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Sorry did you read my whole post Of course there are good artists, specific artists, such as mos def and little brother, but as far as a movement, as far as whats being PUT OUT, there is almost nothing thanks. now stfu. tard. heh... yes i DID read your whole post but i just dont think u can properly word what yur tryin to say cuz my response still correlates to wat u wrote... if u mean wats PUT OUT and as far as a movement to be what u see on MTV and BET then i guess i would have to agree with u, but rap/hip hop is far more than that and if u think that wat u see on video channels even closely represents the genre as a whole yur a f**kin idiot... regardless of if its on TV or not good, lesser-known rap is still constantly bein PUT OUT so this is where i fail to see the validity of yur point. |
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I also think lowly of the genre for a different reason. Like you've said, sillakilla, under-the-radar rappers don't get enough (if any at all) airtime on big networks like MTV/VH1 and are hardly aired on public radio. I think I know why -- they either aren't good or don't, as you phrased it, talk about "smoking crack and f**king bitches." Personally, I think that says a lot about the value system when it comes to the hip hop genre in that you have to make an ass of yourself, be a womanizer and a drug dealer in order to sell records (most of the time, that is).
Now don't take this the wrong way, other genres of music are falling into a conformity mold themselves, but it's more evident in rap than anywhere else, and you can't argue that. |
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B-rex ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 149 Joined: Apr 2005 Member No: 128,689 ![]() |
Another big problem I have with it, is the whole mood and tone of the whole rap genre.
Somehow, shooting someone is considered "cool" in the rap genre. Somehow, "raping a bitch" is considered cool. Somehow, the ammount of f**king jewlery in your mouth, makes you cool. It's just so limited and fake, the majority of the rappers out there either rap about clubbing/dancing/bitches, or, if they want to act like they're real "deep", they rap about how hard it is in the ghetto, and how "the white man its keeping them down" Look, I used to live in one of the worst f**king neigborhoods in Chicago, its NOT AS BAD as they make it out to be. They're exploiting this idea that somehow you have to sell crack just to make a living. Bullshit. They're just too lazy to go out and get a job. From what I've seen, rap gives these kids some stupid sense of arrogance, and power over other people. I mean, have you seen these "gangster" kids waddling around school? If you step on their f**king shoes, they will FIGHT YOU. What kind of stupid bullshit is that. They get that whole attitude from the music they listen to. QUOTE heh... yes i DID read your whole post but i just dont think u can properly word what yur tryin to say cuz my response still correlates to wat u wrote... if u mean wats PUT OUT and as far as a movement to be what u see on MTV and BET then i guess i would have to agree with u, but rap/hip hop is far more than that and if u think that wat u see on video channels even closely represents the genre as a whole yur a f**kin idiot... regardless of if its on TV or not good, lesser-known rap is still constantly bein PUT OUT so this is where i fail to see the validity of yur point. You know, its hard to take you seriously when you try and use big words like correlate and validity, yet you still can't spell out "yur", or "wat". |
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listen to immortal technique, listen to his lyrics. that is rap.
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hiphop itself is supposed to signify how far we've come through hard times how we've gone from slave music, to something that every damn race can jam too it's supposed to be our pride our way of saying we made it how the hell are we showing that with songs that have no significance whatsoever? you.... know i was joking right? ![]() |
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Another big problem I have with it, is the whole mood and tone of the whole rap genre. Somehow, shooting someone is considered "cool" in the rap genre. Somehow, "raping a bitch" is considered cool. Somehow, the ammount of f**king jewlery in your mouth, makes you cool. It's just so limited and fake, the majority of the rappers out there either rap about clubbing/dancing/bitches, or, if they want to act like they're real "deep", they rap about how hard it is in the ghetto, and how "the white man its keeping them down" Look, I used to live in one of the worst f**king neigborhoods in Chicago, its NOT AS BAD as they make it out to be. They're exploiting this idea that somehow you have to sell crack just to make a living. Bullshit. They're just too lazy to go out and get a job. From what I've seen, rap gives these kids some stupid sense of arrogance, and power over other people. I mean, have you seen these "gangster" kids waddling around school? If you step on their f**king shoes, they will FIGHT YOU. What kind of stupid bullshit is that. They get that whole attitude from the music they listen to. You know, its hard to take you seriously when you try and use big words like correlate and validity, yet you still can't spell out "yur", or "wat". yeah cuz i don't know how to spell your or what... oops i mean because. its called slang fag sorry i dont type proper english all the time |
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![]() Cockadoodledoo Mother Fcuka!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,438 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 296,088 ![]() |
ha ok. Let me speak my peace on this since, I rap/sing. I honestly believe that out of every genre of music with the exception of country, hip-hop today is the most pathetic excuse for music EVER It's just so damn frail I get tired of listening to it, and even though I try not to contribute to the repetative garbage, I get tired of participating in a genre thats just so corny For the first time in the history of america, there is no music that black people can be proud of None Of course there are good artists, specific artists, such as mos def and little brother, but as far as a movement, as far as whats being PUT OUT, there is almost nothing we've lost our soul, our consciousness, our meaning, our essence everything that went into the forms of music that we cultivated has been lost from the deep significance of slave spirituals, to the blues, the jazz, to rock n roll, to reggae, to early hiphop it's all gone with the bullshit that y'all support today when hiphop first started, up to about a decade ago, it was a music that we could hold for ourselves,and be PROUD of when outsiders tried to step on it, we could be proud of it, and say, hey, this is hip-hop, we love it, and its our message, its our cry for help, its all we have, its us telling you how we live, and the struggles we go through when critics tried to censor hip-hop, we could stand up and defend it we could say, you can't censor hip-hop, yeah the messages are rough, yeah the messages are gritty, but its just the built up pain from the harsh urban life style, its just what goes on in the streets, and we have to be heard too people started to respect hip-hop as an art form because even though it was hard, it was still productive in the message and as an outlet but now, what do we have? Laffy Taffy f**king Laffy Taffy how the hell do i defend Laffy Taffy? or the other hundreds of songs like it? how do i explain to somebody the significance of an art form where the most popular song is Laffy Taffy? you can't but on some real sh*t, i've been on a retreat from rap for a couple weeks, going onto a month actually, only rapper I listen too is myself. ur lost on this one... im glad that u can see the flaws in commercial rap but calling it dead as a whole is an overstatement. if ur immersed in the culture and the whole hip-hop scene (and you shud b if ur an aspiring rapper) than u know that all has not been lost with all these guys setting the u-ground scene on fire!! not to mention the other genres of terrible music thats being put out and commercialized. In rock, for example, it seems like every other band sells it's soul to be the next big thing and lets go of the music that made them popular in the first place. btw all u talkin about how IT iz so sik are stupid....hes not even in the top 20 best rappers out there. O, and MF Doom is more commercial then Immortal Technique BY FAR!! QUOTE Sorry did you read my whole post Of course there are good artists, specific artists, such as mos def and little brother, but as far as a movement, as far as whats being PUT OUT, there is almost nothing thanks. now stfu. tard. Unfortunately, as far as whats being put out, there is almost nothing.....if ur not big in hip-hop.... there [b]is still[b/][i] a rap movement, it has just changed it s outlook. Look online, go to a local battle, turn of ur radio and go immerse urself in the [i]real hip-hop culture instead of talking all this trash. |
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![]() Ummm... I can't think of anything creative to put here ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Human Posts: 410 Joined: Mar 2005 Member No: 118,965 ![]() |
I find it funny that a whole bunch of people are hating on Rap/Hip-Hop. The most I'm hearing people say is that they hate rap for its explicit lyrics. You only hear explicit words on unedited songs. You can only get unedited songs if you buy them or download them. So that shouldn't be a problem for those who hate rap. You can't here bad language in a genre you hate unless you listen to that genre. I also read that you hear rap on the radio with cuss words. Well, the radio edits those words. You can probably still tell what the word when its bleeped out. But if you can tell, its probably because you use those words and you know what they are and mean.
I would go into more detail but class is almost over. |
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The integrity of any song is compromised when every half second there's a brief stop in the music. |
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I hate the fact girls are forced to shake their booties all over the camera.
Disgusting lyrics. Cussing. Violence. Stupidest music videos. Wrong to women. |
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![]() Cockadoodledoo Mother Fcuka!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,438 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 296,088 ![]() |
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I hate the fact girls are forced to shake their booties all over the camera. Disgusting lyrics. Cussing. Violence. Stupidest music videos. Wrong to women. how do u figure girls are forced to shake thier booties? no one is forcing them to do sh*t they do it to make money or cuz they like it. you guys dont get it. all rap music is not like that. if u have a problem with all that sh*t, which i can definitely understand, then say u dont like rap that talks about that... its a shame seein everyone make the same, stupid, irrational, and very generalized comments. i could listen to rap all day and not come across any of that sh*t if i listened to the right stuff. all the sh*t u guys keep listing is the sh*t on tv get ya mind right. |
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Hmm i think its just the messages it send i mean i listen to rap all the time and i mean i do enjoy listening to ceratin songs but i mean some songs really make me tick i dont think anyone has the right to call women bitches and hoes.... its just not right...
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ok... first lets get all the cliche`s out the way.... - too much violence - disrespects women -cusses too much - videos have too much ass-shaking but this doesnt apply to all rap so im just wondering - what do ppl really have against rap music? Okay,I'mma do this. just reply to the first post,because that's what i feel like doing. When somebody doesn't like a genre of music,they look for all the bad in it,and totally disregard the good.Personally,I dislike rap.To the point of actually hating it.I'm more of a hardcore kid,but whatever.Rap music is extremeley vulgar,in my point of veiw,but that's on a stereotypical basis.I don't have very much room to talk,because rock is just as bad,if not worse.I also think they have NO talent,because just anybody could go up and make some stupid rhyme that has absolutely no other point than to express how cool their "GRILLZ" look,or how awesome their shoes are(air force ones,nelly)or how "FINE"a chick with a huge ass is.It's all about opinions in this case;All about what sounds good to you.I like really loud,blast your ears off,sweet guitar solos,scream your head off music,while some people might like.....however you would descirbe rap(I'd do it,really,but it'd come out differently than intended)so this wouldn't be much of an arguement for me. it's got no fact to back it up,because every other genre of music has bad sh*t all in it,and really it's based purely on opinion. people are gonna like what music they like, we need to stop being so mother f**king retarded and just accept it,goddamnit. |
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^seriously
I'm a hardcore emo lover kiddie. hah. I just dislike rap and country music they give me a headache although i can listen to powerpop. I love some powerpop. But Its a matter of how you look at rap music. I mean some people are ehm.. racist and just dislike it because of that. although yes theres white people but their just as bad. [I meant musicly talented there] blahhh I can't type everything else thats in my head. |
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I hate the fact girls are forced to shake their booties all over the camera. Disgusting lyrics. Cussing. Violence. Stupidest music videos. Wrong to women. No one forces girls to shake anything on videos. They get paid to dance like that, and there are some that do it for free if the rapper is famous enough. They have a free will. |
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f**k it rap music has prolly influenced your favorite artist so get over yourselves
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![]() oink ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,099 Joined: Aug 2004 Member No: 41,836 ![]() |
i like rap but sometimes there lyrics make me cringe.
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![]() Jake - The Unholy Trinity / Premiscuous Poeteer. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,272 Joined: May 2006 Member No: 411,316 ![]() |
It kills brain cells. And it talks about how much money they make and how good they have it, also they make alot of songs about their 24'' rims. Congratulations. Good for them. Most people I ask say they like rap because of the beat. I think it was 50 Cent, or Jay-Z that was interviewed and he claims that the lyrics of his songs made no sense. Rap sucks.
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i don't like black people music. (or country).
i mean, it's not that i say "a black guy sings this, i don't like it." i just listen to what i like and inevitablly, when people ask me what music i like, they come to the conclusion that i don't like black people music. so that's why i don't like rap. |
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![]() meow meow meow ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 149 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,364 ![]() |
Yes I can understand why people do not like rap, it's not "music" they say... BUT I LOVE IT. The beats get me dancing, and they lyrics go hard. But now rap is changing,yeah disrespecting women, I hate that too. But old school is fine.
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i don't like black people music. (or country). i mean, it's not that i say "a black guy sings this, i don't like it." i just listen to what i like and inevitablly, when people ask me what music i like, they come to the conclusion that i don't like black people music. so that's why i don't like rap. Exactly. Country isn't black music! I don't like Asian music either! So sue me. I think it's crap when people say "You don't like black people music". WTF? Rap/hip hop are music genres for the love of God. I hate rap. I hate 50 cent and whomever. I just can't stand him calling WOMEN ho's or whores. The only rap song I listen to is "when I'm gone" by Eminem. Why? It relates to me, my life, every single word in that song relates to me. I just can't relate to 50 cent's songs, I just can't. QUOTE All a nigga really need is a lil bit, not a lot baby girl just a lil bit.. we can head to the crib in a lil bit.. I can show you how I live in a lil bit, I wanna unbutton your pants just a lil bit, take 'em off pull em down just a lil bit, get to kissin' and touchin' a lil bit... get to lickin', a lil bit... Can someone please explain that? If I should hear my child saying "I wanna unbutton your pants just a lil bit", I'm going to KICK HIS ASS. I don't know what to say SillaKilla, I'm sorry but most Rap songs are crap. |
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![]() meow meow meow ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 149 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,364 ![]() |
Can't understand what he's saying ROFL...
He wants the girl to have sex with him. And rap isnt just " black people music" you have asians. whites, and people all over the world who listen to it |
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It's not that I don't like the style of the music- I love the beats of the music. It's just that a lot of the lyrics demoralize women and make them all seem like.. scum. I'm not generalizing that all rap is like that, but I feel it draws a stereotype that all girls are like that.
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