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*kryogenix* |
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Whether it's cowardly or not isn't relevant at all... And there's plenty of cases in which a C-section is not an option. My aunt had to kill her baby during labor so she wouldn't die. I'm not exactly sure why, but I know that's what happened. It was a big family issue. She couldn't have any more kids afterwards ever. Replace the word wrong with cowardly. Is it wrong to let someone else die in your place? I will not make any judgements about your aunt's case since I don't know any details at all. In any case, I still believe that abortion in all cases is wrong, but I think what senor acid posted would be a good step in the right direction and a feasible goal to work towards in future legislative discussions. I think that if we completely banned abortions all of a sudden, people would react violently. |
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![]() Quand j'étais jeune... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 ![]() |
[size=1]No, I don't think that at all...the exact opposite, actually. People have said that to me... I'm for keeping abortion legal... [size] Are you capable of reading? Taylor`` Aaaaah, no, I didn't know who you quoted.. so I quoted that.. Hahahah.. who did you quote? (I hate repetition) Taylor`` And you asked if I was "capable of reading"... hahaha. Ah, the irony. It doesn't matter who she quoted, she said that people told her those things throughout the thread, NOT that she supported that line of argument. My "Whaaattt?" was to emphasize the fact that you didn't understand what you quoted because you were trying to refute someone who was pro-choice. To answer your question, yes, Ms. Taylor, I know how to read just fine, though it should be obvious now right? ![]() |
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In any case, I still believe that abortion in all cases is wrong, but I think what senor acid posted would be a good step in the right direction and a feasible goal to work towards in future legislative discussions. I think that if we completely banned abortions all of a sudden, people would react violently. you would agree on forced abortions? |
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![]() banana ham! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 661 Joined: Sep 2005 Member No: 227,050 ![]() |
I`m for abortion. Not that I would do it, but people have the rights to do what they wish. They must have a reason why they want abortion, and I think we need to respect that. Abortion is wrong no doubts, but we still need to respect people`s decisions. Right?
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![]() daughter of sin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,653 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 386,134 ![]() |
It doesn't matter who she quoted, she said that people told her those things throughout the thread, NOT that she supported that line of argument. My "Whaaattt?" was to emphasize the fact that you didn't understand what you quoted because you were trying to refute someone who was pro-choice. Yeah, yeah, I didn't read it properly, oh what a stupid little girl I am. @ Taylor, i dont think you should be that mean HAHA, I'm not mean, I'm just being my usual self. Taylor`` |
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![]() ||Leon/Silent W[hisper]|| Anime Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 152 Joined: Oct 2005 Member No: 257,387 ![]() |
I think abortion is just plain wrong.Because if you have one,then you take away your childs life.Which is really sad,because they should have the right to be brought into this world and to live its life.Like if an 18 year old girl cry's because her bf got her pregnant and now she wants an abortion,NO!why do that,if your going to cry,then next time consider using a condom.But taking a childs life is just.....
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![]() daughter of sin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,653 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 386,134 ![]() |
I was kind of expecting an apology, but I guess I'll just have to get over this one on my own. Get over what? That wasn't an insult :) Sorry, but I get a little hot-headed over issues like this one. Taylor`` I think abortion is just plain wrong.Because if you have one,then you take away your childs life.Which is really sad,because they should have the right to be brought into this world and to live its life.Like if an 18 year old girl cry's because her bf got her pregnant and now she wants an abortion,NO!why do that,if your going to cry,then next time consider using a condom.But taking a childs life is just..... ![]() Um. Condoms break. Pills don't always work. Even if you use both, you're still not 100% safe. So don't say "Next time consider using a condom", because some people use condoms AND birth control pills and still get pregnat. Taylor`` |
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QUOTE Um. Condoms break. Pills don't always work. Even if you use both, you're still not 100% safe. So don't say "Next time consider using a condom", because some people use condoms AND birth control pills and still get pregnat. Even though that is true,that doesnt matter.Getting pregnant is one thing but taking a childs life is just ridiculous because you can always give it up for adoption,besides killing it.Or dont have sex at all.But i can understand if the girl was raped,thats something really different if she becomes pregnant then but still its stupid because they some say its not giving up their baby but what,is it easy to just kill it?thats just bs to me. |
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No, I don't agree with abortions whatsoever. why not? in cases of rape, incest, or danger to the mothers life, simply require abortions. in all other cases, prohibit them. it wouldn't allow for casual abortions then. and i think we'll throw in babies out of wedlock. require abortions for those too. |
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![]() daughter of sin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,653 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 386,134 ![]() |
Even though that is true,that doesnt matter.Getting pregnant is one thing but taking a childs life is just ridiculous because you can always give it up for adoption,besides killing it.Or dont have sex at all.But i can understand if the girl was raped,thats something really different if she becomes pregnant then but still its stupid because they some say its not giving up their baby but what,is it easy to just kill it?thats just bs to me. It's a life that the girl MADE. So I think she has a choice whether she wants to give it up or not. It's not for you to say. "Even thought that's true, it doesn't matter"? I don't think so. It does matter. "Don't have sex at all"? Well, newsflash.. people do have sex. It's not something that they'll stop doing. And mistakes do happen. "But i can understand if the girl was raped,thats something really different if she becomes pregnant then but still its stupid because they some say its not giving up their baby". Getting raped and having an abortion is stupid? THAT's stupid. If I were in that situation, there's no chance in hell that I'd keep the baby. Taylor`` |
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I think that abortions are completly wrong. Just think you might be killing the next president or the next person to discover a cure for some deadly desciese..Please be against abortion. These poor infants need a chance to live life and experience all the wonderful things it can bring. I mean if you don't want to have to take care of it just put it up for adoption. It's better than not giving it a chance to live at all. Right?
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I think that abortions are completly wrong. Just think you might be killing the next president or the next person to discover a cure for some deadly desciese..Please be against abortion. These poor infants need a chance to live life and experience all the wonderful things it can bring. I mean if you don't want to have to take care of it just put it up for adoption. It's better than not giving it a chance to live at all. Right? I would like to see how you would deal with being pregnat at 15. Taylor`` |
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Honestly I know for a fact I would have the child because I am a Christian and to me abortion is SIN. I would be afraid of going to hell if I did not have the child.
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well, the chances are better that you're killing the next timothy mcvay or the next unibomber.
but; i do appreciate your stance. as long as you don't try to force people to not get abortions, it's fine by me. convince them all you like, as long as they get the final decision. |
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![]() daughter of sin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,653 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 386,134 ![]() |
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Thanks for understanding.
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![]() ||Leon/Silent W[hisper]|| Anime Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 152 Joined: Oct 2005 Member No: 257,387 ![]() |
It's a life that the girl MADE. So I think she has a choice whether she wants to give it up or not. It's not for you to say. "Even thought that's true, it doesn't matter"? I don't think so. It does matter. "Don't have sex at all"? Well, newsflash.. people do have sex. It's not something that they'll stop doing. And mistakes do happen. "But i can understand if the girl was raped,thats something really different if she becomes pregnant then but still its stupid because they some say its not giving up their baby". Getting raped and having an abortion is stupid? THAT's stupid. If I were in that situation, there's no chance in hell that I'd keep the baby. Taylor`` Well thats you,you dont want a child to "ruin your life"But why throw a baby's life away EVEN IF YOU WERE RAPED.YOU KNOW HOW STUPID THAT SOUNDS TO ME RIGHT NOW!thing like this just piss me off....thats just f**king wrong.And i know people have sex but there is also a thing called abstonince (cant spell sorry)Where you just purify your self or something and dont have sex at all. -But thats just plain f**ked up if you just want to throw your baby's life away for those damn stupid a$$ reasons.KEEP THE BABY,JUST GIVE IT UP FOR ADOPTION.Why kill it when it should be allowed to breath like we do today.Or see what we see today?!thats just really wrong..abortion is a stupid thing.Regardless whether its not for me to say because the girl made that life.But it takes a man to bring that baby life inside her too.So therefor one should have a saying.Really and who ever puts death for their baby without no thought of not killing it i say should slit their own throat.You the good things for you kid first than to decide "oh ima just kill the damn thing with an abortion"BS i say BS |
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![]() daughter of sin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,653 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 386,134 ![]() |
Well thats you,you dont want a child to "ruin your life"But why throw a baby's life away EVEN IF YOU WERE RAPED.YOU KNOW HOW STUPID THAT SOUNDS TO ME RIGHT NOW!thing like this just piss me off....thats just f**king wrong.And i know people have sex but there is also a thing called abstonince (cant spell sorry)Where you just purify your self or something and dont have sex at all. -But thats just plain f**ked up if you just want to throw your baby's life away for those damn stupid a$$ reasons.KEEP THE BABY,JUST GIVE IT UP FOR ADOPTION.Why kill it when it should be allowed to breath like we do today.Or see what we see today?!thats just really wrong..abortion is a stupid thing. "And i know people have sex but there is also a thing called abstonince (cant spell sorry)Where you just purify your self or something and dont have sex at all." Sorry, but I doubt many people would do that :) It's a personal choice. Who are you to tell someone to do that if they don't want children? Sex is too good for some people. "But why throw a baby's life away EVEN IF YOU WERE RAPED." I would love to see how you would deal with being raped. And I'd love to see how you'd handle being a dad at 15. Or however old you are. You're not a woman, so you wouldn't understand. You don't have to carry the baby, do you, smartass? Taylor`` |
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calm down there.
let's try again, but slower now. what exactly is your problem with other people having abortions? |
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![]() ||Leon/Silent W[hisper]|| Anime Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 152 Joined: Oct 2005 Member No: 257,387 ![]() |
"And i know people have sex but there is also a thing called abstonince (cant spell sorry)Where you just purify your self or something and dont have sex at all." Sorry, but I doubt many people would do that :) It's a personal choice. Who are you to tell someone to do that if they don't want children? Sex is too good for some people. "But why throw a baby's life away EVEN IF YOU WERE RAPED." I would love to see how you would deal with being raped. And I'd love to see how you'd handle being a dad at 15. Or however old you are. You're not a woman, so you wouldn't understand. You don't have to carry the baby, do you, smartass? Taylor`` "I would love to see how you would deal with being raped. And I'd love to see how you'd handle being a dad at 15. Or however old you are." Im not even going to answer that.and im the smart ass?yeah ok w/e...and the point is not a woman having to carry the baby its the matter of the fact is killing the baby.But what ever,i said what i had to say in my defense. ![]() "calm down there. let's try again, but slower now. what exactly is your problem with other people having abortions?" Yeah sorry its just that its just a really sad thing to kill a baby and take its life away.And not only that but i almost lost my little sister because she was burned badly from boiling water.And i always see those stupid commericials of a 17 year old girl crying because she didnt have safe sex and turned out pregnant and then she wanted an abortion,THATS NOT FAIR.Think about the child first.Thats my problem with other peopel having abortions.It may not be my child but really they should consider something else before having an abortion.Some make it seem so damn easy to just go and have an abortion but tell me this which is worse,killing your baby,or givign it up for adoption?I see its worse to kill it.Well thats my opinion to it and yeah everyone is entitled to their own opinion.I just cant stand the fact that STUPID girls ahem not gonna mention no names,really actually act like they dont care wth happens to the baby as long as they dont have it so it wont ruin their lives when they are actually to me living in fear of what might happen after.If they would be able to manage taking care of the baby,being there for it e.t.c thats my problem. |
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Killing a baby is heartless. If you can't handle a baby, you should give it up for adoption, or not have sex! Otherwise, use protection, and be careful.
Getting raped is scary, yeah, but why should the baby suffer, too? Every life is important. |
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do you know you can transplant an embryo?
so how about this. embryo transpants. the embryo is removed, pretty much intact. if some pro-life woman steps forward, then it's implanted in her. if no one does, then the baby dies. you and i both know how many embryos are going to be implanted. and it's not going to be much. why? it's easy to tell someone else to do something, but much harder to do it yourself. i wonder how many pro lifers here have the option for having sex. i'm not saying that you've though about it. i mean, you have a boyfriend/girlfriend, and you two have discussed it, and have decided to practice abstinance. and i want to know how long you two have been practicing it. anybody? abstinence is like smokey the bear. sounds good. stops the bad stuff (sex, forest fires). but when it finally happens, which it does in both cases, it's much worse. |
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