves my point. If I should see that man IRL, I won't talk to him even if he was harmless, I'll freak out. I don't think that it should be defined as being shallow. People who were brought up in poor environnements are used to seeing people being dirty. That's a different issue, they are used to it.
I'm not used to seeing people badly dressed and dirty, it's going to be scary if I should see someone like that.

I think I would talk to him. Probably laugh and shake his hand. The guy is a superstar. He was really big on Howard Stern for quite some time. He's really awful, but he is infamous. I would talk to him, but for completly and utterly shallow reasons still. Interesting, huh?

^ Lol! Even if he's famous, hell no. I can't. I think I'll actually cry, I mean, he's scary.
Are you going to call me shallow for that?

Shallow
Main Entry: 1shal·low
Pronunciation: 'sha-(")lO
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English schalowe; probably akin to Old English sceald shallow -- more at SKELETON
3 a : penetrating only the easily or quickly perceived <shallow generalizations>

Sure. That's a shallow reaction.
But, here is the good news. You aren't generalizing his personality on his looks. You aren't saying he isn't a good person, or that he is a bad person. You're simply reacting to his unsightly appearance. Since you are simply penetrating that thin layer, you are commiting a shallow reaction, however, it isn't as morally objectionable as it could be.

I know what 'shallow' means. I think everyone's got their definition of the word because it's el crazyo.
For the love of God, a kid could faint seeing that guy!

I'm with Nate on this one. I'd talk to the man for a bit and shake his hand. It would be quite the fun thing to do. Sorry about the font. I didn't know it was that small.

^You're a guy, you're courageous. I'll cry, I swear that I'll cry. I'm 100 % sure.