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![]() cvchango ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Human Posts: 492 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 332,717 ![]() |
Should the United States get rid of their drinking age limit like many other countries?
I believe the United States should get rid of the drinking age. It is actually safer not to have a drinking age. When many people in the U.S. reach the drinking limit, they celebrate by getting dangerously wasted. Countries like France do not have such a big drinking problem like the U.S. because they have no drinking age. Not having a drinking age will allow children to drink. If it's legal to drink, young people will become more mature. They won't have the joy of being a badass drinking underage. In China, almost everyone drinks, and there are a few accidents. The drinking age in America cause hundred of thousands of people, celebrating being old enough to drink, getting rushed to emergency rooms every year. |
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my parents said i can drink at home when im 18 because then i wont get curious and go get drunk somewhere else so i dont know. anyway i think its ok maybe lower it to 18
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RaWr! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 603 Joined: Jan 2005 Member No: 90,404 ![]() |
i honestly believe they should lower it to at least 18. if im allowed to drive and join the military at 18, then i dont see why we cant drink at 18 too.
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![]() show me a garden thats bursting to life ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 12,303 Joined: Mar 2005 Member No: 115,987 ![]() |
^ Seriously. It used to be at 18. What the heck happened maaaannn?
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![]() tell me more. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Official Member Posts: 2,798 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 35,640 ![]() |
no way... gosh that would cause soo many more problems.
theres already enough people dead from drunk drivers. give kids alcohol now will just set them for to be an alcoholic. i personally dont think drinking alcoholic beverages should even be legal, but thats not gonna happen. more rape, other sexual abuses& car accidents happen when theres drinking involved. |
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![]() Sing to Me ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,825 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 10,808 ![]() |
no way... gosh that would cause soo many more problems. theres already enough people dead from drunk drivers. give kids alcohol now will just set them for to be an alcoholic. i personally dont think drinking alcoholic beverages should even be legal, but thats not gonna happen. more rape, other sexual abuses& car accidents happen when theres drinking involved. ^but that irresponsible attitude is because young adults want alcohol while it's illegal. when they do get their hands on it, they abuse it wayyy out of line. in europe, the driving age is much higher than the drinking age. it makes less sense than to have a lower driving age and a high drinking age. people can fool clerks or find friends to buy them alcohol. it's still attainable even though it's illegal. however, if the driving age was legal, there would be a drastic decrease in drunk driving accidents among teens and young adults because they can't drive! i rather hand someone irresponsible a bottle of beer than the keys to a car. |
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I think it should be lowerd to 18 but the people have to drink on there property and they ... have to have there parents "ok"..
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i believe so.
there was little kids who look at the media seeing people drinking. it inspired them to .. want to drink. they really really really want it ... but they cant have it it's against the law and they go crazy for it and become immatue and irrresponsible |
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![]() yan lin♥ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 14,129 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 13,627 ![]() |
what do you mean by "it's safer not to have a drinking age"? Everywhere else, the drinking age, at max is at 18. I feel that because of the legal drinking age in the States is 21, stereotypically, those who do drink underage get wasted whenever they drink. Because the drinking age is placed so high, and they drink "illegally", I personally think that they feel the need to drink as much as they can to get a kick out of it. Outside of the US, many learn to drink with moderation because we're used to drinking already. I think that the drinking age should be lowered, but not completely abolished.
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![]() daughter of sin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,653 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 386,134 ![]() |
What?
Places like France DO have a drinking age. Doesn't mean that they're so strict about it. Trust me, I've lived in Europe for almost 14 years. And teens will always do what is considered "bad". I don't know why it's such a big deal here.. People treat it like it's some holy thing. "OMG BEER!!! YEAH LET'S GO GET DRUNK!!! WOHOO!" And people in Europe are just like.. "Drinking? Meh.. okay." ... |
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I dont have a great deal of opinion on this issue.
i tend to think that the kids who ar egonna get wasted will get wasted regardless. the age here is 18, i got drunk for the first time when i was 15...? actually, aybe just before. well, whatever, the point ois there |
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QUOTE ^but that irresponsible attitude is because young adults want alcohol while it's illegal. when they do get their hands on it, they abuse it wayyy out of line. in europe, the driving age is much higher than the drinking age. it makes less sense than to have a lower driving age and a high drinking age. people can fool clerks or find friends to buy them alcohol. it's still attainable even though it's illegal. however, if the driving age was legal, there would be a drastic decrease in drunk driving accidents among teens and young adults because they can't drive! i rather hand someone irresponsible a bottle of beer than the keys to a car. the irresposible attitude is becuase they are too young. and the age has nothing to do with the fact that more rape and car accidents happen. when a girls drunk she could be raped and not even be able to fight back...it happens ALOT. People are alot wiser at 21 than 15.. and they know that even if they havent had a drink before, they still need to be careful. if some person is going crazy willing to break the law to get their hands on some alcohol then they arent even mature enoughto have it. they wouldnt know how much, where, when or what to do. its not a smart idea to give kids the privalege of drinking. aha im really opinionated on this topic, and alot of others.. |
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![]() cvchango ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Human Posts: 492 Joined: Dec 2005 Member No: 332,717 ![]() |
Places like France DO have a drinking age. Doesn't mean that they're so strict about it. Trust me, I've lived in Europe for almost 14 years. True but it isn't enforced. My cousin lives their, he's 14 and people his age drink all the time. Parents no that the drinking age is a joke and don't follow it. |
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is this where the beer is ?
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the irresposible attitude is becuase they are too young. and the age has nothing to do with the fact that more rape and car accidents happen. when a girls drunk she could be raped and not even be able to fight back...it happens ALOT. People are alot wiser at 21 than 15.. and they know that even if they havent had a drink before, they still need to be careful. if some person is going crazy willing to break the law to get their hands on some alcohol then they arent even mature enoughto have it. they wouldnt know how much, where, when or what to do. its not a smart idea to give kids the privalege of drinking. aha im really opinionated on this topic, and alot of others.. no, im sorry, but i dont think you're giving young people enough credit. people grow into alcohol responsibilty, like anything else. and if that can be done when peope;l are not around cars and driving, so much the better, all of my friends have been drinking for several years, and yea, some people got absolutely trashed at first, when we were 14/15, but now, we know our limits, adn we know when NOT to drink, i.e. around cars and in certain social situations. and, there was not a SINGLE drunk driving problem with any one in my school reported all year. so something must be right. and as for the liklihood that responsibility will increase with age, i would point you in the direction of britain's problem with binge rinking. people who are geting their livers destroyed by alcohol by their mid twenties, because of their drinking every night from teh time they are about 20. and furthermore, kids our age DO understand the risks associated with drinking. as far as rape is concerned, i know lots of girls who carry rape alarms, and there is little one can do to physically fight of a much strnger man who is sexually assaulting them REGARDLESS of alcohol. the same goes for drink spiking. my younger brothers friend had his drink spiked at a party not long ago, and there was no alcohol there at all at the time. in short, alcohol isnt evil, and it isnt responsible for all the ills with young people. it I sresponsible for some incedents, of course. but, if responsibility is learned young, it becoems more natural, as a whole. |
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![]() daughter of sin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,653 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 386,134 ![]() |
no, im sorry, but i dont think you're giving young people enough credit. people grow into alcohol responsibilty, like anything else. and if that can be done when peope;l are not around cars and driving, so much the better, all of my friends have been drinking for several years, and yea, some people got absolutely trashed at first, when we were 14/15, but now, we know our limits, adn we know when NOT to drink, i.e. around cars and in certain social situations. and, there was not a SINGLE drunk driving problem with any one in my school reported all year. so something must be right. and as for the liklihood that responsibility will increase with age, i would point you in the direction of britain's problem with binge rinking. people who are geting their livers destroyed by alcohol by their mid twenties, because of their drinking every night from teh time they are about 20. and furthermore, kids our age DO understand the risks associated with drinking. as far as rape is concerned, i know lots of girls who carry rape alarms, and there is little one can do to physically fight of a much strnger man who is sexually assaulting them REGARDLESS of alcohol. the same goes for drink spiking. my younger brothers friend had his drink spiked at a party not long ago, and there was no alcohol there at all at the time. in short, alcohol isnt evil, and it isnt responsible for all the ills with young people. it I sresponsible for some incedents, of course. but, if responsibility is learned young, it becoems more natural, as a whole. Oh please, if you say a teen can take more responsible actions than an adult, you're dead wrong. (I'm not saying that's always the case, but it's pretty much true) And sure, kids at that age do understand the "dangers" of drinking, but does that mean that many care? No. And by the way, when a girl has had a lot to drink, it is a LOT more likely that if someone tried to have sex with her, she wouldn't even try to fight it. When you're sober, you can really think more clearly :) |
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the irresposible attitude is becuase they are too young. and the age has nothing to do with the fact that more rape and car accidents happen. when a girls drunk she could be raped and not even be able to fight back...it happens ALOT. People are alot wiser at 21 than 15.. and they know that even if they havent had a drink before, they still need to be careful. if some person is going crazy willing to break the law to get their hands on some alcohol then they arent even mature enoughto have it. they wouldnt know how much, where, when or what to do. its not a smart idea to give kids the privalege of drinking. aha im really opinionated on this topic, and alot of others.. first of all, i also advocate a higher driving age. some teenagers can kill someone with a car without even being drunk. people are wiser at 21 than 15? no, when it comes to alcohol and driving, anyone at any age can make the same mistake. also, teenagers tend to get wasted and then have large period of time before drinking again because of the trouble they have to go through. in America, a case came out that 20 somethings are more likely to do more damage to themselves because they can drink more frequently but then when they do, they drink a lot and then drink a little then drink till they puke. once again, i rather give a stupid person a large amount of alcohol than a car. |
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does that include to france? |
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my cousins and uncles nd shit always press me to drink and im 14 lol chinese win? chinese ppl usually don't have drinking problems..at least as far as im concerned
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QUOTE i honestly believe they should lower it to at least 18. if im allowed to drive and join the military at 18, then i dont see why we cant drink at 18 too. yeah i mean WTF why wait 3 more years |
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no, im sorry, but i dont think you're giving young people enough credit. people grow into alcohol responsibilty, like anything else. and if that can be done when peope;l are not around cars and driving, so much the better, all of my friends have been drinking for several years, and yea, some people got absolutely trashed at first, when we were 14/15, but now, we know our limits, adn we know when NOT to drink, i.e. around cars and in certain social situations. and, there was not a SINGLE drunk driving problem with any one in my school reported all year. so something must be right. and as for the liklihood that responsibility will increase with age, i would point you in the direction of britain's problem with binge rinking. people who are geting their livers destroyed by alcohol by their mid twenties, because of their drinking every night from teh time they are about 20. and furthermore, kids our age DO understand the risks associated with drinking. as far as rape is concerned, i know lots of girls who carry rape alarms, and there is little one can do to physically fight of a much strnger man who is sexually assaulting them REGARDLESS of alcohol. the same goes for drink spiking. my younger brothers friend had his drink spiked at a party not long ago, and there was no alcohol there at all at the time. in short, alcohol isnt evil, and it isnt responsible for all the ills with young people. it I sresponsible for some incedents, of course. but, if responsibility is learned young, it becoems more natural, as a whole. well then whats the diff... just wait to get "trashed" when your 21 and learn your limits then, when your mistake is your consequence, not your parents. yea, alcohol isnt evil. but too much of it is..its responsible for alot of tragedies that happen everyday. |
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^ im sorry, but i am responsible for my own actions. to suggest that my mistakes are my parent's problem alone is silly. and remarkably naive.
QUOTE Oh please, if you say a teen can take more responsible actions than an adult, you're dead wrong. (I'm not saying that's always the case, but it's pretty much true) And sure, kids at that age do understand the "dangers" of drinking, but does that mean that many care? No. my point was that they can take AS responsible actions as many adults do. there is no magical door which means you are suddenly 'responsible' at twenty one, as opposed to 16. and your right. most teens i know DONT care about alcohol poisoning or rape, or being killed or killing while drunk driving. my bad. |
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![]() daughter of sin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,653 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 386,134 ![]() |
^ im sorry, but i am responsible for my own actions. to suggest that my mistakes are my parent's problem alone is silly. and remarkably naive. my point was that they can take AS responsible actions as many adults do. there is no magical door which means you are suddenly 'responsible' at twenty one, as opposed to 16. and your right. most teens i know DONT care about alcohol poisoning or rape, or being killed or killing while drunk driving. my bad. I'm not saying there aren't exceptions.. of course there are. But you've got to admit that there's a greater chance of a 21-year-old being more sensible than a 15/16-year-old. And of course everyone cares about "alcohol poisoning or rape, or being killed or killing while drunk driving." But most people think "Nah, it won't happen to me", and drink anyway. That's what I meant by not caring :) Truth is, it does happen.. and you never know. |
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I've always liked the way Germans do it. At 14, you can drink at home or in public as long as your parents say it's ok. At 16 you can drink soft liquor like beer and wine and at 18 you can drink whatever the hell you want.
I think America should do it that way. They're crime rate and problems due to alcohol is very very very low. And teens will always do what is considered "bad". I don't know why it's such a big deal here.. People treat it like it's some holy thing. "OMG BEER!!! YEAH LET'S GO GET DRUNK!!! WOHOO!" And people in Europe are just like.. "Drinking? Meh.. okay." ... Man, sounds boring. I'm glad I don't live there. Funny but I know quite a few people in Scotland and Germany and they're more crazy about getting drunk then I've ever seen anyone get in America. |
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